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message 1: by Stefano G. (last edited Dec 30, 2016 07:59AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Stefano G. | 22 comments Basically, I was trying to create a new book:

i.e. Dreamer by Brandon Sanderson, but I started from the page of Heuristic Algorithm and Reasoning Response Engine... I think I captured all the right information from Brandon's Website (http://brandonsanderson.com/dreamer/). But instead of creating a new book, I created an additional edition to the above...

What I need is the second edition to be made into an individual book...!

Can someone help me? Thank you.


message 2: by Dobby (new)

Dobby (dobby0390) | 7869 comments Separated: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

If you need assistance in completing the listing, just let us know.


Stefano G. | 22 comments Thank you very much for your help! That was super!


message 4: by Melanie (new)

Melanie (mvalente89) | 2198 comments Just an FYI, you're not supposed to create a separate entry for a book that only appears in an anthology.


message 5: by Stefano G. (last edited Dec 30, 2016 02:59PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Stefano G. | 22 comments Why not? Every other one of the other short stories by Brandon Sanderson has a seperate entry in goodreads...this one was missing so I added it... How can I comment on this story otherwise? Isn't the objective of goodreads to create a database of all stories, and for users to be able to share their thoughts on these, and for publishers to create visibility on their own stories...?

Edit: BTW THANKS FOR DELETING IT! Why did you delete it? Cause it's not allowed are you 12? There's a lot a lot of books on goodreads that have not been published as individual entities with GR entries , why do you have to delete the only short story on goodreads by brandon sanderson that doesn't have its own entry? Is this to spite me. Nice abuse of power. Now my review and rating doesn't make sense? Do you work for the company that made the anthology? What's really your objective? 90% of people are rating that anthology because they have to, but in fact they only read one book out of the 10... is that meaningful? As me a lot of people are interested in having that individual story as separate...

Do what you want but at least provide me some evidence, quote the rule please, educate me.


message 6: by Arenda (new)

Arenda | 26447 comments forzainternl wrote: "Do what you want but at least provide me some evidence, quote the rule please, educate me."

https://www.goodreads.com/help/show/3...


Stefano G. | 22 comments Thanks Arenda, can you explain why this is the case?

And I know of many other short stories that are "not complying to the rules" but I will try my best not to highlight them because I really really like commenting on an individual short story and not on an anthology. As for me goodreads is a place where I can log what I've read, and where can i share with the community my review and ratings of individual stories. I buy the anthology anyway to read the short story... so I honestly do not understand the policy.


message 8: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
forzainternl wrote: "Thanks Arenda, can you explain why this is the case?"

Items that have not been published as separate items are not considered separate items by Goodreads. When found by librarians, they are (when possible) merged into the anthology they are part of.


message 9: by Stefano G. (last edited Dec 30, 2016 04:02PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Stefano G. | 22 comments rivka wrote: "forzainternl wrote: "Thanks Arenda, can you explain why this is the case?"

Items that have not been published as separate items are not considered separate items by Goodreads. When found by librar..."


I'm sorry if I insist but is there a reason why they are not considered seperate items?

Very often, in my experience, you want to only read an anthology because your favourite author wrote a short story in it. But you don't read all the short stories in the anthology but rather only the one... Wouldn't in that case make more sense to have an individual entry for the short stories, if requested? I would have to purchase the anthology anyway... I understand it must mess with the ratings of the anthology? But it also messes the reviews for the anthology?


message 10: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
forzainternl wrote: "is there a reason why they are not considered seperate items?"

That would be a question for the publisher.


message 11: by Krazykiwi (new)

Krazykiwi | 1767 comments GR is a database of books that have been published, not parts of books, and not a database of stories. Short stories that haven't been published individually are not books, the policy has always been pretty clear on it, although a lot of people clearly disregard that, when those items are found they are fixed according to the site's policy.

(I would in any case disagree that most people don't read all the books in anthologies they purchase. And if you're only reviewing one of the stories, just say so in your review.)


Stefano G. | 22 comments @rivka thanks for the reply

@Krazykiwi
ok you may be right, but it doesn't hurt to have the short story as a seperate entity? Obviously if people seem to often create them, there is a demand to have an individual database entry for short stories.

This is basically taking a published work, which is the anthology and dissecting it to one lower level (The lowest level), the individual short story... and allowing the individual that just read the short story to review that, and the individual that reads the full anthology to review that. So, both types of readers are satisfied. In the end we aint talking about drugs, it's just short stories!


message 13: by Krazykiwi (last edited Dec 30, 2016 04:28PM) (new)

Krazykiwi | 1767 comments There's a policy, and guidelines about what goes in the database, and how it's presented. You agreed to the TOS too.

Librarians who don't follow policy aren't librarians for very long. So yelling at us (who don't make the policies) to get it changed, is simply not usually very productive.

You could try bringing it up on the feedback group - if you got enough support, GR might consider changing the policy. We can't, and until we're told different, we'll be following it.


Stefano G. | 22 comments OH this is not the feedbacks group? Remember the famous saying "rules are meant to be broken". You can be a good librarian all you want, following the rules to the letter, and I applaud that, but new ideas shouldn't be always stiffled. Anyway, this is not the right place for that, as you said.


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