Classics for Beginners discussion
Have you read a book inspired by a classic?
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I've always felt that North and South, despite being a classic itself, had a lot in common with Pride and Prejudice as well.
I'm waiting for On Beauty to arrive at the library. I've heard it is inspired by Howards End, which I recently finished.
Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad has inspired many books and movies. The one book I have read is A Bend in the River by V.S. Naipaul.
Loretta wrote: "I tend to keep away from books like this. After all, the classic is a classic and shouldn't be tampered with in my opinion. :)"
It is not necessary tampering with the original, but rather using a thought or idea from a book as a springboard for another story. Heart of Darkness has been the inspiration for many books and movies about the evils of imperialism, yet all are different. There are few original ideas in literature.
It is not necessary tampering with the original, but rather using a thought or idea from a book as a springboard for another story. Heart of Darkness has been the inspiration for many books and movies about the evils of imperialism, yet all are different. There are few original ideas in literature.
I have never read a book that was truly original according to your definitions. You are very harsh on writers.

Often, self-published authors get huffy and join the conversation by claiming that it is the only possible formula for a fantasy novel. Joseph Campbell is their go-to authority for this excuse.
Jane Austen, herself, would tell you she was influenced by authors of her day. She created works that were influenced by others, but with a special viewpoint of her own. The books themselves did not come entirely within the recesses of her mind and spring, like Minerva, fully developed.
I actually never said that no writer can have an original thought. I said that I have never read a book that was truly original according to your definitions. Your definition said that any auther who used "any idea from a previous classic as a springboard is an author who is capable of writing English in prose formate, educated in literature but incapable of an independent thought or idea."
One of YOUR examples of an original writer was Jane Austen, yet she was influenced by Fanny Burney, among others: http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/0/21122727. According to your own definition, she is undeserving to being consider an original, classic author.
This discussion began because you said, "I tend to keep away from books like this (books inspired by a classic.) After all, the classic is a classic and shouldn't be tampered with in my opinion." If others want to continue this fruitless conversation, they are welcome to do so.
One of YOUR examples of an original writer was Jane Austen, yet she was influenced by Fanny Burney, among others: http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/0/21122727. According to your own definition, she is undeserving to being consider an original, classic author.
This discussion began because you said, "I tend to keep away from books like this (books inspired by a classic.) After all, the classic is a classic and shouldn't be tampered with in my opinion." If others want to continue this fruitless conversation, they are welcome to do so.

Some great authors are reinterpreting classics. For instance, Margaret Atwood has an re-interpretation of The Tempest coming out this fall which I am dying to read.
I have heard there are really only a few plots. So, I imagine there are really no original books out there any more. I think it's fun to read books where they use a classic as a springboard. Some are just inspired by the classic, some reinterpret it, etc.
Emily -- I hope this conversation isn't fruitless.

Critics also claim Joyce 'borrowed' "stream of consciousness" from a predecessor and that many stylistic techniques - especially the hallucinatory effects in Circe - are 'borrowed' from Flaubert's TEMPTATION.
But, when you read Ulysses you are not likely to be reminded of the Odyssey. (If you have read Temptation you probably will recognize the italicized stage direction technique recycled in Ulysses.) But overall what Joyce is re-using he seems to be re-using it in his own personal way: unique to his needs, for his art.
What was the question? Yes. Ulysses.


Shakespeare wrote very little oroginal material. Maybe only The Midsummer Night's Dream. He sourced his plots and characters from historical accounts and classical texts.
There is also a current rewriting project called The Austen Project that includes authors Alexander McCall-Smith, Curtis Sittenfeld, Joanna Trollope, and Val McDermid.
It was interesting to learn in my Ancient Greek theater class that the great playwrights, like Sophocles and Aeschylus did not create original works, but got their ideas from their ancestors' stories. They would take a myth or legend and rework to create something both familiar and new for their audiences.
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Other books I've read (off the top of my head) inspired by classics were Megan Shepherd trilogy:
1) The Madman’s Daughter inspired by The Island of Dr. Moreau
2) Her Dark Curiosity inspired by The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
3) A Cold Legacy inspired by Frankenstein