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Dead Beat (The Dresden Files, #7)
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Elizabeth E | 49 comments Just finished reading Dead Beat today, and noticed that the number of pages is wrong. I have the book in my hand (ISBN: 978-0-451-46091-2) and it has 435 pages in it, but the book page says 517 pages. Since I'm a librarian, I went to edit the book details, but when I got there, there was a librarian note saying to leave it at 517 as that had been verified by people with the book. However, I also have the book and it most definitely does not have 517 pages. In addition, the cover and all the other information is the same so an alternate cover edition doesn't seem to make sense to me. Help?


message 2: by Sandra (last edited Nov 27, 2016 05:52PM) (new)

Sandra | 31408 comments Well, this is a peculiar one. WorldCat has 2 pages for this book & ISBN one shows 435 & the other 517. The librarian leaving the note has incl the WorldCat page showing 517 as part justification, which is how I found it.

The only difference I saw was the size, so maybe one is a trade paperback?

I'm thinking that maybe we leave this conundrum to Rivka to solve.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
http://www.worldcat.org/title/dead-be...
http://www.worldcat.org/title/dead-be...


message 3: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Unfortunately, just as publishers sometimes release editions with the same ISBN and different covers, they occasionally do the same thing with different pagination.


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lethe | 16359 comments Is your copy a mass-market paperback, Elizabeth, or a larger paperback? If the latter, maybe an "alternative format edition" could be added with format 'paperback' and page count 435?


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Tal (taliesien) | 1 comments @Elizabeth, what are the dimensions of your copy? Mass market paperback can be either about 4-4.25" x 7" (orig mass market size) or 4 - 4.25" x 7.5" (the slightly taller version of mass market introduced in mid-00's) and I can see publishers using the same ISBN for them but not for trade paperback which could be either 5" x 7" or 6" x 9" ish. Most Big publishers would not use the same ISBN for the mass market binding and the trade paperback.


Elizabeth E | 49 comments My copy is 4 1/8" by 6 3/4".


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lethe | 16359 comments Worldcat has one listed as 18cm and the other as 19cm.


message 8: by Sandra (new)

Sandra | 31408 comments 18cm = 7"
19cm = 7.5"


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Tal (taliesien) | 1 comments Elizabeth wrote: "My copy is 4 1/8" by 6 3/4"."

That's definitely standard "pocket" size mass market trim. You've got me curious enough to dig mine out and check since I'm sure I have that binding from one of the first printings.

lethe wrote: "Worldcat has one listed as 18cm and the other as 19cm."

That would be the 7 inch standard v. the "tall" mass market trim that added about 1/2 inch of height with the same width.

@Elizabeth I think your only option is to create an edition without ISBN to reflect your page count.


message 10: by lethe (last edited Nov 29, 2016 12:18AM) (new)

lethe | 16359 comments If everything else is the same, including format, I think it's policy not to add a new edition, but to note the page count issue in a librarians note, as was done here. There are several cases like this on GR already, f.e. The Catcher in the Rye: https://www.goodreads.com/book/edit/7..., which was decided together with rivka (see https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...)


Elizabeth E | 49 comments I could be wrong, but an 82 page difference seems a bit more significant than the 10 or 20 page difference in your example. If WorldCat has two pages for the two different editions, maybe a new edition should be created here. Rivka?


message 12: by lethe (last edited Nov 29, 2016 09:07AM) (new)

lethe | 16359 comments Elizabeth wrote: "If WorldCat has two pages for the two different editions, maybe a new edition should be created here."

That in itself is no reason. WorldCat contains a lot of duplicate editions, because libraries import their own collections into it, and naturally there is overlap.

But I agree 82 pages is a large discrepancy.


message 13: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
We don't usually add a new edition if the only difference is page count.


Elizabeth E | 49 comments rivka wrote: "We don't usually add a new edition if the only difference is page count."

Sorry that I'm still confused, but you say usually. Does that mean that since the discrepancy is so large in this case that a separate edition might be acceptable, or no?


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