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Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Heather wrote: "oh, question! There was nothing in the post that I saw about it, but are manga and/or graphic novels allowed?"No, sorry. It might be easiest to think that those books that would n..."
understandable. Another question, then. How would anthologies work or would they be acceptable at all? I'm looking at Monkey Brain Sushi for Japan on the Sea of Japan- https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
Heather wrote: "Another question, then. How would anthologies work or would they be acceptable at all?"We usually require all of the authors to qualify for the task. This anthology is fine because Birnbaum isn't really an author, but an editor/translator. All of the true authors are Japanese.
I'm confused about Vladimir Nabokov. I thought he was an American citizen. The Authors List spreadsheet has him as Russia/Russia and not non-Western. I'm trying to figure out if I can use him for Russia.ETA: nevermind, time for new glasses.
D wrote: "I'm confused about Vladimir Nabokov. I thought he was an American citizen. The Authors List spreadsheet has him as Russia/Russia and not non-Western. I'm trying to figure out if I can..."I'm sorry for the confusion. I know there are errors in the list and I appreciate members finding them. I have corrected Nabokov to Russian/USA. But remember, if the book setting is Russia, you can use the book for WotW, and early Nabokov was originally written/published in Russian, so you may be OK with him depending on the title.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "D wrote: "I'm confused about Vladimir Nabokov. I thought he was an American citizen. The Authors List spreadsheet has him as Russia/Russia and not non-Western. I'm trying to figure ou..."I wanted to read Pnin, but it is set in the U.S., so I think I'm out of luck for using it for Russia.
(Glad to know I didn't misread Nabokov; when I looked back and saw Russia/USA, I thought I was going nuts!
Also, is Denmark/Denmark correct for Sigrid Undset? I thought it might be Denmark/Norway.
D wrote: "Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "D wrote: "I'm confused about Vladimir Nabokov. I thought he was an American citizen. The Authors List spreadsheet has him as Russia/Russia and not non-Weste..."I'll fix her too.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "D wrote: "Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "D wrote: "I'm confused about Vladimir Nabokov. I thought he was an American citizen. The Authors List spreadsheet has him as Russia/Russia and not..."Thanks, Elizabeth. I'm having one of my foggier days and just wanted to double check.
I'm really glad that the list is proving helpful to all of us and that all of you looking at it can provide needed corrections.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "I'm really glad that the list is proving helpful to all of us and that all of you looking at it can provide needed corrections."The list is extremely helpful and I appreciate your posting it.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "I'm really glad that the list is proving helpful to all of us and that all of you looking at it can provide needed corrections."Another one - according to Wikipedia, Sergei Lukanyenko is Khazak born, Russian National.
Also, to add to the confusion - Arkady Strugatski was Georgian born, Boris Strugatski was Russian born - both were Soviet Russian nationals - and almost all of their work was collaborative. There are very few books written by only one or the other.
Heather wrote: "Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "I'm really glad that the list is proving helpful to all of us and that all of you looking at it can provide needed corrections."Another one - according to Wikipedia, Se..."
Fixed Lukanyenko
As to the Strugatski brothers, I see these are always a collaborative effort. We have taken to linking just Arkady to the books because ... well, just because. Is the setting of their work nearly always Russia? If so, they work for WotW. If we have another future task where Russian born is a requirement, please ask they be included.
Chitra Banerjee Divakaruni is listed as India/Uganda. I think it should be India/USA. Maybe I'm missing something?
Joanna wrote: "Chitra Banerjee Divakaruni is listed as India/Uganda. I think it should be India/USA. Maybe I'm missing something?"Well the Uganda thing is clearly wrong. Sometimes I can claim ignorance, but ...
Although she is listed as Indian-American in many places, I cannot see where/how she has US citizenship (and I looked in several places). I will correct to India, but if someone can find a place where she became a US citizen (or her parent was a US citizen and therefore didn't need to nationalize), I'll be glad to fix that.
Anthony C. Winkler is listed as Jamaica/Jamaica, and his novels are set in Jamaica. Possibly he should be Jamaica/USA. I'm not sure how to verify his citizenship, but I had read that he lived and was a college professor in the U.S. Sadly, I located his obituary, which confirms he emigrated to the U.S. at age 21. I love his books, they are hilarious, and didn't know that he had died recently:http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/atla...
Could you please take a look at Brother, I'm Dying by Edwidge Danticat?Previously, this had been found to be YA at BPL, but I don't see it shelved that way any more.
D wrote: "Anthony C. Winkler is listed as Jamaica/Jamaica, and his novels are set in Jamaica. Possibly he should be Jamaica/USA. I'm not sure how to verify his citizenship, but I had read that..."This is another where, though he lived in the US for some time, I don't find a reference to his becoming a US citizen. I found one reference where he refers to Jamaica as his mother, the US as his stepmother. Unless you can find a US citizenship reference, we'll leave him as Jamaica/Jamaica.
Joanna wrote: "Could you please take a look at Brother, I'm Dying by Edwidge Danticat?Previously, this had been found to be YA at BPL, but I don't see it shelved that way any more."
I don't see it either - I'll make sure the YA status is removed from the database.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "D wrote: "Anthony C. Winkler is listed as Jamaica/Jamaica, and his novels are set in Jamaica. Possibly he should be Jamaica/USA. I'm not sure how to verify his citizenship, but I had..."Sounds good to me, I didn't have any reason to want it changed. I've never been clear about when residency trumps citizenship for RWS purposes. Since he lived in the US for 50 years, I wasn't sure if that would be sufficient. I agree, particularly having read a few of his books, that his heart remained in Jamaica. I have The Painted Canoe on my itinerary for Jamaica.
D wrote: "Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "I've never been clear about when residency trumps citizenship for RWS purposes."Sometimes we simply don't know a person's birthplace or their citizenship, but we know their residency and in those cases our entry is based on residency, though citizenship might be the same. (There are several of these latter in the New to Us Authors this season.)
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "D wrote: "Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "I've never been clear about when residency trumps citizenship for RWS purposes."Sometimes we simply don't know a person's birthplace or their citizenship, but..."
Thanks for the explanation, that makes sense!
Joseph Roth is listed as Ukraine/Ukraine but the town in the Ukraine was Austrian-Hungarian Empire at the time (and Wikipedia identifies him as Austrian) ..... so, just wanted to make sure there is no risk of the "Ukraine/Ukraine" status changing.
Ed wrote: "Joseph Roth is listed as Ukraine/Ukraine but the town in the Ukraine was Austrian-Hungarian Empire at the time (and Wikipedia identifies him as Austrian) ..... so, just wanted to make sure there is..."Sorry for the delay in responding - sometimes conferences and finding thinking caps takes a bit longer.
The GR profile information deceived me. Joseph Roth is definitely Austrian, but we're going to leave him in the Ukraine for Spring/WotW and change him for summer and subsequent seasons.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Ed wrote: "Joseph Roth is listed as Ukraine/Ukraine but the town in the Ukraine was Austrian-Hungarian Empire at the time (and Wikipedia identifies him as Austrian) ..... so, just wanted to make su..."Ok...that works for me...thanks.
Italo Svevo isn't on the list, and I'm not 100% sure if he works for Italy since the city he was born in was technically in Austria at the time, and same with the setting of the novel.
Sam wrote: "Italo Svevo isn't on the list, and I'm not 100% sure if he works for Italy since the city he was born in was technically in Austria at the time, and same with the setting of the novel."We will record him as Austria/Italy. (I hope that helps.)
It doesn't help with fitting him for Italy, but it's good to know! :P Luckily I have a few options for Italian authors on my shelves!
No question here. Just a comment. I have been trying to read Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter, which is a Nobel Prize winner for the Amazon Basin for several weeks. I am just not interested. I have decided to DNF this book. (I have only done that a handful of times.) What a struggle it has been to give up on a book.I have replaced it with a book set in Brazil.
ETA: It was a Nobel Prize not a Pulitzer Prize.
Bea wrote: "No question here. Just a comment. I have been trying to read Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter, which is a Pulitzer Prize winner for the Amazon Basin for several weeks. I am just not in..."I've enjoyed South American fiction if there is just a little magical realism. But I've given up on some books with too much of it. Everyone has their favorite genres so don't feel bad about occasionally DNF, Bea.
Connie wrote: "I've enjoyed South American fiction if there is just a little magical realism. But I've given up on some books with too much of it. Everyone has their favorite genres so don't feel bad about occasionally DNF, Bea."No magical realism that I could see, but I did not read very far. I think, for me, it was the style of the writing.
Would Voices from Chernobyl: The Oral History of a Nuclear Disaster by Svetlana Alexievich work for Belarus?
Coralie wrote: "Would Voices from Chernobyl: The Oral History of a Nuclear Disaster by Svetlana Alexievich work for Belarus?"We have Alexievich as Ukraine/Belarus. What I read of the location of Chernobyl is that it is/was in The Ukraine. I don't know if her book actually takes place there, nor if it is 75% as per the requirement.
My knowledge of geography (particularly that part of the world) is pretty slight. I am quite happy to go with Ukraine.
Coralie wrote: "My knowledge of geography (particularly that part of the world) is pretty slight. "Well, I don't want to come off as some sort of geography expert. Google is my everlasting friend. ;-)
I hope Ukraine does work for this. I'll be happy to learn of your impression of it.
Should Australia be included in the Indian ocean?
Coralie wrote: "Should Australia be included in the Indian ocean?"Yes, it should have been on the spreadsheet, which mistake I will now rectify.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Coralie wrote: "Should Australia be included in the Indian ocean?"Yes, it should have been on the spreadsheet, which mistake I will now rectify."
Thank you.
I was thinking of using this book for France:
Five Weeks in a Balloon (1863) by Jules Verne; translated from the French by William Lackland; (Paperback, 308 pages)
It is not present in the BPL; it does not have a Lexile score; and one of the genres is "Childrens"; however, it reads at the level of Verne's other adventure tales. Could I use this book for the sub-challenge? Thanks!
Deedee wrote: "I was thinking of using this book for France:Five Weeks in a Balloon (1863) by Jules Verne; translated from the French by..."
If the book isn't shelved at BPL, it doesn't come under the Lexile rule. Is that what you're asking? (I see it in Russian and French, but no YA/juvenile shelving.)
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No, sorry. It might be easiest to think that those books that would not be allowed to have style points in the RwS tasks are not allowed at all on a sub-challenge.