The Black Prism: Chapters 79-95 and Final Thoughts

[Orbit]

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[Lorell]

So after re-reading Black Prism I finally realized a few things:

1. Zymmun (Karris and the real Gavin's son) really did stab Gavin/Dazen with the Blinding Knife but as it wasn't for a long period of time it took away his blue drafting ability.
2. General Danivis knew about Kip and that's why he stayed in Rekton but my question is how did he know that Kip was Gavin's bastard but Gavin/Dazen didn't?

[Joanna]

And does he know that Lina was raped? How can he?

[Niamh]

I'm not sure about how Danavis found out about kip was he living in Rekton when he found him or was he there because of kip?
If he stayed for kip then I would think he must have had spies in Gavin's camp and figured it out
If he was already living in Rekton then maybe he put the facts together from hearing Lina and the people in the village talking

[Lorell]

I like your idea about having spies in the real Gavin's camp because from how I re-read the book and understood it, it seemed as though no-one knew who Kip's father was. So I doubt it was the talk of the town but who really knows!?

[Daniel]

I was first a bit scared for a read-along because the books are so big. But after a week I was done with BP. I love how BW can do that! It really is a page turner.

For a book called 'Lightbringer' it doens't talk much about the lightbringer. We know nothing. what do you guys think?

[Lorell]

I agree, I have about 5 chapters left in the Blinding Knife!

The 'Lightbringer' is mentioned a little more in the 2nd book but I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't read/re-read the book but I believe that Kip is the lightbringer and I hope that BW expands on who/what this person is and what their purpose will be.

I have a lot more question now that I've re-read both books but I will post them on the thread for Blinding Knife.

[Daniel]

Lorell wrote: "I agree, I have about 5 chapters left in the Blinding Knife!

The 'Lightbringer' is mentioned a little more in the 2nd book but I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't read/re-read the book..."

In BK Kip is being pointed out to being the lightbringer (alot), but we still don't know much about it. What should it mean?

[Timothy]

The MICE quotient is a way of analyzing how important Milieu/Setting, a big Idea, Characters, and a big Event are to a book. What do you think are the most important elements of the Lightbringer series?

The setting is interesting, but I don't think it is the main element, since more time is spend describing other things.

There is no big idea or question, no mystery to be solved.

I think the last two, characters and a big event, are where the focus is. Most of the words are put to developing the main characters, and the world is being revolutionized by a big event.

[Niamh]

Just to add to Joshua's comment I think you could say that the big question in this book is how do we know when we are on the right path. A lot of the characters, liv, Gavin, the colour prince and more all think they are doing the right thing but they have their doubts.

It highlights how hard life decisions can be and how different people face different situations. Also I think the setting is very important to the plot. The whole purpose of the prism is essentially to look after the satrapies. If they stopped fighting he would be irrelevant and have very little power ( politically )

The destruction of tyrea has also led to the rise of the colour prince and also affected the lives of some characters which in turn affects their decisions within their world

That's my view anyway :)

[Timothy]

Yes, Setting is definitely important. I said that badly. What I meant was that the Setting is used to bolster the Characters and Events. It isn't an end in itself.

[Jael]

So I finished re-reading The Black Prism a few days back and I suddenly got reminded that there was one unresolved question (or at least I think it was unresolved) that someone asked in the FB fan club a few years back:
Why does Dazen (the older brother) need to a yellow source to draft yellow?
If the blue light wasn't a perfect blue, couldn't he just split it? I remember the discussion went somewhere along the lines of "maybe you need to have a perfect white light source to split light" but really, it wasn't conclusive.

Regarding the lightbringer, I really, really hope that Kip is the lightbringer, but this is Brent Weeks we're talking about. Kip? The Lightbringer? A little too obvious, no? I have a bad feeling it's going to turn out to be Zymun or someone just as unlikely. I guess the bottom line is that as long as we don't get another deus ex machina like Logan's tattoo in NAT, I'm fine with anyone being the Lightbringer. In fact, I'm fine even if there is no lightbringer. Meh.

Also, I forgot how much I liked High Luxlord Black. Hope we see more of that guy, though I guess that's highly unlikely.

[Barry]

What if the lightbringer.was supposed to.be an evil.character.and it.turned out the colored prince.was the.lightbringer he.is.of dubious origins, and be the rich and piwerful fear and hate him and the poor and destitute love him

[Jessica]

I can totally see Brent doing something like that. He's been pushing Kip as the Lightbrnger so long I'd almost be surprised if he actually is the Lightbringer. It's that the whole series is named for it, otherwise it'd be just as likely that there's no Lightbringer at all.