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message 1201: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments Good-oh!


message 1202: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4832 comments Something clicked today, and I figured out the rest of a scene, and finished it - 2k+.

It isn't perfect - there's a little logic flaw I'm still mulling. But that's after a week of practically no words, so it's a start.

I'm trying to copy Kath.


message 1203: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments Don't follow me, I'm lost! ;)


message 1204: by David (new)

David Hadley After almost 2 months of absence, I managed to get back to it today.

Only 500 words or so, but where I was going is starting to come back to me now.


message 1205: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments Onward and upward, David!


message 1206: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments 2816. The short story is standing at 7957. I envisaged it being around 10k so another session might do it for the first draft. Then the real works starts!


message 1207: by David (new)

David Hadley Kath wrote: "Onward and upward, David!"

Not only that, if it wasn't for the hiatus, I'd have a new book out now as well.

Glad your short story is going so well.


message 1208: by Elizabeth (new)

Elizabeth White | 1761 comments Alicia wrote: "Something clicked today, and I figured out the rest of a scene, and finished it - 2k+.

It isn't perfect - there's a little logic flaw I'm still mulling. But that's after a week of practically no w..."


Tricky little beggars, those logic flaws. MIne is within six pages of the end of editing. I intend to sleep on it tonight.


message 1209: by Alicia (last edited Jun 12, 2017 02:03PM) (new)

Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4832 comments Elizabeth wrote: "Tricky little beggars, those logic flaws. MIne is within six pages of the end of editing. I intend to sleep on it tonight. ..."

Your subconscious will gnaw on it all night, and produce the answer, toute suite, in the morning.


message 1210: by M.T. (last edited Jun 12, 2017 11:40PM) (new)

M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8049 comments Good going everyone. Elizabeth, I hope your subconscious has sorted the logic flaw. :-) I don't know where last week went I was planning McMini's Birthday. Still haven't done the dreaded party. I've two newsletters to write this week and the parish magazine which no one else will do and which has gone quarterly because I'm not doing it every bloody month either. Phnark. Also have to write a talk on marketing for authors and two mailings. Might get to do a few bits here and there it depends, I'm also in the two week point in my menopausal monthly cycle when My fiction mojo goes on strike which is good timing seeing as I'm strapped for writing time so I can keep my hand in with the mag and the newsletters and get back to some real writing in July. :-)


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Kath Middleton | 23860 comments 2450 today. Story finished (at least, that's what I think!) at 10,407 - in four days.

Mind you, last time I finished a short story in short order my editor persuaded me that things needed filling out and it ended up at 34k!


message 1212: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4832 comments Kath wrote: "2450 today. Story finished (at least, that's what I think!) at 10,407 - in four days.

Mind you, last time I finished a short story in short order my editor persuaded me that things needed filling..."


We should all have your problems.


message 1213: by M.T. (last edited Jun 14, 2017 11:25PM) (new)

M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8049 comments Wading through two three day weeks they're short for the best possible reasons but I'm not likely to write much. Too much catch up being played. :-)


message 1214: by David (new)

David Hadley Decided my current 1st draft needs to go back to the drawing board, bit of a soggy middle.


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments David wrote: "Decided my current 1st draft needs to go back to the drawing board, bit of a soggy middle."

Better than a soggy bottom!


message 1216: by David (new)

David Hadley Gingerlily - Mistress Lantern wrote: "David wrote: "Decided my current 1st draft needs to go back to the drawing board, bit of a soggy middle."

Better than a soggy bottom!"


https://youtu.be/08e9k-c91E8


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments Awesome song and awesome movie :)


message 1218: by M.T. (new)

M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8049 comments Gingerlily - Mistress Lantern wrote: "Awesome song and awesome movie :)"
Can't remember much about the movie, enjoyed it though and yes, love the song!


message 1219: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments I added 160 words in yesterday's edit and, having slept (rather badly - that blackbird wakes at 3:45!) I have now added another couple of hundred words. Still a short story, though. Actually it's a novelette, but if someone can come up with a less wet-sounding word for that, I'll be deeply obliged.


message 1220: by M.T. (new)

M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8049 comments Woot go Kath. I have done a good chunk of the administriviatative shite that should allow me to do some writing tomorrow. Now I'm off out to lunch.


message 1221: by David (new)

David Hadley Gingerlily - Mistress Lantern wrote: "Awesome song and awesome movie :)"

Indeed.

One of my favourite films.


message 1222: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4832 comments M.T. wrote: "Woot go Kath. I have done a good chunk of the administriviatative shite that should allow me to do some writing tomorrow. Now I'm off out to lunch."

I have to spend actual good time talking to insurance company people about meds; always good for a laugh and throwing something against the wall.


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M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8049 comments Alicia wrote: "M.T. wrote: "Woot go Kath. I have done a good chunk of the administriviatative shite that should allow me to do some writing tomorrow. Now I'm off out to lunch."

I have to spend actual good time t..."


Ugh. Sympathy. I still have some to do tomorrow but not as much.


message 1224: by An (last edited Jun 15, 2017 11:12AM) (new)

An | 16 comments Kath wrote: "Actually it's a novelette, but if someone can come up with a less wet-sounding word for that, I'll be deeply obliged. "
Kath, just another 6 500 word and the word should be Novella. How this sounds to you?


message 1225: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments Sounds fine but I'm not going to pad what really is a short story, just to get the name :)


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments Call it a Kathella. Then its whatever number of words you end up writing!


message 1227: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments Sounds like a plan! :)


message 1228: by Pam (new)

Pam Baddeley | 3334 comments Edited two chapters yesterday.


message 1229: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4832 comments Yay, Pam!


message 1230: by M.T. (last edited Jun 18, 2017 11:30PM) (new)

M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8049 comments Had a final look at the 13k short and sent it to my fabulous editor yesterday evening. Dead chuffed. Can't afford a cover though so I will have to draw one ... Yikes. Think my scanner is bust, too but it may just need a new lamp and if I can get hubby's wi fi printer working I might be able to use that ... Or my Mum's. Need to get the Kickstarter campaign tiers sorted for the eyebombing book, too.

Also wrote a blog post.
https://mtmcguire.co.uk/2017/06/17/ey...


message 1231: by Pam (new)

Pam Baddeley | 3334 comments Alicia wrote: "Yay, Pam!"

Thanks Alicia. I've parked the book I was editing as my MS has just come back from my editor - exciting times as this is the first one to be professionally edited. Now slowly going through her changes/comments.


message 1232: by M.T. (new)

M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8049 comments Second the Yay Pam!

I've done a long blog post, but it doesn't go live until 1.30 gmt

http://mtmcguire.co.uk/2017/06/25/thi...

cheers

MTM


message 1233: by Pam (new)

Pam Baddeley | 3334 comments M.T. wrote: "Second the Yay Pam!

I've done a long blog post, but it doesn't go live until 1.30 gmt

http://mtmcguire.co.uk/2017/06/25/thi......"


Enjoyed your post MT. I am in the same boat really, but even worse because I have taken a lot of years to write most of my books and rewrite them. Anyway, getting nearer to publishing the first .... worked through the editor's changes on another 9 chapters today :-)


message 1234: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21809 comments Piling up a back-list only helps if people notice them. I genuinely think the market is saturated
I look at my own book buying habits and the comments of other people and suspect that there are just too many people swamping the same channels.


message 1235: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments I agree with Jim: when I'm bombarded with books left and right, I tend to retreat to my comfort zone (partly why despite having hundreds of unread books on my Kindle [<== and there's your problem] so far this year I've *reread* a 16 book series from years ago)

I'm just not buying new books - and definitely not at full price - to add to my massive unread list.

And then I wonder why no one buys mine, lol.


message 1236: by Jim (last edited Jun 26, 2017 01:52AM) (new)

Jim | 21809 comments Yes, I picked up a C J Sansom book, one about his Tudor lawyer and detective Shardlake. I got if free from a book exchange at our village hall, enjoyed it immensely and discovered my daughter has the rest of them.
So I'm reading them for no cost, but not only that, as they're about 600 pages each, I'll not be looking for anything else to read for some time

That's why I feel that the market is saturated, there are so many really excellent books out there which are effectively free


message 1237: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments Yes, there are huge numbers of books, but that just widens our choice. It's just as well that I don't feel about new publications the way you chaps do or I wouldn't read yours!

And why do you write them? The joy, the fun, the pleasure is in the writing. If I didn't write them, I'd only being doing something else like playing golf (shudder) or joining local good causes to get on the committee (double shudder). If I had no sales, I'd still write.

So buck yourselves up and get back to the keyboard!


message 1238: by Andrew (new)

Andrew Lawston (andrewlawston) | 1774 comments I did about 3,600 yesterday, my most productive writing day for months. I've pretty much finished up my cyberpunk novella, and made a start on a space opera thing.

I'm also trying to decide whether I'm mad enough to try and put together a lengthy fantasy short story for a potential anthology outing that's due by the end of June. Four days, 10,000 words, no outline... worth a go?


message 1239: by M.T. (new)

M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8049 comments I have to eat some lunch and do the wages but after that I should bet a bit of writing time in. I think it will be the eyebombing book, today.


message 1240: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments Andrew wrote: "I did about 3,600 yesterday, my most productive writing day for months. I've pretty much finished up my cyberpunk novella, and made a start on a space opera thing.

I'm also trying to decide whethe..."


I recently wrote a 10.4 k short in 4 days - mind you, then I faffed with it and it's now 11k. But go for it!


message 1241: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21809 comments my big problem is that some at least of the time I spend writing has to pay money into the family budget. But freelance journalism is dying slowly as well, so I might have to do more proper work


message 1242: by M.T. (new)

M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8049 comments Kath wrote: "Yes, there are huge numbers of books, but that just widens our choice. It's just as well that I don't feel about new publications the way you chaps do or I wouldn't read yours!

And why do you writ..."


Mwah hahahahrgh! Yes boss!


message 1243: by Andrew (new)

Andrew Lawston (andrewlawston) | 1774 comments Well, I managed to chalk up 600 words or so of the fantasy thing over lunch, so with a couple of productive evenings this week, I suppose I could give it a go...


message 1244: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4832 comments Spending my time for a week or so trying to learn Amazon ads - interesting stuff to go through, and a lot of sheer work. Not for the faint of heart; wondering if I'm going to find usable stuff, as I write in a different niche than most of the people putting out information.


message 1245: by M.T. (new)

M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8049 comments Alicia wrote: "Spending my time for a week or so trying to learn Amazon ads - interesting stuff to go through, and a lot of sheer work. Not for the faint of heart; wondering if I'm going to find usable stuff, as ..."

Just remember that you don't pay for the times your book appears in front of people. They say a person has to see an advert 7 times before they do anything, for that alone it might be worth it. I've been doing the same thing!

Cheers

MTM


message 1246: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments One day I might get some free hours close enough together that I have some clue what I was doing. Meantime, every waking hour is spent on work that pays money. When the red numbers finally go away I'll be free to to write.


message 1247: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4832 comments M.T. wrote: "Just remember that you don't pay for the times your book appears in front of people. ..."

This is true - impressions are free; you only pay for clicks. But my conversion rate from clicks has been too low. I've revamped a lot of the data - keywords, categories, and the book description. I liked my old description - but it doesn't have the punch even literary novels from the big publishers have now - exciting words and punchy lines.

I'll see how the new one does.


message 1248: by M.T. (new)

M.T. McGuire (mtmcguire) | 8049 comments Gah, feeling like I'll never write again. Another three day week coming up. Family trip, family wedding. It will be fun but I just wish I could have some time to unscramble my brain.


message 1249: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4832 comments I didn't write today, but finished the final polish on the next chapter in the WIP, and sent it off to my beta reader (which is the way we do things), PLUS mastered Compile on Scrivener again and stopped myself from making a massive mistake in the process.

Trying very hard to learn Amazon ads, because I think that's where I will find the strangers I need to advertise to. Spent a day analyzing the results from my first 7 ads - not making any money yet unless you count borrows, and even then, it's marginal, but as a scientist at least it gives me something to work with to improve the ads.

Found some HUGE possibilities where not knowing what I was doing when I started will turn into maybe better ads.

Can't wait to put it back in the background, though, and get back to writing.


message 1250: by Will (new)

Will Macmillan Jones (willmacmillanjones) | 11324 comments Still can't get the new printer going. One issue is that I seem to have to stand in one room and hold one button, while simultaneously standing in another room holding a button on the router.

Perhaps I will work out how to build an arm extension later.

Have put a lot of words down recently. And had an interesting conversation with a full time professional author I know about the best length for a sci fi novel.


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