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FYI: for Clement of Rome, the texts cited in the calendar are from vol.9, not vol.1, for the following reasons:The First Epistle of Clement to the Corinthians, which was published in vol.1 of the ANF series, was reprinted in vol.9, completed and revised from a manuscript discovered after the publication of vol.1.
The Second Epistle of Clement, considered spurious, is not in vol.1, but in vol.9, and included in the calendar for the sake of completeness.
If you want to stick with 1 Clement printed in vol.1. That is perfectly fine. Let me know if you need help getting the text.
It appears the text may be different if it was 'revised from a manuscript found after vol. 1, I will try to find vol. 9. Thank you.
Susan wrote: "It appears the text may be different if it was 'revised from a manuscript found after vol. 1, I will try to find vol. 9. Thank you."My Kindle store does not have volume 9.
Vol. 9 Kindle version is available from Amazon.https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002CMLH0Q
Other versions (PDF, Epub, HTML, plain text) can be found at CCEL.
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf09...
You can also listen to the writings of the church fathers for free on LibriVox.
Susan Margaret wrote: "You can also listen to the writings of the church fathers for free on LibriVox."Yes! Thank you for the reminder, Susan Margaret.
Here are the audiobooks of the Church Fathers we'll be reading:
Clement of Rome: The First Epistle to the Corinthians
https://librivox.org/first-epistle-of...
Polycarp: Epistle to the Philippians
https://librivox.org/epistle_polycarp...
Ignatius of Antioch: Epistles
https://librivox.org/epistles-of-igna...
Justin Martyr: First and Second Apology
https://librivox.org/the-first-apolog...
https://librivox.org/the-second-apolo...
Irenaeus: Against Heresies
https://librivox.org/against-heresies...
Note: The audiobook version of 1 Clement appears to be the same as the vol.1 version, having 59 chapters, whereas the revised vol.9 version has 65 chapters.
I should add that I have not listened to any of these audiobooks, and cannot speak to their quality, and would appreciate if somebody could provide feedback on them.
Wow this was in front of my face the whole time! Haha so I'm a late to the party, but I'm starting week 1 now.
We are two weeks into the reading of Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.1, and a little over one-third into the book. Some of you may be behind schedule. I'm having a hard time myself trying to keep up with the reading and all the posts - most of them are thoughtful posts that require time to read and respond. It's amazing how many posts a small group of people can generate. :)
The good thing is that you don't have to catch up with all the reading before participating in the discussions. The writings of the Church Fathers are independent of each other, and can be discussed separately. The discussion threads are grouped by author and title, so you can choose the one you are interested in, and jump in any time to post your thoughts.
According to schedule, we will be reading Irenaeus' major work, Against Heresies, starting this Saturday Jan. 21. It is an important work of Christian theology, as well as a criticism, if not refutation, of Gnosticism.I would encourage everyone to read along and participate in the discussions, as this is perhaps the single major book for our first group read, in terms of length, importance and relevance to our own time.
This is the description of the online version I've downloaded in PDF format. The cover is different than the one you have for the schedule (cover image is a stack of two books), this one seems to have multiple versions as well so I'm not sure what year it was released. I don't suspect there's much difference?Here's what I think most of us are reading via CCEL:
ANF01. The Apostolic Fathers with Justin Martyr and Irenaeus
Author(s): Justin Martyr, St. (c.100-165) Schaff, Philip (1819-1893) (Editor)
Publisher: Grand Rapids, MI: Christian Classics Ethereal Library
Description: Originally printed in 1885, the ten-volume set, Ante-Nicene Fathers, brings together the work of early Christian thinkers. In particular, it brings together the writings of the early Church fathers prior to the fourth century Nicene Creed.These volumes are noteworthy for their inclusion of entire texts, and not simply fragments or excerpts from these great writings. The translations are fairly literal, providing both readers and scholars with a good approximation of the originals.This particular volume contains works by St. Clement, Mathetes, St. Polycarp, St. Ignatius, Barnabas, St. Papias, St. Justin Martyr, and St. Irenaeus.These writings were heavily influential on the early Church, and for good reason, as they are inspirational and encouraging.These volumes also come with many useful notes, providing the reader with new levels of understanding. Overall, Ante-Nicene Fathers, or any part of it, is a welcome addition to one's reading list. Tim Perrine CCEL Staff Writer
Aaron wrote: "This is the description of the online version I've downloaded in PDF format. The cover is different than the one you have for the schedule (cover image is a stack of two books), this one seems to h..."It is the same text. The cover I used is from the Amazon Kindle version.
So what's the deal with setting the progress for the group read? Seems I need to jump through hoops just to set a bookmark.Here's everyone who's signed on apparently (which is kinda cool to see):
https://www.goodreads.com/challenges/...
I think you mean the challenge, which is not the same as a group read. You need to create a shelf for the challenge, and only books in that shelf would count toward your goal. Does that make sense?
Ok, but your challenge says 9 volumes, but I show 10..Ante-Nicene Fathers, 10 Vols (Ante-Nicene Fathers #1 - 10)
The 10th volume contains only indexes, so it doesn't count.
Nemo wrote: "According to schedule, we will be reading Irenaeus' major work, Against Heresies, starting this Saturday Jan. 21. It is an important work of Christian theology, as well as a criticism, if not refut..."Glad I discovered this group! I'm deep diving Reformation study for the 500th anniversary this year, but I hope to keep tabs on the discussions here. Thomas Oden's recent death and memoir has inspired me to read the church fathers more closely. Peace!
Glad you joined us, Tom. We definitely need someone from the Lutheran tradition to contribute to the discussion. :)
Tom wrote: "I'm deep diving Reformation study for the 500th anniversary this year."Welcome Tom!
I decided to refresh my knowledge on the Reformation this year as well. It is a timely subject.
Week 1: Clement of Rome, Mathetes, Polycarp, Ignatius of Antioch
Week 2-3: Barbanas, Papias, Justin Martyr
Week 4-6: Irenaeus
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