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H.J. Moat (hjmoat) | 21 comments Hi there - I am long-time GFY lurker but I've never commented. Was hoping somebody might be able to help me out with some book recommendations...
It's recently come to my attention that I really only read classics (with the occasional exception) and non-fiction (fashion and biographies mainly) and I'd really like to get some modern stuff in my rota!
I was hoping someone on here might have a suggestion or two?!
I like romantic comedies, satires, farces and dramedies (and I LOVE a screwball comedy) but I haven't ever really been able to enjoy any chick-lit I've tried.
Recent modern books I've liked are The Improbablility of Love, Eligible, Beautiful Ruins and The Rosie Project, and my absolute favourites are Shakespeare, Pinter, Nancy Mitford, Jane Austen and P.G Wodehouse.
Anyway I just wanted to put it out there in case someone did want to throw out any recommends...thanks!


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Katie (faintingviolet) | 88 comments You need The Hating Game and possibly the work of Barbara Pym if you haven't read her before.


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H.J. Moat (hjmoat) | 21 comments thanks so much Katie - will look into those.


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Emily (eloesche) | 4 comments I just finished Eleanor Oliphant is Completely Fine and absolutely loved it. Reminiscent of The Rosie Project but, I thought, much better. Quirky, funny, heartbreaking, just a lovely read.


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H.J. Moat (hjmoat) | 21 comments I've been reading a lot of good things about that one actually! I was demurring because I fear the 'oh I'm so quirky and socially awkward' hero/ine is becoming ubiquitous but it definitely is starting to seem like that book is so much more than that...


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Gigi | 30 comments I second Barbara Pym! She has a subtle humor and a classic feel. You'll find yourself wondering if you should be warming wine for a better taste because she uses it in so many books :)


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H.J. Moat (hjmoat) | 21 comments Ok I will definitely check her out, she sounds like my kind of lady! (I have yet to come across a wine I would turn my nose up at, including ferry wine)


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Nikki How to Start a Fire by Lisa Lutz


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Alicia | 347 comments Can't think of any current recommendations, but I like your taste in favourites!


message 10: by Halle (last edited Jun 15, 2017 05:53AM) (new)

Halle Act Like It by Lucy Parker is a delight. And if you haven't read A Man Called Ove yet, you should add that to your list.

I will second the recommend of Eleanor Oliphant - one of my favorites I've read this year. I would also throw out Julia Quinn as a possibility. Her Bridgerton series is lovely and contains some great banter, which it seems like you might like.

Another author you might like is Kristan Higgins. She writes romances and now has delved into contemporary women's fiction and her romances tend towards the screwball comedy end of things.

I am also going to give you atotally random suggestion because many of your favorites line up with mine and this was one I really liked: Rules of Civility.


message 11: by Emily (last edited Jun 15, 2017 08:25AM) (new)

Emily Nicotera | 1 comments I second The Hating Game! It was so charming; I would describe it as a screwball romantic comedy. Now have to look into Barbara Pym--thanks!!


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Katie (faintingviolet) | 88 comments Lucy Parker is good as well. Second that reccomendation

Have you ever tried Rainbow Rowell?


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Abigail Sharpe (abigailsharpe) I liked The Hating Game but wasn't enamored (and why is it fiction and not romance?). LOVE Quinn's Bridgerton books.

I'd also throw Diana Gabaldon's Outlander into the mix (sorry - on my phone and can't link). That's my stuck-on-a-desert-island book.


message 14: by Sarah (last edited Jun 15, 2017 01:46PM) (new)

Sarah My new favorite author for romantic comedy is Mariana Zapata. She writes slow burn romances with a lot of comedy mixed in. I like that these contemporary stories feature young women who aren't in school, aren't floundering around incomplete w/o a man, and for the most part make practical decisions. Kulti and The Wall of Winnipeg and Me are my favorites followed by Under Locke and Rhythm, Chord and Malykhin. The latter two feature main characters who act a lot more immature than those in the first two.

Another pro imo is that there are slight connections between characters among the books, but none of them are given much attention outside of their own book. I find series tedious when the characters carry through too much.


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H.J. Moat (hjmoat) | 21 comments These are such great recommendations - thanks guys! I am now seriously considering booking a holiday so I can lie on a beach and read them all in one go.
Halle - The Rules Of Civility sounds so up my street it's scary...
I also forgot to mention one modern(ish) writer I do like - Joe Keenan (he wrote for Frasier so you just know he's good!), he has been referred to as the 'gay P.G Wodehouse'.


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H.J. Moat (hjmoat) | 21 comments Katie, I've never read any Rainbow Rowell but I've heard of her for sure. Will have a look into her work.


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Rosemarie Keenan | 1 comments H.J. wrote: "These are such great recommendations - thanks guys! I am now seriously considering booking a holiday so I can lie on a beach and read them all in one go.
Halle - The Rules Of Civility sounds so up ..."

Unlurking just to agree 100% on Joe Keenan (no relation). I reread Blue Heaven every couple of years. So hilarious and perfectly captures the New York I remember from the late 1980s.


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Abigail Sharpe (abigailsharpe) *makes note in books to read*


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Leah (leahnahmias) | 77 comments H.J. wrote: "These are such great recommendations - thanks guys! I am now seriously considering booking a holiday so I can lie on a beach and read them all in one go.
Halle - The Rules Of Civility sounds so up ..."


Just popping on to say The Rules of Civility is a great rec given your tastes. Here are some other titles, not all comic per se, you might try: Emma Donahue's The Wonder, Helen Simonson's The Summer Before the War, Jo Baker's Longbourne, Alison Atlee's The Typewriter Girl, Susannah Keating's The Picture Book, and Dara Horn's The World to Come. All of these have some version of an old-fashioned sweetness, if I had to describe what unites them. And female leads :-)


message 20: by Bonnie G. (last edited Jun 19, 2017 02:15PM) (new)

Bonnie G. (narshkite) | 1380 comments Mod
So many good suggestions. We love a lot of the same authors (I confess I don't understand Wodhouse though most of my friends adore his books). I think I lean toward things a little darker than you. That said I have a few suggestions (and also second Rules of Civility wholeheartedly)

Middlesex
The entire Neapolitan Trilogy starting with My Brilliant Friend
Most anything by Elizabeth Strout starting with Olive Kitteridge
Commonwealth
Tales of the City and the many books that follow
The Golem and the Jinni


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Gigi | 30 comments Bonnie wrote: "So many good suggestions. We love a lot of the same authors (I confess I don't understand Wodhouse though most of my friends adore his books). I think I lean toward things a little darker than you...."

Loved Middlesex!


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Bonnie G. (narshkite) | 1380 comments Mod
Gigi wrote: "Bonnie wrote: "So many good suggestions. We love a lot of the same authors (I confess I don't understand Wodhouse though most of my friends adore his books). I think I lean toward things a little d..."

One of my favorite novels ever. I like all his books, but none is as beautiful as that one.


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H.J. Moat (hjmoat) | 21 comments Bonnie wrote: "Gigi wrote: "Bonnie wrote: "So many good suggestions. We love a lot of the same authors (I confess I don't understand Wodhouse though most of my friends adore his books). I think I lean toward thin..."

Picadilly Jim is a good gateway to Wodehouse as it's easier to understand than all the Jeeves and Wooster and Blandings and is a really funny stand-alone novel.

Usually I avoid (modern) prize-winning literary fiction as I find them a bit worthy, like 'take your medicine' and I inevitably fall back into my pre-21st century comfort zone so it's really good to know when one does resonate with people who have similar taste to me. thanks!


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Bonnie G. (narshkite) | 1380 comments Mod
H.J. wrote: "Bonnie wrote: "Gigi wrote: "Bonnie wrote: "So many good suggestions. We love a lot of the same authors (I confess I don't understand Wodhouse though most of my friends adore his books). I think I l..."

I never read what I am told to read. I used to do that, but yes, it did feel like medicine. When I read books like that I am not afraid to speak my truth. I just excoriated Fobbit, which was shortlisted for the National Book Award and blurbed by every significant author alive and also UnAmericans which was similarly heaped with praise. I read reviews of both books and they seemed right up my alley, but I hated them for real reasons. That said, a lot of what I like has won prizes. I have a feeling you would really like Middlesex particularly. Also Elizabeth Strout, who I think does dramedy very well. Let us know how your reading goes!

Adding the reviews I referenced https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


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H.J. Moat (hjmoat) | 21 comments Just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone for your suggestions - they've been SO helpful! I've got a list of them all and am ready to go with either The Hating Game or Rules Of Civility (can't decide which to read first yet!) as soon as I finish Women In Love - or as soon as D.H Laurence's pretentiousness sends me round the bend and I fling it out of the bus window in a rage. Whichever comes first.


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Bonnie G. (narshkite) | 1380 comments Mod
H.J. wrote: "Just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone for your suggestions - they've been SO helpful! I've got a list of them all and am ready to go with either The Hating Game or Rules Of Civility (can't..."

Women in Love! I read that in college. I think I liked it, but honestly I was pretty pretentious in college. I sat through multiple screenings of Koyaanisqatsi and read Finnegan's Wake by choice.


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H.J. Moat (hjmoat) | 21 comments Bonnie wrote: "H.J. wrote: "Just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone for your suggestions - they've been SO helpful! I've got a list of them all and am ready to go with either The Hating Game or Rules Of Ci..."

Bonnie, if I had read this book as a teenager or in my early Twenties I think I would have found it really deep and intellectual but I think I'm about 10 years too late to appreciate the affected twaddle the characters keep coming out with. For real, my eyes hurt from rolling them!


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Bonnie G. (narshkite) | 1380 comments Mod
H.J. wrote: "Bonnie wrote: "H.J. wrote: "Just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone for your suggestions - they've been SO helpful! I've got a list of them all and am ready to go with either The Hating Game..."

LOL! Well I hope you will give your eyes a rest and read something fun soon.


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Bonnie G. (narshkite) | 1380 comments Mod
I know H.J has moved into the 21st Century, and I was about to archive this thread, but I thought it might be fun to see what 21st Century books people have been enjoying since this thread ended last June. I will start! (Sticking to fiction just because it seems that is where this discussion started, but I have nonfiction favorites too.)

Chemistry https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3... (Very stream of consciousness, not for everybody, but it knocked my socks off.)

Manhattan Beach (I am not often drawn to historical fiction, but I loved this unique approach to telling the story of a very particular time in Brooklyn https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Devil in Spring (Sometimes I just want a little romance) https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

The Vacationers (I know some people don't like Straub, but I think she is terrific.) https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 30: by Halle (last edited Feb 16, 2018 09:24AM) (new)

Halle Ooh, fun! So, I originally recommended Rules of Civility in this thread (which I still stand by), but read A Gentleman in Moscow in December and I think I maybe loved it even more!

Was extremely pleasantly surprised by The Arrangement.

Thought Dating You / Hating You was super fun.

Completely adored Little Fires Everywhere

And The Woman in the Window was a twisty turny ride.


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Bonnie G. (narshkite) | 1380 comments Mod
Halle wrote: "Ooh, fun! So, I originally recommended Rules of Civility in this thread (which I still stand by), but read A Gentleman in Moscow in December and I think I maybe love..."

Rules of Civility and A Gentleman in Moscow are sooooo good. I loved them both, but I think I agree that I liked GinM just a little more (but so close, I really adored both.) Thanks for the other suggestions. I am all over them.


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H.J. Moat (hjmoat) | 21 comments Bonnie wrote: "Halle wrote: "Ooh, fun! So, I originally recommended Rules of Civility in this thread (which I still stand by), but read A Gentleman in Moscow in December and I thin..."

I'm the opposite - I LOVED Rules Of Civility, couldn't put it down whereas I merely enjoyed A Gentleman in Moscow. I admired GinM more maybe, as a piece of writing. But it didn't speak to me in the way the Rules did. I think I just found the characters in the latter more complicated and consequently easier to get attached to. I reread all of Joe Keenan's work over the holidays and Blue Heaven really is a classic...


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Bonnie G. (narshkite) | 1380 comments Mod
H.J. wrote: "Bonnie wrote: "Halle wrote: "Ooh, fun! So, I originally recommended Rules of Civility in this thread (which I still stand by), but read A Gentleman in Moscow in Dece..."

Blue Heaven has been on my TBR for years. Perhaps it is time it got moved off the dusty shelf....


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H.J. Moat (hjmoat) | 21 comments Bonnie wrote: "H.J. wrote: "Bonnie wrote: "Halle wrote: "Ooh, fun! So, I originally recommended Rules of Civility in this thread (which I still stand by), but read [book:A Gentleman in Moscow|2943..."

Oh my god do it, you won't regret it! It's especially fun knowing it was in the 80s and imagining all the vulgar clothes etc. plus you can totally tell he wrote Frasier, the dialogue is so sharp.


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Halle Bonnie wrote: "H.J. wrote: "Bonnie wrote: "Halle wrote: "Ooh, fun! So, I originally recommended Rules of Civility in this thread (which I still stand by), but read [book:A Gentleman in Moscow|2943..."

I don't think I've ever heard of Joe Keenan outside of this thread. Adding him to my TBR now!


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H.J. Moat (hjmoat) | 21 comments Halle wrote: "Bonnie wrote: "H.J. wrote: "Bonnie wrote: "Halle wrote: "Ooh, fun! So, I originally recommended Rules of Civility in this thread (which I still stand by), but read [book:A Gentleman..."

I'm obsessed with him because he was writer on my favourite Frasier episode. It's the one where they go to the ski lodge and it plays out like a farce Oscar Wilde would have been proud of. Keenan always gets described as the 'gay Wodehouse' but he's really much closer to Wilde in terms of style and voice.


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Bonnie G. (narshkite) | 1380 comments Mod
H.J. wrote: "Halle wrote: "Bonnie wrote: "H.J. wrote: "Bonnie wrote: "Halle wrote: "Ooh, fun! So, I originally recommended Rules of Civility in this thread (which I still stand by), but read [bo..."

Well I love Wilde and (I know this makes me unpopular here) really do not like Wodehouse, so it will be interesting to see what comes out of this reading. Also, I have not seen Frasier in many many many years; thanks for inspiring a revisit. I am knee deep in ER right now for my blast from the past viewing - it was on for a very long time - but I need to get to that soon.


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CDB | 44 comments I highly recommend Fug National Jasmine Guillory's new book The Wedding Date. It was a delight to read!

The absolute best new book I've read is Far From the Tree by Robin Benway. I could not put it down but never wanted it to end.


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Bonnie G. (narshkite) | 1380 comments Mod
I am about to read The Wedding Date. I didn't know she was one of us! That makes it even more exciting. Thanks for the heads up.


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Giuliana | 5 comments H.J. wrote: "I've been reading a lot of good things about that one actually! I was demurring because I fear the 'oh I'm so quirky and socially awkward' hero/ine is becoming ubiquitous but it definitely is start..."


Hi HJ

Finished Eleanor this week and it is definitely worth the read. The subtlety of the author in revealing the characters and the plot is fantastic. One of the best books I have read in a long time.


message 41: by Bonnie G. (last edited Aug 15, 2019 01:18PM) (new)

Bonnie G. (narshkite) | 1380 comments Mod
Hey HJ! This subject has been quiet for a long time, but I recently read Evvie Drake Starts Over and I was thinking that you might like it (I usually don't do chick-lit either, but this was an exception for me)


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H.J. Moat (hjmoat) | 21 comments Thanks Bonnie! Always looking for recs - am currently trying to balance out Bleak House with Hollywood Wives so a good modern read next would be perfect! I just read Normal People and found it distinctly underwhelming, I know you had your own misgivings about it too...


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Bonnie G. (narshkite) | 1380 comments Mod
i did have reservations. I liked it, but the pacing was off and I am not sure Rooney knew what she wanted it to be. Evvie Drake is light as aiir, possibly the precise opposite of Bleak House.


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Bonnie G. (narshkite) | 1380 comments Mod
H.J. wrote: "Thanks Bonnie! Always looking for recs - am currently trying to balance out Bleak House with Hollywood Wives so a good modern read next would be perfect! I just read Normal People and found it dist..."

Another recommendation for something light and fun -- City of Girls. Reading it now and its really delightful. It reminds me a bit of Rules of Engagement, but frothier.


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