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Hiya there! I am Tauriyel! I am a writer, reader, geek, and all sorts of weird. I first read Tolkien when I was seven and started out with the Lord of the Rings, and later watched the films (even though some scenes were so bloody different from the books...oh well.) When I heard that they were going to make the Hobbit into a movie I was so excited. Except one thing. I hadn't read the books! To this day, I've never once read that part of the Middle Earth series, and yet have watched all of the movies. (Aaaah! Benedict is so great as Smaug! *fangirl*) Anyways, people have always asked me "where ever did you get your username from?" Well, Tauriel happens to be one of my favorite characters, that one day I decided to use her name as a handle! But guess what, That username has already been taken! So, I came up with the spin off of Tauriyel and have been using it ever since. Well, that's most of me. Oh! And a quick description of me! I am 5'4", pale, black/red hair, green eyes, and skinnyish (as in sort of skinny and kind of chubby). My favorite games include Skyrim, League of Legends, Dragon Age, and Borderlands! I am on Deviantart and love reading X readers (as well as writing them, but I have terrible writers block.) And that wasn't short at all! *shrug* Oh well! Tauri out!
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Welcome, Tauriyel!
You started with Tolkien quite early ^_^ Movies are always a bit different, which can be forgiven in some cases... I recommend reading The Hobbit, if you're interested.
One of my aliases is Taurendil, which is formed from Quenya.
'taurë' = forest
'-(e)ndil' = friend/lover
Because I like forests, I'm a forest-friend :)
FYI, Tauriel is made up similarly.
'-iel' = daughter
So it is daughter of the forest.
I have an account on DeviantArt but I haven't visited it in a loong time.
Hi! I became a member a few days ago but I forgot to introduce myself. You can call me Silmarien, I'm 22 years old and I come from Greece but I study English Literature in Scotland. When the LOTR movies came out I became a big fan but I never attempted to read the books. I read the Silmarillion for the first time in December 2014 and I fell in love with Tolkien's world. My favourite Elves are the Noldor and it's one of the reason I want to learn Quenya :DHave you guys started learning anything yet?
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Hi and welcome, Silmarien :)
Have you read other literature about Tolkien's world? I'm still in the first chapters of Quenta Silmarillion... We have an exam week right now :P
I did start my Elvish studies around two years ago. But the first year or so was just looking for some web pages, that some I later figured were not Quenya or Sindarin, but their mixture and had errors. Now I know what I can trust.
Last year, I started reading the introduction to the Quenya course on Ardalambion. I completed probably two lessons last summer, one a few weeks ago, and I thought that I'll continue soon. In my opinion, the course is good and even though it has linguistic vocabulary (which I am not very aware of), it is easy to follow. I like the in-depth explanations, so that I can really learn something.
I guess I'm partly interested in the language because it was based on my mother tongue (and a couple of others). I have noticed some similarities, yes, but they still differ a lot.
I am looking forward to the discussions we will have about studying Quenya ^_^
Nice! I have studied much literature about Tolkien. The Silmarillion, LotR, the Hobbit, Unfinished Tales and almost half the History of Middle-earth. Last summer I started studying the first course from Ardalambion about pronunciation and that's all. Hopefully I'll learn more in order to hold beginner's conversation in Quenya :)I only know some fixed sentences and random words now.
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Sounds good ^_^ You're the member with most knowledge of those things then.. My dream, or goal, is to read all of that too.
I hope we'll keep the conversation going. Do you have any idea what kind of topics I should add? Not too many, since the existing ones are not all even used right now. But if you have something in mind, please tell me! I want to improve this group as much as possible.
P.S We have a poll on the group homepage! :)
P.P.S. I made a new topic, Questions and Suggestions. Please comment there if you have any ideas. Thanks!
Hello everyone. My name is Amanda, I'm 20 and Also from Finland and Also studying English (lang & lit). I've read the Hobbit and LotR and I'm 1/3 through a Quenya course by Helge K. Fauskanger. I think it's quite an accurate one and fairly comprehensive. (It's not the one you guys have been learning though?) The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales do sit on my shelves but rn I'm too consumed by ASoIaF to even consider dedicating my life to anything else ripAnyway I like languages and have learned French, Spanish, Latin, and (obv) Swedish, but I'm not particularly interested in their advantages in real life, so there's an appeal to Quenya that transcends the fact that The Elves speak it, that is, its impracticality. I don't really want to learn to speak Quenya, just understand it as fully as possible. As of now I'll try to put some more effort in learning the language & really hope to see some discussion :)
No, wait, it's the same course haha. I just found it somewhere else so I got confused
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Welcome, Amanda! (Tai voisin suoraan vain sanoa: tervetuloa!) ^_^
Great to have a new face in this group :) May I ask you how did you find us?
Are you proceeding well with the course?
I am *still* reading Silmarillion... I don't even know how it's possible considering how much I've loved everything about it. Just get your asoiafs finished and start with this wonderful book :D
Btw, there's a facebook group for chatting in Quenya. I joined it mths ago but I haven't made any comments on there, mainly because I can't write Quenya yet. I'm hoping they don't throw me away before I can.
If you know anyone who might be interested in this group, please tell them about us. We're doing this together!
Hantanyel (kiitos :)) This group was on the Goodreads group frontpage? I'm not sure why..anyway I clicked on it in a heartbeat.I'm proceeding quite well with the course & eager to learn more vocabulary! Haha I've gotten the impression that Silmarillion takes its toll on the reader :D Slow reading is good though. You retain more information when you take your time :)
I don't really go on Facebook but what's the name of the group? If it's not a private group it'd be interesting to see how they manage conversing in Quenya !
Alla! Essenya Almárë ar apárien Quenya an loar neldë. Nan yando i "Cendeleparma"loxessë, mal üas tá mára nin.
(Hi! My name is Almárë and I have studied Quenya for three years. I am also in the Facebook group. I don't like it so much.)
Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo.Um hullo. I saw this group advertised on tumblr and thought I'd give it a go. :)
Soo to introduce myself: I am from Germany and speak english, danish, french and obviously german along with bits and pieces of several other languages like japanese and spanish. I started learning quenya October 2015 when as a joke I was given the book "Elvish for Beginners" in german. They didn't think I'd actually start learning it. XD
I watched the LOTR movies when I was in grade school and had thought they were pretty neat until I more recently rediscovered the whole Tolkien lore for myself. I've now read the LOTR, the Hobbit, Silmarillion and the Unfinished Tales.
Aaaand I chose the name Oloriel (daughter of dreams) because I daydream A LOT and will probably continue to do so.
Oh and I started a tumblr blog a while ago where I post pictures of what I've written in tengwar. When I get bored in university I'll start doodeling in tengwar.
Hope to get along and learn quenya together.
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I'm proceeding quite well with the course & eager to learn more voca..."
The group's name is simply "Quenya Chat", and its' members include eg. H. K. Fauskanger and Petri Tikka.
You're right about The Silm. ^_^
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"Cendeleparma"loxessë, mal üas tá mára nin.
(Hi! My name is Almárë and I have studied Quenya for three years. I am also in the F..."
That's impressive! So "cendele" means face... What is the ü doing there? Welcome to the group, hopefully you'll come to like this one :)
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Um hullo. I saw this group advertised on tumblr and thought I'd give it a go. :)
Soo to introduce myself: I am from Germany and speak english, danish, french and obvi..."
Haha :D Welcome to the group! I must admit I'm a dreamer too. Do you have an Instagram account by any chance? I'm not on tumblr, and I'd like to see the tengwar writings.
Anastasia wrote: "That's impressive! So "cendele" means face... What is the ü doing there? Welcome to the group, hopefully you'll come to like this one :)"I just often use the diereses for vowels other than ë. I always forget for the combination ië though. Doesn't change anything.
Yuhtan i tehtar an in exë ómar. Mal üan enyalë illumë caritas an i sampanë ië.
(Lit: I use the diacritics for the other vowels. But I don't always remember to do it for the combination ië.)
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I just often use the diereses for vowels..."
I haven't noticed before thay they are used with the letter u. Just today (or yesterday) I saw it somewhere else too.
Anastasia wrote: "Haha :D Welcome to the group! I must admit I'm a dreamer too. Do you have an Instagram account by any chance? I'm not on tumblr, and I'd like to see the tengwar writings."Thank you! I got in trouble so often for dreaming. Seemed fitting. :D
I don't, but it is possible to look at my tengwar writings even if you don't have a tumblr account:
http://everythingquenya.tumblr.com/
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Thank ..."
Oh. They do look good ^_^ I like how calligraphy looks, just should practise it more myself..
Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo!soooo first I'll introduce myself;
my name is Rachel and I live in Israel, although I'm actually Canadian.
I'm 14 and fluently speak 3 languages (French being my first language, Hebrew and English).
i was first introduced to the Tolkien world by my brothers who are wayyy older than me (16 and 15 years between me and my brothers) who showed me the LOTR movies at the age of 5.
a few years ago I read The Hobbit and i read LOTR this year. I am also currently reading The Silmarilion and have Unfinished Tales waiting on my book shelf.
a few months ago i decided to study Quenya as I found it very interesting and amazing that a person actually created different languages and used them in books.
up until now I've been doing pretty good downloading a Quenya-English dictionary and purchasing a Quenya Workbook by Ambar Eldaron but it still is pretty hard to learn a language with no one to practice with. i was so happy to find a group that is interested in learning this language like me and even happier to see that it is new and therefore active.
i hope to be able to get better thanks to this group and meet people who are a fascinated by J.R.R. Tolkien as me.
thank you for starting this group and good luck to all of us studying this amazing piece of Tolkien's world!!
Alla, alatulya pitya loxë sinen Quenya-parnoron. (Hello, welcome to this little group of Quenya learners.)
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soooo first I'll introduce myself;
my name is Rachel and I live in Israel, although I'm actually Canadian.
I'm 14 and fluently speak 3 languages (French being my firs..."
It's wonderful to have you here. Welcome!
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Keep up the motivation and joy of learning! Namárië!
Hello everyone! I am a huge huge fan of Tolkien and his works. I am currently a student and I too am a huge fan of equines. I am also taking riding lessons at the moment. I am a writer, i write. fantasy and romance are my strongest.
I absolutely love the Lord of The Rings trilogy and The Hobbit as well and i really hope that there would be more of such films in the near future.
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I am a huge huge fan of Tolkien and his works. I am currently a student and I too am a huge fan of equines. I am also taking riding lessons at the moment. I am a writer, i write. ..."
Welcome to the group! Which of Tolkien's works have you read? And have you learned any Quenya yet?
Anastasia wrote: "Oloriel wrote: "Anastasia wrote: "Haha :D Welcome to the group! I must admit I'm a dreamer too. Do you have an Instagram account by any chance? I'm not on tumblr, and I'd like to see the tengwar wr..."I know what you mean. XD My brother is studying graphic design and has to do a lot of calligraphy and he gave me quite a few pointers on how to do it properly. Then you just have to practice.
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That is true. Maybe I'll master it someday :)
Hi, my name is Caleb, but for the sake of the internet I usually go by Cal. I just recently graduated from high school to find my days full of free time that's hard to fill with variable forms of entertainment until I've saved up enough for college. I grew up reading fantasy books and playing similar games and only just recently stumbled across the knowledge that one of the most famous book series of 'relative' closeness to our generation held learnable languages that I couldn't help but give one a try. I currently know absolutely NOTHING of Quenya as a language as I've only read a few of Tolkien's works, and even then several years ago, so I don't remember much. I'm also not much with languages after the train wreck of a trial my Spanish class was; Therefore, I'd like to apologize for my essential uselessness when it comes to joining this group.
All that said, I'm so glad I managed to find this website. I figured it would be so much easier, not to mention more fun, to study such a language in a group. I suppose I'll begin with the reading of the Silmarillion, as per instructions of the already helpful group rules list, as well as some other works. I've also made a list of hyperlinks to help me translate and study English to Quenya as well as study the written form of language, which is far more complex than imagined.
Again, it's a pleasure to be able to join such an open group when I figured there wouldn't even be an active one left on the whole of the internet. I hope to learn much and eventually contribute to other learners. -sorry for text block
All that said, I'm so glad I managed to find this website. I figured it would be so much easier, not to mention more fun, to study such a language in a group. I suppose I'll begin with the reading of the Silmarillion, as per instructions of the already helpful group rules list, as well as some other works. I've also made a list of hyperlinks to help me translate and study English to Quenya as well as study the written form of language, which is far more complex than imagined.
Again, it's a pleasure to be able to join such an open group when I figured there wouldn't even be an active one left on the whole of the internet. I hope to learn much and eventually contribute to other learners. -sorry for text block
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Hi, Cal! It's good you decided to join our little group. Welcome ^_^
I might know a bit more Quenya than you, maybe, but my knowledge is not very broad either. I hope we'll do something together to improve all our members' language skills.
What do you mean with the following: "one of the most famous book series of 'relative' closeness to our generation"?
You won't regret reading The Silm. The stories will explain things you've wondered and even more things you've never thought of. I can't force anyone read it but it's in the rules because it is recommendable.
We are really just starting here, since nothing big has been arranged. Please take a look at the rest of the discussions and see if you'll come up with a suggestion.
Thanks, and hopefully you'll enjoy spending time here!
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There are several Quenya courses on the internet and none of them are made by us. You are free to use any course that you find suitable.
I myself will be busy until this summer since I have my final exams. But I'll try to visit here now and then. And I hope I can be more active after the exams.
Hopefully you'll enjoy this group even though there's not much happening yet. Share your ideas so we can grow! :)
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Thanks.
Quenya Learners
Books mentioned in this topic
The Hobbit, or There and Back Again (other topics)The Lord of the Rings (other topics)
The Silmarillion (other topics)
Tales from the Perilous Realm (other topics)
Let me introduce myself. I am a young girl/woman from the northern lands in Europe. My mother tongue is Finnish. I also speak some Swedish and understand a few others, such as German and Norwegian. I am very interested in languages, as you can see, and Quenya is only one of those that I want to learn. I translated my title *Cuilewendë* (life-maiden) from my second name.
The first book I ever read by Tolkien was The Hobbit when I was around 10-12 years old. It didn't have much of an impact on me then. Later in my mid-teens after I had read The Lord of the Rings I became more interested in these characters and the fascinating world. Now, in March 2016, I am reading The Silmarillion. I've also read Tales from the Perilous Realm with Farmer Giles of Ham, Roverandom, Leaf by Niggle, Adventures of Tom Bombadil plus some other poems, the Smith of Wootton Major, and Tolkien's essay On Fairy-Stories. I am on my way on educating me more on the history and cultures of Arda.
See you around and please leave something about yourself for others! Namárië, meldonyar!