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Could Albus Potter become an Obscurus?

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S.L.J. Anyone that hasn't seen Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them...be warned...SPOILERS.

After seeing exactly what causes an Obscurus to develop and what it could do, is it possible that Albus could become one? Although it's said that he isn't nearly as talented with magic as Harry, he seen as being resentful of the wizarding world, his own family and feels like an outcast which could cause him to repress his magic.

Wizards that simply choose not to use magic don't become Obscurials, it's only when repression of magic is due to emotional trauma that it seems to occur. There is already a widely accepted theory that Dumbledore's sister became an Obscurus and accidentally killed their mother during one of her outbursts.

So what are the odds that Albus could be too?


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Felicia I'm completely behind the theory of Ariana being an obscurial. I don't, however, think Albus is one.

Firstly, he's very "old". In Fantastic Beasts, it's said that children possessed by an Obscurus almost always die before then turn 10. Almost, so this is not a final conclusion, but taken as we have never heard anything about him doing horrible things inadverdently (like we hear Arianna do), I think it points to the fact that he's not.

Also, according to Harry Potter wikia (which I find credible when it comes to Harry Potter), an obscurial is "young wizard or witch who developed a dark parasitical magical force, known as an Obscurus, as a result of their magic being suppressed through psychological or physical abuse."

You could argue that Albus was put through psychological abuse by the other Hogwarts students, but he never surpressed his magic, even if he was resentful of his family. I think that's what makes all the difference.

Nice discussion topic, though!


Chill Felicia wrote: "I'm completely behind the theory of Ariana being an obscurial. I don't, however, think Albus is one.

Firstly, he's very "old". In Fantastic Beasts, it's said that children possessed by an Obscurus..."

Yeah, I think its something you develop early. Once you develop some emotional control over yourself, instances of uncontrollable magic decrease significantly so you don't to really suppress it.


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Felicia Also, Albus didn't seem to develop his anger towards his father until he started Hogwarts. That gives him 11 years of what I assume is a childhood in a loving and caring wizarding family where he would have no need to surpress his magic.


S.L.J. From what I've gathered, Arianna was about 6 when she was assaulted and then began to repress her magic. She died when she was about 14 while Albus and Aberforth fought Grindlewald. And Constants was about 25 so I think it can happen at any age.

I think it all depends on the trauma and how the people deals with it.


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Felicia So do you think Albus is an obscurial? (:


S.L.J. Felicia wrote: "So do you think Albus is an obscurial? (:"

I think he could become one. If things with his family and the wizarding world got worse and he started to reject them, he'd be bottling up his magic for unhealthy reasons.

I'm still don't fully understand Obscurials. It says that they never live past 10 but that implies that everyone that has been an obscurial started repressing their magic when they were just babies. Do they only occur in children?


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Felicia It doesn't say they never live past 10, just almost never. So some do(like Credence), but usually they will die(like the girl Newt had tried to save before the movie started).

I'm not sure it only develops in children? Maybe it could occur in an adult that was forced to suddenly surpress magic because of abuse? This would be nice to know actually.

But in any case, I don't think Albus would become an obscurial. To be honest, I think his resentment of his family is more because he's a teenager. Even on their adventure, both Scorpius and Albus used magic. He never surpressed it and there is no signs that he should later come to surpress it.

Credence surpressed his magic, because whenever he showed signs of it, his adoptive mother would punish him. Ariana surpressed her magic because of abuse from those muggles. The closest Albus comes to being abused is the other kids in his school, and they are not doing it because of his magic.

All signs that I can see points to the fact that Albus is not an obscurial.


S.L.J. I guess you're right. Would have been a nice twist though.


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Felicia And nice to think it through. I hadn't thought to do that. (:


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Kiki W. not really. I think that to become an obscurial, you have to suppress your magic entirely. Albus didn't. He didn't suppress it at school. He was also not suppressing it around Scorpius. So no I don't think he could. But I totally believe Arianna being one.


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