30.5 - Catherine T's Task: Fall Out Over Autumn

[SRC Moderator, Moderator]

30.5 - Catherine T's Task: Fall Out Over Autumn
As a Brit, and proud, I have to grit my teeth when we start the "Fall" season, and remember that it's not wrong, it's diversity of language. For this task we'll find books which embrace the diversity of meaning, and promote comedic misunderstandings, between proper English & johnny-come-lately American.

You can read one or two books, provided the total page count is at least 600 pages.
NOTE: Sequential Art, Comics, Comic Book, or Manga may be used provided the general SRC guidelines are met.

Go to effingpot.com, choose a category and select word(s) or phrase(s) in bold. Read a book with that EXACT word or phrase in the title or subtitle - no variations. If you select a phrase the entire phrase must be present intact in your book's title/subtitle. If you read 2 books to meet the page number requirement you may use the same word or phrase twice.
ex. Clothing category- jumper - The Smoke Jumper
Odds & Sods: casualty: The First Casualty
Required: identify the category and word/phrase when you post.

[Cat]

If you are having difficulties with the site, see DLMRose's post here for googledocs of the categories/chapters

Spiffing Show!
Daddy-Long-Legs - hyphenation OK in this instance only - not a blanket OK.

[Cat]

Not Cool, Dude
In general, if you have to ask "phrase is N is notN OK?" the answer will be No - EXACT word / phrase only - changing the word/phrase (or truncating the phrase) will generally change the meaning, and not cause confusion or annoyance. I allowed hyphens in daddy long legs as this is a stylistic choice which doesn't affect the meaning.
The word/phrase doesn't have to be used with the right definition (see The Smoke Jumper - which doesn't refer to a warm woolly garment), but DOES have to be spelt the same.

[SRC Moderator, Moderator]

This help thread is open!
If you have trouble with the site:
Try these googledocs- you may need a pdf reader

Clothing
Motoring
People
Odds & Sods
Food & Drink
Slang
Around the House

[Kathy G.]

Under Odds & Sods it says: Daddy long legs

I wanted to read a book with that title
but it has a hyphen-- will that work?

Daddy-Long-Legs

[Cat]

Kathy G. wrote: "Under Odds & Sods it says: Daddy long legs

I wanted to read a book with that title
but it has a hyphen-- will that work?

Daddy-Long-Legs"

I'm OK, in this instance, with the hyphenation (it's stylistic, not changing the meaning).
This shouldn't be taken as a blanket OK for hyphenation though!

You might want to be careful re childrens MPG popping up on that one though...

[Kathy G.]

Oh right--- Thanks.

[Christine]

So plural/singular variations are not allowed? I'm wondering if I could match the phrase "Cat's eyes" with the book Cat's Eye.

[Cat]

Christine wrote: "So plural/singular variations are not allowed? I'm wondering if I could match the phrase "Cat's eyes" with the book Cat's Eye."

nope, plural/singular aren't allowed. sorry!

[Terri FL]

I'm having some problems with that link. I've tried it with a couple different programs as well as on my laptop and tablet. Hopefully, this is just a timing thing. Is anyone else having the same issues?

[Dee]

Kathy G. wrote: "Oh right--- Thanks."

hey Kathy - i'm using this for another task and the ARBookfinder is UG - which is allowable (I believe)

[Lisa]

Terri FL wrote: "I'm having some problems with that link. I've tried it with a couple different programs as well as on my laptop and tablet. Hopefully, this is just a timing thing. Is anyone else having the same is..."

I can't connect with the link on my laptop. I've also tried tried to open the site directly with no success. Not working from my iPhone either.

[Dee]

i just opened for me (using firefox), desktop computer

[Christine]

I had problems trying to open it on my laptop with IE and Chrome, but was able to open it on my Android.

[Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus]

Try these googledocs- you may need a pdf reader

Clothing
Motoring
People
Odds & Sods
Food & Drink
Slang
Around the House

[Lisa]

It opens now. Must have been a glitch in the system. :)

[Bea]

So, if I got this correct:

Slang: Bloody - Bloody Mary - 307 pages
Slang: Dear - Frankly My Dear, I'm Dead - 304 pages

[Book Concierge]

Okay ... I was confused when I opened the site because it says 'CHAPTERS' not "categories" ... but I see in your googledocs (post # 15) that these same "categories/chapters" are listed. PHEW...

[Book Concierge]

By the way, Catherine ... I often see "rug" mentioned in British novels ... I'm assuming it's what we Americans call a "blanket" (but I don't see it anywhere on the effingpot.com site),

[Maya]

I'm just checking : GIRL is bolded under BIRD on the People list. This means that GIRL is fair game, right?

[Cat]

Book Concierge wrote: "By the way, Catherine ... I often see "rug" mentioned in British novels ... I'm assuming it's what we Americans call a "blanket" (but I don't see it anywhere on the effingpot.com site),"

ummmm....Not entirely.... In modern era rugs go on the floor except for travel rugs which are blankets. Carpets are fitted, wall-to-wall, whereas rugs are smaller. Period books are probably looser in that fitted carpets are a modern invention, so would use carpet where we'd say rug now (floor covering), and rug for blanket.


Or we could be talking about wigs, of course!

[Cat]

Bea wrote: "So, if I got this correct:

Slang: Bloody - Bloody Mary - 307 pages
Slang: Dear - Frankly My Dear, I'm Dead - 304 pages"

Yup, you've got it right! Enjoy :)

[Cat]

Maya wrote: "I'm just checking : GIRL is bolded under BIRD on the People list. This means that GIRL is fair game, right?"

What are you going to do to the poor girl? Yeah - have at her! (any word/phrase in bold is OK.)

[Maya]

Well, you see, I had a lot of free time....

[Terri FL]

I'm still not able to open it. This is the message I get:

This site can’t be reached

effingpot.com took too long to respond.

But, I can open the Google docs pdf's just fine that DLMRose posted, so thanks for those links! Of course, having just moved back after living in London for 4 years, I should know most of those words anyways without the documents! :)

[Jayme(theghostreader)]

If you word is lift would you accept lifted?

[Cat]

Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "If you word is lift would you accept lifted?"

No, sorry. Exact phrase / word.

[Kathy G.]

Dee wrote: "Kathy G. wrote: "Oh right--- Thanks."

hey Kathy - i'm using this for another task and the ARBookfinder is UG - which is allowable (I believe)"

Thanks--- I switched because I needed a bigger page count.

[Aleksandra]

to confirm if I get it right;

People "flower" The Little Flower Shop by the Sea - 432 p
People "flower" The Flower Seller 450 p

[Cat]

Aleksandra wrote: "to confirm if I get it right;

People "flower" The Little Flower Shop by the Sea - 432 p
People "flower" The Flower Seller 450 p"

Absolutely fine!

[Nicola]

Can i verify this meets 1 book over 600 pages:The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle (using word Bird from People Chapter) is 609 pages. Thanks.

[Val]

AHHH PERFECT TASK. Reading The Queen Mother: The Official Biography, the most British topic ever, ROYALTY lol

[Cat]

Nicola wrote: "Can i verify this meets 1 book over 600 pages:The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle (using word Bird from People Chapter) is 609 pages. Thanks."

Bird is on the list. If the GR record says 609 then it'll work.

[Melanie]

does 'ass' (slang list) in The Bad-Ass Librarians of Timbuktu: And Their Race to Save the World’s Most Precious Manuscripts work?

[Cat]

Melanie wrote: "does 'ass' (slang list) in The Bad-Ass Librarians of Timbuktu: And Their Race to Save the World’s Most Precious Manuscripts work?"

sorry, no. the hyphenation into a new phrase changes the meaning from the UK to the US.

[Lavender]

I would like to verify this book for the 1 book over 600 pages option:

The Lords of Darkness (Tales from the Flat Earth #1-3) by Tanith Lee



Flat (around the house) is in the subtitle. This is an omnibus edition of a series, so not sure if it would count here or not. (I have some back up options just in case anyway.)

[Cat]

Lavender wrote: "I would like to verify this book for the 1 book over 600 pages option:

The Lords of Darkness (Tales from the Flat Earth #1-3) by Tanith Lee



Flat (around..."

Sorry, Flat is in the series name, not the subtitle (subtitles are after colons, series in brackets), so this won't work, omnibus or not.

[Lavender]

Catherine wrote: "Lavender wrote: "I would like to verify this book for the 1 book over 600 pages option:

The Lords of Darkness (Tales from the Flat Earth #1-3) by Tanith Lee

[bookcover:The Lords of Darkness|19450..."

No problem, I had a couple of back ups anyway. :-)

[Trish]

Catherine wrote: "Book Concierge wrote: "ummmm....Not entirely.... In modern era rugs go on the floor except for travel rugs which are blankets. Carpets are fitted, wall-to-wall, whereas rugs are smaller. Period books are probably looser in that fitted carpets are a modern invention, so would use carpet where we'd say rug now (floor covering), and rug for blanket

Of course, travel rugs are often also picnic rugs - usually made of wool or a wool blend, coloured like tartan, and often with tassles/fringing on two out of four of the edges.

BTW, using the same word twice was fine, wasn't it? I've got two books with "Garden" in the title, which I was thinking of using.

[Cat]

Trish wrote: "BTW, using the same word twice was fine, wasn't it? I've got two books with "Garden" in the title, which I was thinking of using. .."

absolutely fine!

[Trish]

Catherine wrote: "Trish wrote: "BTW, using the same word twice was fine, wasn't it? I've got two books with "Garden" in the title, which I was thinking of using. .."

absolutely fine!"

Cheers

[Kai]

Love this task, Catherine!

[Tawallah]

Would this work for time: Time's Edge?

[Cat]

June wrote: "Would this work for time: Time's Edge?"

Sorry, no. Exact only, so no plurals or possessives

[Katie]

I had initially assumed that we were only to pick the British bold word/or phrase, but since Girl was approved under Bird, I now take that to mean that we could also pick the American equivalent shown in bold under the definition of the British term. Please just verify that that is correct. Thanks.

[Cat]

Katie wrote: "I had initially assumed that we were only to pick the British bold word/or phrase, but since Girl was approved under Bird, I now take that to mean that we could also pick the American equivalent sh..."

If it's in bold, you are ok to use it.

[Sandy, Moderator Emeritus]

Catherine wrote: "Katie wrote: "I had initially assumed that we were only to pick the British bold word/or phrase, but since Girl was approved under Bird, I now take that to mean that we could also pick the American..."

But, PLEASE - if it's not once of the listed British words, indicate what that word is. It's a real pain for me to hunt through every definition, trying to find the word that's being used, when the word is not part of the alphabetical lists.