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Edge Of Tomorrow good/bad? Your thoughts?

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Vijay Have you seen the movie? What do you think about it?


Jeremy Morton I saw the movie first a couple nights ago, and I enjoyed it more than the book. The plotline is changed up a bit, and, thankfully, they pull out all the annoying sexism. [I cringed every time that Keiji encountered a woman in the book. Seriously? "Of the three types of women the human race boasted--the pretty, the homely, and the gorillas you couldn't do anything with save ship 'em off to the army--I'd put her in the pretty category."]


Vijay Yeah. I thought the same too. The movie is definitely an improvement over the book.


Scott You can't always expect characters to be as politically correct as you are.


Jeremy Morton You're right, Scott, the context for that quote is the first person thoughts of the main character. Personally, I thought it seemed to be consistent with the book's attitude towards women and not really indicated that it wasn't a warped way to look at half of the human race, but I can honestly see how it could be read more narrowly as the result of the main character's youth, military culture and personality.


Jordan I really enjoyed both the film and the novel. They were both good in very different ways....


HerodotusMao I have not seen the movie yet, and to be honest as soon as I read that first they cast Tom Cruise (who I loathe as an actor) as the Asian MC, then followed that up with changing the quite bad-ass title of "All You Need Is Kill" to the lame and generic "Edge of Tomorrow," my hopes sank like a stone.

The previews do not put my mind at ease... lame and nonsensical mech suits, designed not to be a believable piece of future military hardware, but instead to maximize the amount that the audience has to stare at Cruise's irritating face... and then the final straw... PG-13, not R.

Such a waste of potential... They could have given this movie to one of Guillermo del Toro's disciples and had something really special. Instead they put the executive producer of Knight Rider (seriously, look it up!) in the director's chair... *Sigh*
Tough to believe that it will be anything other than a standard dumb American action movie, whitewashed of any of it's unique aspects, interchangeable with dozens of others, and completely forgotten within a month or two.


HerodotusMao Gonna have to agree with Scott re: Gender issues in the book. I've known a lot of military service members in my time... at the expense of having a bunch of soldiers swear that it isn't true (while in mixed company, of course), that line Jeremy quoted could have come from the mouth of any one of them. It's not for nothing that the rape culture in the military is in the news a lot these days... Horny 18-year olds with automatic weapons are not exactly going to be paragons of progressive ideals in any culture.


Cindy Dracula HerodotusMao wrote: "I have not seen the movie yet, and to be honest as soon as I read that first they cast Tom Cruise (who I loathe as an actor) as the Asian MC, then followed that up with changing the quite bad-ass t..."

Absofuckinglutely. It could have also being an amazing futuristic movie with a Japanese cast. I haven't seen the movie either, but frankly, the book wasn't great either. I crossed off Tom Cruises face from the movie tie-in cover of my book because Cruise DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A JAPANESE MAN NAMED KEIJI KIRIYA. *sighs*


HerodotusMao Terra wrote: "HerodotusMao wrote: "I have not seen the movie yet, and to be honest as soon as I read that first they cast Tom Cruise (who I loathe as an actor) as the Asian MC, then followed that up with changin..."

Reminds me of when they wanted to do a US live-action remake of Akira and the studio was throwing around Kaneda casting rumors with names like James Franco (not the most Asian looking dude in the world, and I don't remember thinking "what this story really needs is more Hipsters poorly quoting Faulkner"), Justin Timberlake (was there a song and dance routine in the third book I missed?), Robert Pattinson (obviously to address the lack of sparkly abs in the source material) and Zac Efron (*shudder* Can't even come up with some snark for that one... just horror...).

So I guess it could be worse... Efron worse.


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