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message 1: by Peggi (new)

Peggi Warner-Lalonde | 23 comments Since these are essentially collections of short stories, is there any way to add these manually to a list of books read?

Many thanks.


message 2: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
In general, magazines are not considered books on Goodreads.


message 3: by Peggi (new)

Peggi Warner-Lalonde | 23 comments So am I unable to add these literary magazines to my reading list?


message 4: by Peggi (new)

Peggi Warner-Lalonde | 23 comments Does this mean that I am unable to add these manually?


message 5: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16359 comments Yes.


message 6: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16359 comments ... Do these magazines have an ISBN? Can you link to an example?


message 7: by Peggi (new)

Peggi Warner-Lalonde | 23 comments They don't have an ISBN, instead they use ISSNs, for example 1059-2113. The one I'm currently reading also has a barcode, with the number 3871636003 displayed beneath it.


message 8: by Peggi (new)

Peggi Warner-Lalonde | 23 comments https://www.amazon.com/Analog-Mid-Dec...
This shows the actual cover of the one I'm reading.


message 9: by Melanie (new)

Melanie (mvalente89) | 2197 comments It looks like there are several hundred of these in the database already. Should they all be deleted (which would take a super/staff)?

https://www.goodreads.com/search?utf8...


message 10: by Krazykiwi (new)

Krazykiwi | 1767 comments To complicate matters, a lot of older editions of these are now in the public domain, which means they're on The Gutenberg Project (and readers keep adding them from there), which also means in some cases the PD publishers are picking them up and republishing them too.


message 11: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16359 comments If they have an ISSN and not an ISBN they don't belong on GR according to the policy.


message 12: by Peggi (new)

Peggi Warner-Lalonde | 23 comments How did they get in the database if they can't be added manually?


message 13: by Peggi (new)

Peggi Warner-Lalonde | 23 comments So, now it would appear, my question would be: how did they get there, and how can I do it? I'm sorry if I've caused a kerfuffle.


message 14: by lethe (last edited Jan 08, 2017 02:58PM) (new)

lethe | 16359 comments What I thought you meant was "am I allowed to add them manually?" and the answer was no, since they do not have an ISBN.

I must say though, the manual isn't clear. It says that these are allowed: "periodicals without ISBNs but substantially similar to books (e.g., perfectbound literary magazines), although they should be typed as "periodical" in the work: media type field"
(https://www.goodreads.com/help/show/1...)


message 15: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Unfortunately, users sometimes add items to the Goodreads database that do not belong there. Librarians who find these items will then delete them.


message 16: by Peggi (new)

Peggi Warner-Lalonde | 23 comments These are bound similar to books, not stapled. And I noticed that Ellery Queen Mystery Magazines are also listed in the database. I believe this would also apply to Alfred Hitchcock's Mystery Magazine, Asimov's Science Fiction, On Spec, and Fantasy & Science Fiction, to list several more. I apologize for being a royal pain. I guess, then, I would ask how can get various of these listed, if they are not already. I have a lot of these on my bookshelves to get through.

Many thanks for your patience!

By the way, what does "perfect bound" mean?


message 17: by Peggi (new)

Peggi Warner-Lalonde | 23 comments I now know the meaning of "perfect bound". The periodicals I have mentioned are.

The work all of you do makes me think that you must be like The Librarians in the television show. :-)

And given that I have wanted to be one all my life, I'm envious.

You're all wonderful!


message 18: by Krazykiwi (new)

Krazykiwi | 1767 comments Perfect bound have a cover with a spine (although for magazines it may be very narrow) and pages are glued in, as opposed to the kind of magazine where the pages are stapled. Many paperback books are also perfect bound.


message 19: by Lena (new)

Lena | 81 comments I’m a big fan of short stories and the best are featured in long running literary magazines like Asimov’s. I started a group that only reads short fiction: Spells, Space & Screams
The magazines published by Dell and Science Fiction and Fantasy Magazine are still available in physical format and are perfect bound.

If that’s enough to keep them on GR and available for discussion then good. Perfect Bound should be a safety sticker on all of them.

But you are missing the point.

Reading great stories and sharing our thoughts about them is why we come to GR. Fantastic award winning magazines like Clarkesworld, Uncanny, Lightspeed, and Nightmare, just to name a few, are only available digitally.

Digitally sold on Amazon.

These are stories worth reading.

Digital or physical, literary magazines should be a separate category to magazines like People or Weekly World News.

Thank you for your time.


message 20: by Emily (last edited Nov 08, 2018 05:00PM) (new)

Emily | 17607 comments Lena, you should address your concerns with staff or in the feedback/suggestions group so you can be heard. Librarians are not Goodreads employees or in charge of these policies.


message 22: by lethe (last edited Nov 09, 2018 01:10AM) (new)

lethe | 16359 comments Emily wrote: "Lena, you should address your concerns with staff or in the feedback/suggestions group so you can be heard. Librarians are not Goodreads employees or in charge of these policies."

Staff in the Feedback Group have already said that perfect-bound literary magazines without ISBNs are allowed. It is important to have the policy stated here in the Librarians Group as well, so those magazines are no longer under threat of being deleted by staff or librarians who are not aware of that rule (or of what perfect-bound magazines are — I certainly had no idea before).

See https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 23: by Lena (new)

Lena | 81 comments 15 second example video of an Asimov perfect bound:
https://youtu.be/lT5d5qIWro8


message 24: by Emily (new)

Emily | 17607 comments lethe wrote: "Emily wrote: "Lena, you should address your concerns with staff or in the feedback/suggestions group so you can be heard. Librarians are not Goodreads employees or in charge of these policies."

St..."

Great to know! I see some of these posts now after searching that group. Thanks!


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