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Publisher should not be listed as an author unless there is no other name known, then I would argue the name should be unknown and not the publisher anyway
Paula wrote: "Publisher should not be listed as an author unless there is no other name known, then I would argue the name should be unknown and not the publisher anyway"That is what I have always understood. However, there is a publisher listed - Createspace - in the publisher field. But I disbelieve that.
re: CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform, they are the "publisher of record" for print on demand indie & self pubbers just like lulu.com on demand publishing. They are considered a publisher although non-traditional in that they are a turnkey on demand shop. http://www.abebooks.com/9781508735052...
http://www.amazon.com/Bruges---morte-...
Tal wrote: "re: CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform, they are the "publisher of record" for print on demand indie & self pubbers just like lulu.com on demand publishing. They are considered a publisher..."I believe my question in #1 indicates I am aware of that. They are the Official Publisher, but not the true publisher.
My real question is that since Createspace is the publisher of record, do I ignore the supposition that the other apparent publishers are not publisher and are, in fact, editors, leaving them as an author. Or do I make a strong assumption that those companies as editors are the true publishers and delete them as authors. And if I delete them as authors, is it appropriate to put them in the Editions field.
As someone who as part of a book club has taken public domain works and edited a new edition for printing on demand I fulfilled the role of an editor in the trad pub equivalent setting. My reformatting of the public domain work and design of a custom cover along with a club specific introduction did not make me an author of the new edition, it made me an editor. We used lulu.com to publish the book so I was also not the "true publisher" whatever you define that as. It is very common for public domain reprints to list the originator (instigator, sponsor or what have you) as editor since that is the role they most often fall into. I don't think it matters if it's an individual, a book club or a "company" if the role they had was editing then editor they are. Being an editor doesn't make them an author any more than a narrator is the author of an audiobook. They can only be publishers if they actually did the publishing themselves.
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rivka wrote: "These should not be listed as authors, or editors, unless there is no known author. They can be listed as publishers, in the same way that we generally prefer an imprint in that slot."Thank you, Rivka. This felt "right" but didn't want to move ahead with your stamp of approval.
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I just ran across this "author"...it appears to be another instance of publisher as author. I don't have time to fix them all, so maybe someone else does. ;)https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Hannah wrote: "I just ran across this "author"...it appears to be another instance of publisher as author. I don't have time to fix them all, so maybe someone else does. ;)https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/..."
All titles remaining have Grandma's Treasures as second author, so the author can be deleted.
Abcdarian wrote: "Hannah wrote: "I just ran across this "author"...it appears to be another instance of publisher as author. I don't have time to fix them all, so maybe someone else does. ;)https://www.goodreads.c..."
How does one do that?
It takes staff or a super or someone. Since Rivka drops by, I thought she might notice.
The other way is to simply remove the author from all titles, and an empty author will be deleted by the system.
If they are definitely secondary on all books, Rivka gave permission to post them in the GR authors to merge thread to get her attention to delete.
Krazykiwi wrote: "If they are definitely secondary on all books, Rivka gave permission to post them in the GR authors to merge thread to get her attention to delete."Done.
Re posting publisher secondary authors: Please check and double check that they really are secondary on every book. A quick way is to look at the combine books page. If there are any entries on it, they're primary author on at least one edition of something. We're only allowed to post these "authors" for mass deletion over there, if they really are only secondary authors.
Assimil Centaur Classics
Fb Editions
Hollybook
Kif-e-book
Ligaran
Only Books
Penny Books
Riverside Press
Scribner Press
Shdn Books
Summit Classic Press
Albin Michel https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Assimil https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Ballantine Books https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Blackbirch Press https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Charles River Editors https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Charles Scribner's Sons Publishers https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
DK Publishing https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Fairmont Press https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Forgotten Books ttps://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1425289... - 21,962 distinct works
General Books https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Golden Books https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Houghton Mifflin https://www.goodreads.com/author/show... - 8,363 distinct works
Inchworm Press https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Mark Twain Media https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
McDougal Littell https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Oxford University Press https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Random House https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Rosen Publishing https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Rough Guides https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Western Publishing Company Inc https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Xist Publishing https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
#18 — Fb Editions is secondary; requested merge in GR authors thread: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...ETA: Also in secondary position; requested deletion:
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AmericanExpress https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...Arco Editorial https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Carlton Books UK https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
CBS https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Charta https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Chiswick Press https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Delmar Thomson Learning https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
EDC Publishing https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Famous historians https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Kaplan Inc https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Macmillan Publishing Company https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Michigan Historical Reprint Series https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Muska & Lipman Publishing https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
MVB E Books https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Pasewark Ltd https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Puffin https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Sports Illustrated for Kids https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Wilderness Adventures Press https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Panamericana Editorial https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Dobby0390 wrote: "...requested merge in GR authors thread..." Thank you, I edited my post to mark them as such. I noticed just now that Fb Editions and Hollybook were in Elizabeth's list in message 1.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/author/show..."Requested merge in GR authors thread.
Dobby0390 wrote: "Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/author/show..."Requested merge in GR authors thread."
Thanks, Dobby. As many times as you've posted here, I keep forgetting I can go do that. Some of the publishers as authors are mine of titles that lead to other work, so I'd hate to offer most of the others. On the other hand, there is plenty of work if we all worked full time until 2116, so I guess it doesn't matter.
Ki4ki_b wrote: "editors as authors https://www.goodreads.com/author/show..."Editors can be authors, or is that not what you are indicating?
Ki4ki_b wrote: "editors as authors https://www.goodreads.com/author/show..."I think those are legitimate. They are Wikipedia articles, not the books with the same title.
Maybe Rivka can give a ruling on this one "All of Bookvika's titles are copied from Wikipedia using automated software, usually without any subsequent editing of Wikipedia content. They contain, therefore, material freely available online but packaged between two covers as a book.The two "editors" or "authors" of all Bookvika products were, as of December 2012, Jesse Russell and Ronald Cohn. Amazon.com in the USA listed 185,225 publications by Ronald Cohn.,[1] suggesting this was the current extent of the Bookvika offering."
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Ki4ki_b wrote: "Maybe Rivka can give a ruling on this one "All of Bookvika's titles are copied from Wikipedia using automated software, usually without any subsequent editing of Wikipedia content. They contain, th..."I had to look awhile to find a comment from Rivka on this subject. I think there are others.
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ty for confirmationClarification for why I asked for a definitive answer. There was a librarian note within the author "librarian note: I guess this "author" ought to be deleted together with his "pal" Ronald Cohn and all "their" books which are a shameless scam." I have change the note to state this is valid and put a link to this thread
Tailtiu wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/author/show..."I think that is the author. A legitimate author.
yeah rivka/Elizabeth already confirmed above that wiki source books are still "books" and their authors are valid
Buster Books https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...Flowerpot Press https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Thomas Nelson https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Two Can https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Two Can Editors https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
World Book Inc https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Publishing Ltd Two Can https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
American Tract Society https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Steck-Vaughn Company https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Linguaphone https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Classic Century Works https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Book Sales Inc. https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Reader's Digest Association https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Kids Can Press https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Carson-Dellosa Publishing https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
School Specialty Publishing https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Simplicity Pattern Company https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Prima Publishing https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Origin https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Frank Schaffer Publications https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Gallimard Jeunesse https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
99 Cent Books https://www.goodreads.com/author/show... - non-primary author, but editions have "New Century Edition with DirectLink Technology" which should be stripped
Oxford University https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
All found in one search. Some may be legit:Lion Hudson UK: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Lion UK: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show... (keepsake book acc. to Worldcat; one for NAB'ing?)
UK Comic Books: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Collins UK: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
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I just found this: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...Should publishers be kept as primary authors-editors for various collections? I was thinking that first actual author in the collection (or the one that is first listed on the cover) will do as primary author in such cases (if no actual-human-name editor), but there is librarian note: "Used for the Publisher as Editor of various collections of classic works."
Ayshe wrote: "I just found this: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...Should publishers be kept as primary authors-editors for various collections? I was thinking that first actual au..."
No, should be deleted and work combined where possible as per Post #7 above.
What do we do with the followers of such profiles? I was thinking of merging this: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show... to "Caitlin Drake Smith" but it has 4 followers?
For how the story goes: the merge appears to have been done. Thank you, Tailtiu.
(Some of these are way better detailed than some genuine author profiles: logos as profile picture, blogs, videos...)Bonechi Books: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Creative Teaching Press: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Crown Publishing Group: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
FABBS Foundation https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Frommer's: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Golgotha Press https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Gateway https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Lonely Planet: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Publications International Ltd. https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Rabbit Ears: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Taschen https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Wishing Well https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Worth Publishers https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Lectorum Publications https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
Re #39/40 There are a vanishing few books where we de keep the publisher as editor BUT in all cases that I have come across there has been a Staff notice on the record to indicate this.Re #41 I would say that was the correct process when the "Publisher" is a single author body, but if you / the editing Librarian can add it to the Publisher field before merging that would be best. However if there are multiple authors on that Publisher record, I'd pass it to Rivka for comment first (personal rule).
I think Ploughshares is in the same category although it is GR author: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
All of the existing needs upthread here have been moved to Publisher as Author: General List
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https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...this author has been deletedhttps://www.goodreads.com/author/show...donehttps://www.goodreads.com/author/show...author deletedas examples.
Do these seem more appropriate in the edition field?
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EDIT 7/2/16: added 3 author/publishers
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