Paranormality: Just some paranoia or something more ?

[Sana]

Oh ok....... I think I know wat u mean:)

[Arbaaz]

Good.

[Sana]

I said I think

[Arbaaz]

Well then, it means some sexual scenes and some topics.

[Sana]

Oh......

[Arbaaz]

Well, now u will be careful but i would seriously recemend you to read it. And also, the movie of the first book is out. City of bones. But please read the book first.

[Sana]

I will

[Maira]

Arbaaz wrote: "Well, now u will be careful but i would seriously recemend you to read it. And also, the movie of the first book is out. City of bones. But please read the book first."

I second that. The movie is plan pathetic.

[Arbaaz]

Nope, the movie was not all that bad. Yes, they made some changes but then, if they didn't then we would already know what's gonna happen and it wouldn't be much of a difference. See?

[Maira]

I hate jace in the movie. the guy dont know how yo act and he basically distroyed what was left of a rather good movie. it was directed good but the characters except Magnus ruined it.

[Arbaaz]

Actually the apearance of magnus is the most changed in the movie.

[Maira]

I am not talking about the change in the movie I am talking about the fact that it was horribly produced.

[Arbaaz]

Haha. Okay.

[Ali Khan]

"But what does the "Pari-Likhi Awaam" (educated people) of Pakistan thinks about these unexplained phenomena, are these just Superstition of the old folk, just some paranoia or something more ?"

Speaking of "Pari-Likhi Awaam", has anyone mentioned the fact that once upon a time, there was a 'scientist' running our prime research facility in the good old days of Zia who believed that since its proven from religious texts that Jinns are made/created from fire, controlling them and finding a way to harness their 'fire', one can find a cheap, perpetual and renewable source of energy and therefore solve the problem of energy crises in Pakistan once and for all.
He was officially funded for the project.
I wish he had succeeded.. Sigh.

And I like to believe in Jinns, paranormal and Aliens because if they do not exist, life would be so boring. We have explored everything and that's deplorable because there is a certain charm to things 'Unknown'.

[Riz]

The wrote: ""But what does the "Pari-Likhi Awaam" (educated people) of Pakistan thinks about these unexplained phenomena, are these just Superstition of the old folk, just some paranoia or something more ?"

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His name was Sultan Bashiruddin Mehmood.

Honestly, I wanted to talk about that guy. He was a notorious Pakistani scientist who wanted to invent the "jinn generator" and he believed that jinns can be harnessed by purifying one's soul and doing lots of zikr and once harnessed, the jinns then can be used to overcome the energy crisis in the country.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/02/wor...

[Ali Khan]

Thank you Rizwan.
Unfortunately he failed and now we are left with no spirituality and no access to paranormal sources of energy. Alas...

[Shehzad]

I read about a scientific conference held during that time. He gave a presentation on Jinn energy. Water car doesn't seem a far cry after that.

Obviously as a Muslim I believe or religion holds answers to a lot of mysteries but for the past 500 years or so, we've discovered nothing. The oil was right under our noses but we didn't see it until infidels pointed it out to us. If Zikr can really trap and summon jinns and "muwakil" , it should be a lot easier to find the answers to other things :-P

[Shehzad]

I don't know, I've always found govt schemes to be supernatural and paranormal. My earthly mind doesn't seem to grasp their strategies and five year plans.

[Arbaaz]

The, can you refer me the religious text in which it is mentioned?

[Ali Khan]

In Qur'an, Arbaaz.
You might be interested in the following links:
http://www.islamawareness.net/Jinn/ji...
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles...

[Arbaaz]

In quran? Is this mentioned in quran that demons are made of fire?

[Ali Khan]

Arbaaz wrote: "In quran? Is this mentioned in quran that demons are made of fire?"
Yes.
"And the jinns did He create from a smokeless flame of fire."
Ar-Rahmaan 55:15, 15
"And the jinn, We created aforetime from the smokeless flame of fire. "
Al-Hijr 15:26-42

[Arbaaz]

Thanks, i'll see it in my quran translation i have.

[Riz]

I read about that conference of Muslim scientists which took place during Zia's tenure long ago but I don't remember much details safe for the suggestion of harnessing jinns to generate power and a couple of others. However, I stumbled upon this nice and recent article by Khalid Ahmed on this topic.

http://indianexpress.com/article/opin...

[Ali Khan]

Ah. That was some read. Syed Ahmed Khan contested, there should be no discrepancies between 'word of God/Scriptures' and 'work of God/Physical world and their knowledge' but still it would be safe not to over-work the connection.

Jinns are spectacular. As a kid I was in love with local version of 'Penny Dreadful' storybooks with Jinns, Wizards and Fairies. That was in addition to the Pukhtoon Jinn folklore and supposedly first-person encounters with Jinns stories we were feted with by the fireside on long and dark winter nights of seemingly perpetual rains.
So, it would be losing much not to believe in them for me. The Scientists dealing in death, by meddling with the Jinn affairs, are doing a disservice to my Jinn cause. I am crossed with them, obviously.