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Sharadha wrote: "I am yet to read Dorian Gray! I want to, I want to soon! Why did you scrap your short stories wala readathon theme *sob*

Anyway, I'll get to it eventually :D "


No, I haven't scraped it completely! It's my backup theme :P
Theme or not, you must read Wilde! He's a miss-your-meals-and-trains-but-do-not-for-heaven's-sake-miss-my-books author :)
Damn sure you'll love him :)


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Sharadha wrote: "Arpit wrote: "Suggest if you have any good one xD"

Okay, good romances, good romances. Umm, *peruses shelf* read Forbidden - it is a forbidden subject, but it is beautiful, buddy :D..."


Thanks, noted them. Will come to them when feeling like reading romances :P

I loved MB4U when I read it, but now when I think of it, I find many flaws. I find TFiOS much better than MB4U :|

What, you read two Sparks!!! WHICH ONES??? WE SHOULD TOTALLY READ MORE :D :D :D

Three now!! Just finished one this week xD
I've read The Notebook, A Walk to Remember, and Nights in Rodanthe! Walk/Remember was the best, then Notebook, then Rodanthe :)

What about your Sparks?


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Sharadha wrote: "Hold up don't start without moi :( *why didn't I see this earlier* I'll join you for this. "

I'm 50% done with it, but I can pause for you. Tell me when you start. Also,
(view spoiler)


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Rebecca | 878 comments Shar I haven't read Dear John but have seen the movie.


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments Buddy, link for Girl with the Dragon Tattoo:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments This thread is so dead that I feel like spamming it to no end haha.

Buddy, how has your reading year been? Any one book that's stood out? Wait, I guess I know ;-)


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Helloooo!!
I was just thinking about this thread :)
This year has been okay-ish reading wise. Only five 5-starred books. Two of 'em Harry Potter books, so they won't count, and one re-read (updated from 4 to 5), so that won't count either. That means only two 5-starred books!!! Sad.
Books that stood out: The Outsiders (you MUST read it), Waiting for the Mahatma and...well, the new Arundhati Roy :P


What about you? How was your year?


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments I thought as much about Ministry :P

Have marked The Outsiders, blurb looks good and so do the tagged genres. Should I take it as a return recommendation from you to me? (did you see my recco to you for 2018?)

Year was really good despite the low number of books I read. Some of the ones that left a lasting impression were The Shadow of the Wind, The Cement Garden, The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, and Neverwhere. I'm hoping to close it off with a solid book so I'm looking at Kazuo Ishiguro's books to pick up next. Or I could just nip in your recommendation :P

Do we have a loaded BR list for next year or what? We need to compile an achievable list and work towards it :P

Ones I remember:
1. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
2. A Fine Balance
3. Swami and Friends
4. Do you want to read a Camus? I saw The Stranger on our mutual TBR. Not sure if we're ambitious.

Let's hear your list.


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Sharadha wrote: "Should I take it as a return recommendation from you to me? (did you see my recco to you for 2018?)"

Yeah, sure.
The Bell Jar, right? Yeah, sure. We can BR it sometimes after April, if that's okay with you?

I'm hoping to close it off with a solid book so I'm looking at Kazuo Ishiguro's books to pick up next. Or I could just nip in your recommendation :P

Don't! The Outsiders is a good book, but not solid...I mean, not solid enough to serve as a closure piece :D

Do we have a loaded BR list for next year or what? We need to compile an achievable list and work towards it :P

Ones I remember:
1. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
2. A Fine Balance
3. Swami and Friends
4. Do you want to read a Camus? I saw The Stranger on our mutual TBR. Not sure if we're ambitious.


We will, don't worry, buddy! #2018IsOurYear :P
oh, and I guess you forgot but I have already completed The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo :P
I'm positive about AFB and Swami, so we'll surely do them.
Camus, I definitely wanna read, but not sure when :/
I guess planned BRs don't go very well. The key to success is to jump on the book buddy's reading xD


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Now am done with Dear John (4 stars), will continue Into the Wild and after that mostly likely I'll pick Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking :)

What about you? What are your current/future projects, S?


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Hello buddy!
Let's discuss AFB here :)


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Couldn't read much today.
But my thoughts on whatever I read so far:
This is my first book with Parsee/Parsi characters in it. Only knew a little bit about them, thanks to Bollywood.
The most interesting bit was the Tower of Silence. It was...idk, how to feel about this.

I think the author did a good job on the characters, they are very realistic to me. But I think the writing is kinda dull...think it could've been better.


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And I wish (pray) this doesn't go in the communal direction or something. Tired of that stuff, seriously :/


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments ARPiT wrote: "Hello buddy!
Let's discuss AFB here :)"


Yes, let's! If we have collective doubts then we can chew the AFB thread crowd's brain 😌


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments ARPiT wrote: "Couldn't read much today.
But my thoughts on whatever I read so far:
This is my first book with Parsee/Parsi characters in it. Only knew a little bit about them, thanks to Bollywood.
The most inte..."


Couldn't reach much today either, very busy day :(

Thoughts so far: I really need to back up a bit to remember what all I've read because it's been a while since I read all those 100 pages. But I concur with you, the writing is a tad grim and the ever-gloomy situations in the book on compound that effect. Maybe this is the sole reason I don't want to back up. So I don't remember Tower of Silence - was it the Parsi death phase thing? I found that interesting too (did some research and that lol). Second, I liked Dina's storyline but was gutted for her husband's demise - he was probably the only good fruit in her mundane and rather unjust life. I hated her brother, what a bully! So happy that she is keeping minimum contact with him later.

Now onto Ishvar and Narayan's story - I feel so depressed reading about Dukhi and his family and the predicament they are all in because of their status as untouchables. I mean, it is all real and exists even today but just reading about it gives me chills. The scene with Dukhi seeking justice from that stupid two-faced priest boiled my blood.

Ishvar and Narayan are at the Muzzafar Tailor Company now and I like Ashraf. The thing with this book that I've learned, up until where I've read at leats, is that happiness doesn't last long here so I cherish it while I can whilst bracing myself for the darkness round the corner.


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments ARPiT wrote: "And I wish (pray) this doesn't go in the communal direction or something. Tired of that stuff, seriously :/"

I think that is coming up. I too am tired of it and will probably skim through if it gets very dense.


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
I remember encountering Tower of Silence... and fire temple. Either in this book or Tales from Firozsha...
And since then, I'm inclined to learn more about Parsi culture. And I guess all of Mistry's books will have that Parsi touch?


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Oh, here you go - https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
:) :)


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Enraged, he tore his foot from her grasp. “Kya karta hai? Chalo, jao!”
Too startled at being addressed in Hindi, Ruby sat there gaping. Grandfather turned to Nusswan, “Doesn’t she understand? What language does your ayah speak? Tell her to get off my sofa, wait in the kitchen.”


So, no Hindi, huh? I wonder what language they used to speak generally then? Marathi or Gujrati?


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Sharadha wrote: "Now onto Ishvar and Narayan's story - I feel so depressed reading about Dukhi and his family and the predicament they are all in because of their status as untouchables. I mean, it is all real and exists even today but just reading about it gives me chills. The scene with Dukhi seeking justice from that stupid two-faced priest boiled my blood.

Ishvar and Narayan are at the Muzzafar Tailor Company now and I like Ashraf. The thing with this book that I've learned, up until where I've read at leats, is that happiness doesn't last long here so I cherish it while I can whilst bracing myself for the darkness round the corner. "


Last year, I read Mulk Raj Anand's Untouchable. It describes a day in the life of a young boy from untouchable cast. Now it looks so tame before AFB. Maybe because of that fact that Untouchable's aim was to point out the injustices, but here it's just a normal part of the story, maybe that's what it makes it more real?

And all that sad politics on Dalit issues makes me even more angry :(


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The author rightly named him Dukhi :/


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments Gorab wrote: "Oh, here you go - https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
:) :)"


Thanks, G! The one I was looking for :)


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments ARPiT wrote: "I wonder what language they used to speak generally then? Marathi or Gujrati?

Parsis speak a variant of Gujrati, their accent is adorable to listen to! The way they say dikhrooo, etc. I love it! 😃


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments ARPiT wrote: "Last year, I read Mulk Raj Anand's Untouchable. It describes a day in the life of a young boy from untouchable cast. Now it looks so tame before AFB. Maybe because of that fact that Untouchable's aim was to point out the injustices, but here it's just a normal part of the story, maybe that's what it makes it more real?"

Untouchable is in my TBR actually. But glad that you told me beforehand that it isn't as distressing as this one as I won't be able to sit through it again! It's beyond disgusting. I have no words. Such foul play is work of sadists, not caste fanatics. We generalise Muslims as terrorists but how is this any different? Does every upper caste fellow bear distaste towards a lower caste guy? No, not true. Caste has no role in this idiocy. This is pure sadism; the will to see anyone who crosses one's ways to suffer in the name of caste and religion, be it their own kind. Shame.


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments ARPiT wrote: "The author rightly named him Dukhi :/"

Never read it like this, this is brilliant, buddy! :D


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments I'm starting to notice a pattern here - I like everyone that dies 😓 First Dina's husband and now Narayan! Who is next? 😪


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments Sharadha wrote: "Such foul play is work of sadists, not caste fanatics."

Actually, scratch sadists. These are bullies, impudent dictators! 😡😡


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments To lighten my mood - buddy, I watched an Anne Hathaway movie on Netflix today called Intern. It was real fun, very light weight movie. Her and Robert DeNiro star. Do you like her? I love her! She can pull of any role she plays! From a blonde princess in Princess Diaries to a scientist in Interstellar to a female entrepreneur in this one and a con diva in Oceans 8 😃


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments On a slightly better note, I'm getting more used to the writing now. It evokes in me feelings that Mistry willed to bring out in his readers. The Hindi way of forming English sentences (like many of Roopa's sentences are so, "What-all you make me do," etc.), the occasional Hindi words here and there, family values, etc. all of it is sucking me in gradually.


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Sharadha wrote: "Such foul play is work of sadists, not caste fanatics. Does every upper caste fellow bear distaste towards a lower caste guy? No, not true. Caste has no role in this idiocy. This is pure sadism; the will to see anyone who crosses one's ways to suffer in the name of caste and religion, be it their own kind. Shame."

"These are bullies, impudent dictators!"


“Dont you shake your head at me!” she[Roopa, Narayan's mom] said indignantly. “What-all nonsense is this, calling him back tomorrow? We are not going to deal with such low-caste people! How can you even think of measuring someone who carts the shit from people’s houses?


Buddy, will you call Narayan's mother, Roopa, a sadist, a bully too? Her behaviour is strange considering she herself suffered from the same thing!

I don't know whether to agree with you or not! I mean, yeah, caste system IS the root cause of this problem, but humans are good at finding excuses. If not caste, we have race problems (colour problem in India). Religion, sexuality, identity, gender, language, we always find something. Something to judge. Something to hate. So yeah, you are kinda right. It's not caste, it's people.

But talking about this particular issue, we can't deny the role of the caste system, imo.

You know Gandhiji and B.R. Ambedkar had a debate (via letters :P) over this topic whether caste system is really responsible for this disease or not. Dr. Ambedkar was for annihilation of the entire cast system, but M. K. Gandhi felt that there's no problem with the cast system, and untouchability is a separate issue, and the caste system should not be blamed for it. This is all chronicled in Annihilation of Caste: The Annotated Critical Edition.
Although I have yet to read the book :|


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I finished chapter 3, Village by the River.
What happened with Dukhi's family was horrible.


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Sharadha wrote: "To lighten my mood - buddy, I watched an Anne Hathaway movie on Netflix today called Intern. It was real fun, very light weight movie. Her and Robert DeNiro star. Do you like her? I love her! She c..."

I haven't seen her much tbh. Although she's good, considering whatever I've seen so far. She looks like a really cool person. She and Scarlett Johansson!

Oh, Interstellar! That movie confused the s**t out of me. All that time travelling concept, lol, my poor brain couldn't understand anything. I couldn't understand how come a single person be at two different places at the same TIME!! People say it has something to do with time as a fifth dimension (what was fourth?). I just say that the movie was technically wrong, and highly overrated :P :P

Does that mean you are recommending me Intern? *Raised brow emoji*


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments ARPiT wrote: "Buddy, will you call Narayan's mother, Roopa, a sadist, a bully too? Her behaviour is strange considering she herself suffered from the same thing!"

This is a good point to note and I thought the same and felt furious at her. But then Narayan spoke my mind to her and her relenting a bit at least on her son's insistence was appreciable. I'm not saying what she said was right (and that guy didn't even come back haha) but she found a way to cope. And that is so important in the scenario Mistry is painting here. You needn't change your views on your principles but at least learn to compromise. That's the only way you'll be happy. You give some, you get some. She budged. Now that's redeemable in my book. I'd like to know your thoughts too, if you have any.


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments ARPiT wrote: "I don't know whether to agree with you or not! I mean, yeah, caste system IS the root cause of this problem, but humans are good at finding excuses. If not caste, we have race problems (colour problem in India). Religion, sexuality, identity, gender, language, we always find something. Something to judge. Something to hate. So yeah, you are kinda right. It's not caste, it's people."

It's their gullible and dinosaur era mentality which the REFUSE to let go of. They love to bully where they can find victims. It's like they can almost SMELL the weak hearts in their vicinity and then set out to exploit them. What angers me is that such people get away with shit like this (we can totally swear on this thread :D) at the cost of others' lives and livelihood.

Caste is a major problem, but it is a much needed structure. Back when I was in school studying Indian history, we had huge chapters dedicated to the usefulness of such strata in society. Everyone had a job to do irrespective of what level you were at, they had their share of responsibilities along with a mutual sense of understanding to not overstep the line. Brahmins had to have the cleanest habits whilst they begged for everyday alms, Kshatriyas protected their people, Vaishyas got the money in, and Shudras do the lower-level labour and help out with household work, etc. It started out as a balanced ECOSYSTEM. It has corroded to the point we stand at today.

My dad says that Saint Shankaracharya (he is revered among South Indians, not sure if you've heard of him) said that your karma determines your caste, not your birth. That scene with Dukhi and the priest reminds me of the same. In fact, all the scenes between Dukhi and the Thakurs reminded me of this. The latter always invalidated their caste albeit performing atrocities in its name. That's shameful and spiteful.


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments ARPiT wrote: "You know Gandhiji and B.R. Ambedkar had a debate (via letters :P) over this topic whether caste system is really responsible for this disease or not. Dr. Ambedkar was for annihilation of the entire cast system, but M. K. Gandhi felt that there's no problem with the cast system, and untouchability is a separate issue, and the caste system should not be blamed for it. This is all chronicled in Annihilation of Caste: The Annotated Critical Edition.
Although I have yet to read the book :|"


Agree with Gandhiji. He never meant for this to compound into such a big issue when he said these things. It shouldn't have happened like this but it has.


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments ARPiT wrote: "Oh, Interstellar! That movie confused the s**t out of me. All that time travelling concept, lol, my poor brain couldn't understand anything. I couldn't understand how come a single person be at two different places at the same TIME!! People say it has something to do with time as a fifth dimension (what was fourth?). I just say that the movie was technically wrong, and highly overrated :P :P"

Even I didn't understand it in the first go :P That said, I've observed this pattern in Nolan's films where I appreciate them more with every viewing. Not sure how accurate Interstellar is scientifically but it was intelligently made, I think. Plus it's science FICTION, so all's forgiven 😋


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments ARPiT wrote: "Does that mean you are recommending me Intern? *Raised brow emoji*"

I mean if you like super light movies then yes, you'll like this one. I'm only beginning to learn of your movie choices (not really, I don't know your favourites hehe) so I'm taking a chance :P


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments ARPiT wrote: "I finished chapter 3, Village by the River.
What happened with Dukhi's family was horrible."


I'm a little into Chapter 5 (Mountains). It's really getting better (view spoiler). Are you more settled into the writing or do you still find it a little grim and odd?


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
ARPiT wrote: "I just say that the movie was technically wrong, and highly overrated :P :P"

Bwahahahaha!! Dude, that's one of the technically strongest movie of all times! At no time was any person present at two places simultaneously in Interstellar.
But I get it that you don't like Nolan much. Yes it is a hell lot confusing. I tried reading A Brief History of Time in college days, and that reading helped to better comprehend interstellar.

And by the way, Interstellar is part of my favorite chain of books/movies along with 2001 A Space Odyssey (Stay away from them!! :P)


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
Shar, now that you've pointed, I realise the diverse roles by madam Hathway. Catwoman in Nolan's another film ;)
Have you also seen Devil Wears Prada? Guess you'll like it.


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments Gorab wrote: "ARPiT wrote: "I just say that the movie was technically wrong, and highly overrated :P :P"

Bwahahahaha!! Dude, that's one of the technically strongest movie of all times! At no time was any person..."


Accha, he doesn't like Nolan? Now I know :D


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Sharadha Jayaraman (jayaras) | 1795 comments Gorab wrote: "Shar, now that you've pointed, I realise the diverse roles by madam Hathway. Catwoman in Nolan's another film ;)
Have you also seen Devil Wears Prada? Guess you'll like it."


Seen the movie and read the book and loved them both 😃

She was so, umm, rad as Catwoman! I mean, the attitude, the dedication, and passion shone through. And when (view spoiler).

The only film of hers that I found really weird was Rachel Getting Married.


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Gorab wrote: "ARPiT wrote: "I just say that the movie was technically wrong, and highly overrated :P :P"

Bwahahahaha!! Dude, that's one of the technically strongest movie of all times! At no time was any person..."


I found it hard, it's hard to find
Oh well, whatever, nevermind!!!

But I get it that you don't like Nolan much.

Not sure whether to agree or not! I mean I did enjoy the few I watched, they were well-made. I liked them. But I found all of them HIGHLY overrated :P The other beings The Dark Night trilogy. Extremely overrated, though good movies ;)





Now, now, now, let's not derail the thread with all this movie talks, ok kids? :P:P:P


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Back to AFB, I just finished chapter 5 (43%).
And all that talks of mountain reminded me of my recent trip!

Found all that hostel thing a little weird. I mean no mention of classes or any other stuff. He had only one friend there. And that too senior. And all that political drama.
Also, at some point he kinda looked a little possessive of Avinash lol.


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Sharadha wrote: " Are you more settled into the writing or do you still find it a little grim and odd? "

No, it's good now. Grim, a little, but not odd. Also, it fits well with all the stories we've read so far.


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Sharadha wrote: "This is a good point to note and I thought the same and felt furious at her. But then Narayan spoke my mind to her and her relenting a bit at least on her son's insistence was appreciable. I'm not saying what she said was right (and that guy didn't even come back haha) but she found a way to cope. And that is so important in the scenario Mistry is painting here. You needn't change your views on your principles but at least learn to compromise. That's the only w..."

This is so true. One could also argue here that years of oppression turned her apathetic towards others (in this case, that little guy). And maybe that's why she gave up, realising her fault.


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I do know of Saint Shankaracharya. We had a Sanskrit lesson on him ;)

Have you read The Immortals of Meluha? The author put a different spin on the cast-system. I gave the book 1 star and didn't continue the series :P :P

Anyway, on this whole caste debate, we have to agree to disagree.


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Gorab (itsgorab) | 3765 comments Mod
ARPiT wrote: "Found all that hostel thing a little weird. I mean no mention of classes or any other stuff.

Good that there wasn't any mention of classes and similar *useless* stuff :P
Its the same chapter where these two guys love playing chess right? And form a good companionship.
The political drama and all also felt pretty realistic to me.


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Finished chapter 5! 50% done now...

Have to say, even Khushwant uncle's language looks tame before this :P:P


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