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We have a clothesline (solar power rocks) and use it for just about everything BUT when we first moved-in our neighbors actually lodged a complaint with the town. We live in a suburb with 1/3 acre with trees, fences, trampolines and sheds but we cannot have a fixed clothes line - apparently it's classier to waste fossil fuel.

Some people still use clothes lines here if they have a back yard. My mother was still hanging clothes out on the line a few years ago until Dad put a stop to it. She was very unstable on her feet and almost fell off the stoop. I used to have one out on the farm, but hate ironing so didn't use it much. Lots of people prefer the aroma of sheets dried on the clothes line.

Clothes lines are not so common here anymore. Some people with a back yard still have them. But in the Netherlands you can't just use clothes lines, the weather is just too unpredictable. We have a dryer which I use for towels, underwear and socks. All other clothing goes on an indoor drying rack.

I think I'll ring the doctor for an appointment later. It's hard to tell if i just have left over aches or whether i still have the infection. Not had this before so i don't know. I went for a short walk yesterday and i didn't get very far before starting to cough and getting pain. I've decided to take the rest of the week off to fully get better.

Re: clotheslines. How weird with all the cultural differences. We have clothes horses for inside when it's freezing cold/wet/damp that I plonk in front of or on top of the heater/vents. But otherwise, even in winter, everything's on the line. Aussie gardens (and apartment balconies most of the time) are not "complete" without one. I get we have a lot of sun, even in winter compared to a lot of other places, but would have thought in the warmer months they would be really useful.
And complained about, Joan!! Ridiculous!!


Good luck! I apologise if he tells you to rest and stop listening to crazy women on the internet from the other side of the world.

That's good to hear, Sarah. Fingers crossed the infection is on the way out but if it isn't, at least you can get some more antibiotics.
I had my first migraine of the year last night :( Luckily my medication and a good night's sleep have eased it off somewhat.


I love the fresh smell of sheets off the line, clean and crisp. I never did like clothes or especially towels off the line. They are too stiff and scratchy. When items come out of the dryer they are all warm and soft. We still hang quite a few items on the indoor racks though so that the dryer doesn't ruin or shrink them. Now I'm thinking how nice it would be to have sheets fresh off the line when spring rolls around.
@ Rusalka - Plenty of people in the US complain if their neighbors get clotheslines because they find them to be an eyesore. Apparently, no one cares to look at their neighbor's laundry. They do still have them in some areas though. I think as long as they're high enough or out of the way where children won't be getting into them, they're fine.
There's actually a term around here called "clotheslined" which means getting hitting across the throat. So if you're playing a sport for example and someone puts their arm in front of you and you get hit in the throat and fall down, they say you were clotheslined. It comes from kids playing near clotheslines and running into them in that manner. Do you have a similar term? From what I understand, your lines are in areas where kids wouldn't be playing.
Sarah - Not to be all bossy or preachy, but make sure you take some type of probiotic if you get another round of antibiotics. Antibiotics do terrible damage to your gut and can cause other problems. I think that may be what Rusalka was getting at with the yogurt, etc.

And we too. With so much sun to use for the task.
Also, the nasty acarus and mites only die in the sun...

I love the fresh smell of sheets off the line, clean and crisp. I nev..."
I love the scratchiness... otherwise, if they are soft I think I'm only smearing the water around instead of drying it properly... (weirdness alert!!!!)



Hope you will be on the mend now, Sarah!

Hope you get better Sarah. Medicaments are not the fiend. Improved bacteries are!!!

I use a clothes line mostly to save energy, & because I like the crunchy jeans, sheets & towels and
(to be honest)maybe a bit because I know it puzzles the folks across the street.
Sheesh, now I gotta polish my halo.

@ "maybe a bit because i know it puzzles the folks across the street."
You'd fit into Austin great : )

I am already feeling a bit better after starting my new antibiotics. May it continue.
We had a cold night last night and the canal is frozen this morning. A boat just came back breaking through it making an almighty noise. I'm pleased i wasn't still in bed at the time otherwise it would have caused me a fright. Lol.

Nah. Our lines are smack bang in the middle of our yards/gardens. You take yourself out on them all the time. Except our term (including in sport) for this is "coathangered".
And then you can grab onto the lines, hang, and swing yourself around on them too.
I mean, this is what Australian clotheslines look like.

That's a hills hoist, and your garden isn't a garden without one. Although we have recognised that it takes up heaps of room, so slowly we are putting in more discreet lines so we can use the garden more. But I would say 80% of backyards still have this in there.
Edit: Alright, 80% of gardens of houses built before the 00s. They aren't trendy for slimlined, white and black, townhouses. But pretty common.

"Coathangered?" That's interesting. Where'd that come from? Are there a lot of coat hanger injuries there?? lol

I use a clothes line mostly to save energy, & because I like the crunchy jeans, sheets & towels and
(to be honest)maybe a bit because I know ..."
I hope I didn't offend! You just don't see nice houses in my area with clothes lines, or, if they have them they are well hidden. Usually it is the more run-down houses that you see with clothes lines around here. And it isn't the nice metal clothes lines like Rusalka posted, it is usually a cord tied up between two trees or a couple of poles placed into the ground. Or maybe even from the columns on the front porch then connected to a tree or something.


This is an informative article you might find interesting:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/07/...

Also, Cherie, my Mum would have killed me if I was caught swinging on the line. Those things are expensive, and a pain to put in!
My father in law decided to dig his out one day. Dug and dug and dug, and turned out that the old owners had an old septic tank, had filled it with concrete, and stuck the line in the top. Ended up having to dig the whole thing out, and find someone with something that could pull the whole tank out of the ground (and take it away).

I had one like that growing up too. I remember hanging out the wash all the time, helping my mom when I was younger. In my house now, once we had a large yard, we tried it but the line kept breaking and it just became a nuisance especially when I had smaller kids to tend to. Now we usually just use the dryer but I'd like to eventually put up a clothesline in the back again.

Oh, my! What were they hanging there? Space suits?

Me too, Tasha. I think it is a pretty easy way of save energy. I am not talking specifically about money, but responsibility with the environment. It is not possible to use the clothesline the whole year where I live, but we have sunny summers and springs. It is a little effort we can do that might have a huge impact if enough people do it. It is like avoiding using the elevator for just one floor if you are in physical condition of using the stairs.
(Not a little effort for me actually, since with 8 kids I will be walking from the washer machine to the clotheslines and back lots of times in a week!)


We have weather alarms, code yellow, orange or red for dangerous or severe weather, and it's code orange for tomorrow, which might be scaled up to code red. They mainly warn people who return from winter sport tomorrow (a lot of people) and who also have to travel through Austria and Germany where the weather is even worse.
Anyways, I'm glad I don't have any plans tomorrow. I'm going to stay inside all day.

This is an informative article you might find interesting:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/07/..."
Whew, good!
Temps are dropping here. Our high for today was 30f (-1c) which we were at before sunup this morning. Its 11:30am now and already down to 25f (-4c) with a wind-chill of 14f (-10c). I'm really not cut out for cold weather!
Some friends and I have started doing Couch to 5k again and we went to run/walk last night. It was well above freezing, but really windy. By the time we got finished my lips were numb and I could barely form words. LOL. I don't know why we decided to start this back up in January!
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I had to go back over the 2016 version..
Sarah wrote: Exposure therapy is popular in the world of CBT, in particular for social phobia. I know the NHS are biv advocates of it. I use exposure therapy / desensitization with my clients but it's imaginal exposure (being a hypnotherapist) so it is much gentler, done in a state of relaxation and i have found it very effective. I've used it with a wide range of phobias - driving, flying, spiders, water, injections.
Yes I have had and continue to have CBT in regards to recovering with depression and liek you said social anxiety, and decided to try it out for other things too. The spiders thing is working and the heights =]