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message 801: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19323 comments Thanks for that, Joan. I still plan to read the book, but stopped checking the thread recently. I don't want to run into spoilers.


message 802: by Joan (new)

Joan Kristie wrote: "Thanks for that, Joan. I still plan to read the book, but stopped checking the thread recently. I don't want to run into spoilers."

Ah, I had wondered Kristie because I posted a question I'd hope you would address.


message 803: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19323 comments Joan wrote: "Kristie wrote: "Thanks for that, Joan. I still plan to read the book, but stopped checking the thread recently. I don't want to run into spoilers."

Ah, I had wondered Kristie because I posted a qu..."


Oh! I'll go back and take a look. I might wait a bit for people to have time to fix their spoilers though. :)


message 804: by jaxnsmom (new)

jaxnsmom | 8341 comments Janice - what a great client for coming to help you. I would love to see the Northern Lights. Nature has so many mind boggling sights.

I have to admit I drove off once with the gas nozzle still in the tank. I only went a few feet - there was enough noise that it hit me right away that I had done something wrong. Until a few years ago I'd always driven a stick shift. For the first year I had an automatic I don't know how many times I would turn the car off and start to get out and feel the car moving, or sit there a moment and then wonder why the empty car beside me was moving (yes, I didn't realize at first it was my car doing the moving). I kept forgetting to put the car into park. I'm glad Travis wasn't there to laugh at me :)

I haven't had much snow this year, and none of any matter. I like to have at least one good one each winter. I used to love getting snow, but I'm too old and out of shape to deal with it now.


message 805: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11296 comments We had a good snowfall during the night, so school is closed. Again. So I am trying to reorganize my day. It is incredible what an early phone call can do to your schedule/day. :)


message 806: by Joan (new)

Joan So what do you think about this?
A judge in Virginia, U.S.A. has sentenced 5 teenagers to read a book a month and write a book report on each. They must choose from a list of books dealing with racism. The teenagers were convicted of vandalism using racist symbols and words.
www.nytimes.com/2017/02/08/us/black-school-racist-sexist-graffiti


message 807: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60073 comments There are some great books on that list. Hopefully, the teens will learn something valuable from them that will be life changing. Racism often comes from a place of fear and misunderstanding. A little bit of knowledge can go a long way.


message 808: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Sounds like a good sentence Joan. I think these sentences can be much more helpful in certain people than spending time in jail or getting a fine. Hopefully they learn from it!


message 809: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) | 1796 comments I like that they have to visit the Holocaust Museum in DC as part of this too, it's a really good museum.


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Dawn (caveatlector) | 1796 comments Sandra wrote: "We had a good snowfall during the night, so school is closed. Again. So I am trying to reorganize my day. It is incredible what an early phone call can do to your schedule/day. :)"

I sympathize, we've got freezing rain this morning and I think it's going to create a lot of havoc.


message 811: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments It makes me think of American History X. Such a good film.


message 812: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19323 comments I like the idea of trying to teach the teens something versus just punishing them. Much better to potentially make a change than to just have them resentful of their punishment, which would probably be directed at their original targets.


message 813: by Cherie (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21536 comments Joan wrote: "So what do you think about this?
A judge in Virginia, U.S.A. has sentenced 5 teenagers to read a book a month and write a book report on each. They must choose from a list of books dealing with rac..."


I'm sorry, but the first thing that comes to my mind is "How are they going to make them read the books and write the book reports."?


message 814: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Perhaps by telling them that if they don't, they'll be sentenced in a more regular way? Like when you have to do community service as a sentence and you don't show up? I don't know, like you say, they can't force them I guess.


Ugh, I've had a super sore throat since Sunday. Nothing seems to help, and now I've got a cough too. I don't go to my gp quickly but if it hasn't diminished by Monday I'll go. We're going on holiday next week Saturday and I want it to be gone by then.


message 815: by Mariab (new)

Mariab | 3059 comments Joan wrote: "So what do you think about this?
A judge in Virginia, U.S.A. has sentenced 5 teenagers to read a book a month and write a book report on each. They must choose from a list of books dealing with rac..."


I think is a fantastic idea


message 816: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60073 comments Peggy wrote: "Perhaps by telling them that if they don't, they'll be sentenced in a more regular way? Like when you have to do community service as a sentence and you don't show up? I don't know, like you say, t..."

In addition to Peggy's comments, they could do a supervised reading time and the book report is proof that they've read it.

I hope you can fight off that bug, Peggy.


message 817: by Joan (new)

Joan I thought everyone would find that article interesting. The prosecutor checked with the families to ensure that the books chosen were acceptable. The teenagers' probation officers will be checking the book reports. I hope they realize how easy it is to find pre-made book reports on-line.
The article did not say what would happen if they do not do the work.
If the teenagers don't complete the assignment, I guess they would go before the judge again and get some other sentence.

At least one of the teenagers said he did not know about the symbolism of a swastika.


message 818: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments @Peggy - have you tried dissolvable paracetamol (or something stronger - I have used co-codomal in the past) and gargling with it. This is a tip I was given by the nurses when I had my tonsils removed. I still do it for sore throats and it does help. I hope you feel better soon.


message 819: by jaxnsmom (new)

jaxnsmom | 8341 comments Hopefully the boys' sentence will have a positive lasting effect. I think it's better to have a sentence that addresses the crime rather than some blanket sentence.


message 820: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Weirdest thing, the sore throat started on Sunday, full force right away, nothing gradual, stayed for 4 days, and this morning I woke up and it was gone just as suddenly.


message 821: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisathebooklover) | 9244 comments I'm glad your throats is feeling better, Peggy. There are some really strange bugs going around at the moment.


message 822: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19323 comments That is weird, Peggy. Glad it is gone though.


message 823: by Tejas Janet (new)

Tejas Janet (tejasjanet) | 3513 comments Glad your sore throat has disappeared, Peggy. Isn't it odd how ailments can come and go so suddenly. I used to get earaches that would do that all too often. Not any more, except if out too long when it's windy.


message 824: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19221 comments Glad you're feeling better, Peggy.

I think it's a brilliant sentence!


message 825: by Kristie, Moderator (last edited Feb 11, 2017 10:24AM) (new)

Kristie | 19323 comments I saw a list of the books the judge approved for the book reports for those kids (5 boys ages 16 & 17, 3 of whom are minorities) online. This is what I found:

LIST OF APPROVED BOOKS

1. The Color Purple- Alice Walker
2. Native Son – Richard Wright
3. Exodus – Leon Uris
4. Mitla 18- Leon Uris
5. Trinity – Leon Uris
6. My Name is Asher Lev – Chaim Potok
7. The Chosen – Chaim Potok
8. The Sun Also Rises – Ernest Hemingway
9. Night –Elie Wiesel
10. The Crucible – Arthur Miller
11. The Kite Runner – Khaled Hosseini
12. A Thousand Splendid Suns – Khaled Hosseini
13. Things Falls Apart – Chinua Achebe
14. The Handmaid’s Tale – Margaret Atwood
15. To Kill A Mockingbird – Harper Lee
16. I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings – Maya Angelou
17. The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks – Rebecca Skloot
18. Caleb’s Crossing – Geraldine Brooks
19. Tortilla Curtain – TC Boyle
20. The Bluest Eye- Toni Morrison
21. A Hope In The Unseen – Ron Suskind
22. Down These Mean Streets – Piri Thomas
23. Black Boy – Richard Wright
24. The Beautiful Struggle – Ta Nehisi Coats
25. The Banality of Evil – Hannah Arendt
26. The Underground Railroad – Colson Whitehead
27. Reading Lolita in Tehran – Azar Nafisi
28. The Rape of Nanking – Iris Chang
29. Infidel – Ayaan Hirsi Ali
30. The Orphan Master’s Son- Adam Johnson
31. The Help – Kathryn Stockett
32. Cry the Beloved Country –Alan Patton
33. Too Late the Phalarope –Alan Paton
34. A Dry White Season –Andre Brink
35. Ghost Soldiers – Hampton Sides

What do you think? They each need to choose 12 of the 35, one per month for a year.


message 826: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Some very good books in there. I don't know all of them, some I read, some I heard of but never read, some I never even heard of. I'll look them up later and I expect my tbr to grow.


message 827: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19323 comments That's what I thought too, Peggy. I have only read 4 of them, though I have a few others on my TBR. I need to look up several of them when I have some time. I expect I'll be adding to my TBR.


message 828: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11296 comments I read 6 books from that list, and have a few on my TBR. On the overall looks like a good selection.


message 829: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments Nice list. I've not heard of many of those. Will check them out and add some (no doubt) to my wishlist.


message 830: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments I also read 6. 5 of those were 4 or 5 star reads for me.


message 831: by Joan (new)

Joan Kristie wrote: "I saw a list of the books the judge approved for the book reports for those kids (5 boys ages 16 & 17, 3 of whom are minorities) online. This is what I found:

LIST OF APPROVED BOOKS

1. The Color..."


I've read a few; Night has been in my TBR for a long time but I am afraid to delve into that wretched era.
I really enjoyed Reading Lolita in Tehran


message 832: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60073 comments I like that the list is inclusive of several ethnic groups.


message 833: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Joan wrote: "Kristie wrote: "I saw a list of the books the judge approved for the book reports for those kids (5 boys ages 16 & 17, 3 of whom are minorities) online. This is what I found:

LIST OF APPROVED BOO..."


I've considered adding Night to my tbr several times but I feel to afraid to read it. Because it's a memoir set in the camps I expect it to be more shocking and horrific and detailed than the WWII historical fiction I've read, and I know that if it indeed is, I will feel upset for days after and I don't want that.


message 834: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60073 comments Peggy wrote: "I've considered adding Night to my tbr several times but I feel to afraid to read it. "

We read this book in my real life book club. We all thought it was an incredible book. I can understand your reticence to read it but I highly recommend it.


message 835: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19323 comments I like that there were different ethnic groups included too, Janice.

For those of you concerned with reading Night, it is one of the books that I did read. I think it is difficult to hear because it is a memoir and not fiction. However, I read quite a bit from that time period, so there was nothing new in it to me. I think that helped to make it easier to read. If you've read similar stories before, I don't think it's that bad. I don't recall it being too graphic in comparison to others.


message 836: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments I told my partner about the book reading sentence and he thought it was a fantastic idea.

Anyone tried any Palestinian food at all? I saw a recipe posted on one of the facebook groups I'm on - Lentil, Aubergine and Pomegranate stew which is called Rummaniyeh. I made it last night. It was quite strong tasting and swet as it had loads of pomegranate mollasses in it. I think if i make it again, I'd put slightly less in and add a bit more water.


message 837: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Thanks Kristie and Janice. I'll add it to my tbr.

Never had it Sarah, but it sounds good!


message 838: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19221 comments We eat a bit of middle eastern food. I like pomegranate molasses, but you have to be sparing with it. I have a good cocktail recipe with it if you need to finish a bottle.


message 839: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments I've used the mollases in a beetroot and butternut squash warm salad recipe and it was good. But it only called for a small amount but this new recipe had loads in it.


message 840: by Rusalka, Moderator (last edited Feb 12, 2017 03:32AM) (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19221 comments Oh that salad sounds yum!

Pomegranate Storm http://www.thekitchn.com/recipe-pomeg... is the cocktail. I dump the soda water as we rarely have it, I use alcoholic or non ginger beer depending on what we have in the fridge, use normal bitters, and if I don't have aperol or campari use triple sec or cointreau (but blood or normal orange juice or mineral water would work too). The rum, strawberries, molasses, lemon juice and ginger are the main things.


message 841: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments I'll put it on the recipe thread when I get a chance.


message 842: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19221 comments Sarah wrote: "I'll put it on the recipe thread when I get a chance."

Oh good point. I'll put this one there too before I head to bed. I always forget that thread.


message 843: by jaxnsmom (new)

jaxnsmom | 8341 comments I've read 9 of the books and have some of the others on my tbr. Don't know if I'll read them or not as I get too emotional with books as I'm reading them.


message 844: by Joan (new)

Joan This is such a beautiful Valentine's Day story, I have to share, NY Times Saved from The Holocaust, He Loved Me and Wanted to Keep Me

On Valentine’s Day, couples often reminisce about that moment they knew they would stay together, whether during a vacation, over a fancy dinner or, perhaps, while meeting their future in-laws.
For Isaac and Rosa Blum, who became teenage sweethearts 75 years ago in a ghetto in Nazi-occupied Poland, that moment came as they and thousands of other terrified Jews were being herded to a death camp by Nazi soldiers.
“I saw her walking in front of me,” Mr. Blum recalled. “I went up to the German and told him, ‘That’s my sister,’ even though she was my girlfriend.”
Miraculously, they were both pulled off the line and managed to survive the Holocaust by working as slave laborers in a munitions factory. The following 70 years have been a cinch by comparison...
The article continues with more about the experiences


message 845: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19323 comments Wow. What a touching story. Heartbreak and loss, love and commitment, perseverance...all in one short article.


message 846: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60073 comments What a great story. Thanks for sharing that, Joan.


message 847: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Thanks for sharing Joan :)


message 848: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11296 comments So touching. Thanks fro sharing, Joan.


message 849: by Jayme, Moderator (new)

Jayme | 4568 comments And that is why love conquers all. Thanks for sharing, Joan.


message 850: by KimeyDiann (new)

KimeyDiann | 2174 comments What a touching story, Joan. Thank you for sharing!


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