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I am excited. I listen to these because I love James Marsters' narration.
I also have the book though, in case I can't keep up with audio. It's so much faster to read it myself.
But Marsters. Mmmm. =D
I love Marsters, too. I think he makes the perfect Harry. I listened to the first five but have been reading them since then.


When are you reading blood bound, by the way?
I'm late on starting this one again :) I will catch up, though. Vaughn said we can start Blood Bound whenever you ladies are ready. We were waiting on her. End of the week?
Alyssia wrote: "That'd be fine. I'm all caught up for once. Should I post thoughts behind spoilers?"
Maybe only if it is important to the plot...
Maybe only if it is important to the plot...
What is up with Thomas? It sucks to be Murphy, having to deal with her ex-husband who is now married to younger sister and now lives in Chicago.

(Loved his "Now you've done it" part. You've done it: you said you'd solve the problem quickly. Now it means everything's gonna go to the dogs. This is so true in Harry!World. XD)
I missed Murphy in the last book. After finding out she ran off with Kincaid, I was expecting more of a story there.

Also, good on Harry for finally having the guts to ask Murphy. I'm really happy that it didn't happen though.
Is anyone getting the vibe that Molly will be the new Harry? And also a possible love interest later? I can't tell ... But it seems like Harry will need a supernatural lover?
Maybe I'm reading it wrong. Perhaps he's just gonna be her teacher. Dunno.
I'm at 65% right now. Where is everyone else?
I have more to say, but there's not a lot of chatter happening?

The connection between Molly and Harry is a little creep. Like when she was 14 and talked to Harry about sex. That is just wrong! (view spoiler) I like Murphy but I don't think a relationship between them would work. I'm glad mouse is ok. I feel sorry for Thomas. He has tried to fight against his nature but that will never work. I think Molly and Harry could team up but not hook up.

I agree with you, Leigh. But, (view spoiler)
Alyssia wrote: "Leigh wrote: "The connection between Molly and Harry is a little creep. Like when she was 14 and talked to Harry about sex. That is just wrong! [spoilers removed] I like Murphy but I don't think a ..."
Totally agree once she is over 18 it will be it will be less creepy. What is up with these young girls and old men?
Totally agree once she is over 18 it will be it will be less creepy. What is up with these young girls and old men?
We accepted it with Hawke once Sieanna was eighteen. I didn't see him as a father figure to her. Shifters are different. It is less creepy with them. I don't know why. Harry could be Molly's father and that's what creeps me out.

I loved this one! This is one of my favorite quotes.
“Beside me, Molly rolled her shoulders in a few jerky motions and pushed at her hair in fitful little gestures. She tugged at her well-tattered skirts, and grimaced at her boots. "Can you see if there’s any mud on them?"
I paused to consider her for a second. Then I said, "You have two tattoos showing right now, and you probably used a fake ID to get them. Your piercings would set off any metal detector worth the name, and you’re featuring them in parts of your anatomy your parents wish you didn’t yet realize you had. You’re dressed like Frankenhooker, and your hair has been dyed colors I previously thought existed only in cotton candy.” I turned to face the door again. “I wouldn’t waste time worrying about a little mud on the boots.”
― Jim Butcher, Proven Guilty
“Beside me, Molly rolled her shoulders in a few jerky motions and pushed at her hair in fitful little gestures. She tugged at her well-tattered skirts, and grimaced at her boots. "Can you see if there’s any mud on them?"
I paused to consider her for a second. Then I said, "You have two tattoos showing right now, and you probably used a fake ID to get them. Your piercings would set off any metal detector worth the name, and you’re featuring them in parts of your anatomy your parents wish you didn’t yet realize you had. You’re dressed like Frankenhooker, and your hair has been dyed colors I previously thought existed only in cotton candy.” I turned to face the door again. “I wouldn’t waste time worrying about a little mud on the boots.”
― Jim Butcher, Proven Guilty
If anyone is interested I posted p0ictures of the RT convention. Here is the link.https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Scroll down it's at the bottom.
Scroll down it's at the bottom.
Love the pictures! Did you tell Nalini Singh that we want a KIT book?
I like that quote, too :) There were a couple more I have marked that I liked. I'll try to remember to post them later.
I like that quote, too :) There were a couple more I have marked that I liked. I'll try to remember to post them later.
Alyssia wrote: "In driving to Gwenn's for a day visit, so I'll knock out the last four hours of audio today. I'm where everyone is [spoilers removed]"
Have fun!
Have fun!
Sheri wrote: "Love the pictures! Did you tell Nalini Singh that we want a KIT book?
I like that quote, too :) There were a couple more I have marked that I liked. I'll try to remember to post them later."
Didn't get a chance but I did tell her about our buddy read.
I like that quote, too :) There were a couple more I have marked that I liked. I'll try to remember to post them later."
Didn't get a chance but I did tell her about our buddy read.

Remind me never to do that again with a Dresden Files book in hand. It just doesn't work.
The scene about the sword, who to give it to, and which other Council member held one before: it seriously cracked me up. I'll admit I wouldn't mind see this actually happening. XD
Also, the scene with Molly (view spoiler) He's far from perfect and sometimes his chivalry, especially when women are concerned, can be a little annoying, but all in all, he's managed to remain a pretty good man until now. And considering all he's seen and done, it's really not so easy as it sounds.
Yzabel wrote: "So I went to bed yesterday evening, thinking "it's already midnight, I'm going to read for 10-15 minutes, then lights out."
Remind me never to do that again with a Dresden Files book in hand. It j..."
Totally agree. I'm glad Dresden didn't take her up on the offer. Do you think Molly really likes Dresden or is she drawn to the power that Dresden has coupled with the fact her mother can't stand him and Molly just wants to rebel?
Remind me never to do that again with a Dresden Files book in hand. It j..."
Totally agree. I'm glad Dresden didn't take her up on the offer. Do you think Molly really likes Dresden or is she drawn to the power that Dresden has coupled with the fact her mother can't stand him and Molly just wants to rebel?

I wonder how the apprenticeship will go? He didn't give her room to rebel or argue with him. It is life and death they are dealing with.
Do you think Merlin is part of the new power that is at work? Is that why he is quick to get rid of new wizards?
Do you think Merlin is part of the new power that is at work? Is that why he is quick to get rid of new wizards?


The Merlin might be part of that. Or he could be an old politician so blinded by years of intrigue that walking a very hard line is a way of asserting his position and power, in a period where power is slipping away from the Council becase of the war? At this point, both hypotheses could work for me.

I'm not sorry.
we did listen to it as we were driving around though. it's fun to listen to the earlier books.

I love this bag. It's totally my new library bag. :)

I'm not sorry.
we did listen to it as we were driving arou..."
Of course you're not sorry. That is because you are evil.
Alyssia wrote: "Leigh, I received my package when I came home today! Thank you soo soo much! You're the sweetest!
I love this bag. It's totally my new library bag. :)"
I'm so glad you liked it! You ladies have been a blessing to me and I am glad I was able to show y'all a little appreciation.
I love this bag. It's totally my new library bag. :)"
I'm so glad you liked it! You ladies have been a blessing to me and I am glad I was able to show y'all a little appreciation.
I can see a possible relationship between Harry and Molly...in the future. I think I'd rather see him with Murphy, though.
Did anyone else catch the connection between Molly being tempted by black magic and Harry being tempted by the angel? They are going through pretty much the same thing.
Did anyone else catch the connection between Molly being tempted by black magic and Harry being tempted by the angel? They are going through pretty much the same thing.

I'm not sure about Molly. It seems like their relationship (if it existed) would never be quite equal.
... I don't know if I want Harry with anyone, until he stops being such a ... *expletive removed*
But maybe.
-- Why would you like to see him with Murph, Sheri?
I'd rather see him with Murphy than Molly...but she wouldn't be my first choice either. Susan would be my pick.
I agree, though, that at this point he really doesn't need a love interest. Harry is wholly complete upon himself without a "better half." Plus, that would take all the fun out of figuring out who it might be :)
I agree, though, that at this point he really doesn't need a love interest. Harry is wholly complete upon himself without a "better half." Plus, that would take all the fun out of figuring out who it might be :)

I don't think Harry deserves a lady until he can stop treating them like bodies and objects. His "chivalry" is overdone, to the point that it has the opposite effect.
I agree with you on overkill...
I hadn't checked but I figured it would be a year later. That's how they seem to have been running so far.
I hadn't checked but I figured it would be a year later. That's how they seem to have been running so far.