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message 201: by Caecilia (new)

Caecilia Saori you know what I realized when picking books for the Toppler shelf? how much I AM actually, reading "outside the box".

particularly novels that give insights into mental problems, discrimination backgrounds, human thoughts and feelings ... the majority of books I am reading, ARE .. telling deeper stories.

those light reads like rosie project et al / yes, I do them. but rarely.


message 202: by Sam F (last edited Feb 15, 2016 03:45AM) (new)

Sam F | 246 comments I love these kinds of books as well and either have read many of the suggestions or don't have them. I've requested a few from the library, but I am worried they won't get here in time.

I wondered if Out of the Silent Planet might be ok. The goodreads description doesn't do this classic justice. On the back of the book it says "More than a brilliantly imaginative picture of life on another world - Out of the Silent Planet mirrors the inhumanities of man and contrasts a civilization of harmony and peace with the discord of Earth today."

Let me know what you think. It's a short, but long enough read, which might mean some of the library books will arrive before the week is done.


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jaxnsmom | 8341 comments Sam F wrote: "I love these kinds of books as well and either have read many of the suggestions or don't have them. I've requested a few from the library, but I am worried they won't get here in time.

I wondere..."


Sorry, but I read a synopsis of the plot and it sounds like it doesn't qualify.


message 204: by Sarah (last edited Feb 15, 2016 08:06AM) (new)

Sarah (sarahlou29) | 1302 comments Casceil wrote: "There is controversy about any attempt to make organ donation compulsory because it would go against the religious beliefs of many people."

I was going to say this, my mom and step-dad are Jehovah Witnessess and they don't donate or take blood. So when my mom had breast cancer, she was prepared to not take any blood if things went wrong. It was bloody scary.

I personally wouldn't give blood, as I faint at the sight of it and hate needles I just couldn't do it =/


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jaxnsmom | 8341 comments Sarah wrote: "I personally wouldn't give blood, as I faint at the sight of it and hate needles I just couldn't do it =/ "

I know several people who can't because of fear. I have a friend who has to go to the doctor with her daughter whenever she has to have blood drawn. She gets so anxious that they can't calm her down enough, or she passes out while it's being drawn.


message 206: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments jaxnsmom wrote: "Sarah wrote: "I personally wouldn't give blood, as I faint at the sight of it and hate needles I just couldn't do it =/ "

I know several people who can't because of fear. I have a friend who has t..."


I used to be one of those people. I think I've mentioned it before. I'd basically turn in to a toddler, throw tantrums, cry, have a panic attack, become a jibbering wreck or if I was lucky, just go pale and faint. I say lucky because at least I'm unconscious and don't have to feel as embarrassed as I did with the other reactions I had. Then when I trained to be a hypnotherapist, as part of the training we worked on phobias on each other. And I overcome my fear. And then I booked in to give blood for the first time. I was well chuffed. I'm still fine with needles, blood was never a problem for me.


message 207: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (ylisa7) | 208 comments When I was younger I had no trouble giving blood. I have gotten wimpier as I've gotten older, lol. I can still do it but I don't watch the bag or needle anymore.


I also can't handle carnival rides as well as I used.


We all have things that we cannot do like that. My stepdaughter can't swallow any kinds of pills.


message 208: by Rusalka, Moderator (last edited Feb 16, 2016 04:29AM) (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments I couldn't swallow tablets for about 19 years. Even tiny tiny ones like the pill. I had a really bad year of bronchitis, then tonsillitis, then sinusitis, then laryngitis. So I got to the stage of gagging of antibiotics broken open into yoghurt and eaten. I just had to force myself to swallow them.

If I do it wrong even now, I gag and gag on any size tablets. But it bloody well goes down.


message 209: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (ylisa7) | 208 comments Rusalka wrote: "I couldn't swallow tablets for about 19 years. Even tiny tiny ones like the pill. I had a really bad year of bronchitis, then tonsillitis, then sinusitis, then laryngitis. So I got to the stage of ..."


My husband has a gag reflex and when he goes for impressions at the dentist they spray throat spray(?) in his throat before they do it. It numbs his throat. Maybe that would help when people need to swallow big pills.

I think you can also get liquid form for a lot of pills today.


message 210: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Here we give liquid forms to kids. Even at 12, it was embarrassing to ask for liquid form.

I had bracers for 4 years (long story). When they removed them, they took an impression for my plate. I gagged the whole time. The nurse sat with me trying to calm me, and I tried. I kept my jaw shut the entire time so the cast was perfect but I retched and retched.

They removed the plaster/mould and there was a long trail of it that had gone down my throat. About a good 10 cms or so. They had made it too runny. Both the nurse and ortho were like "Ooohhhh... hmm, sorry?". Jerks.


message 211: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (ylisa7) | 208 comments Rusalka wrote: "Here we give liquid forms to kids. Even at 12, it was embarrassing to ask for liquid form.

I had bracers for 4 years (long story). When they removed them, they took an impression for my plate. I g..."


That stinks. They don't realize how that can affect you into adulthood. Children's doctors and dentists should be so much more competent and caring. Yeah….jerks.


My stepdaughter swallowed her crown at the dentists about 2 years ago.


message 212: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments I also found it difficult to swallow pills when I was younger. Now I still have problems with certain ones. It's not necessarily the size, but more the structure/shape of it I think. Regular paracetamol and similar pills I find very hard, but things like ibuprofen (which is bigger but smoother somehow) are no problem. And the more oval-shaped pills are no problem either.

Don't mind needles or drawing blood.


message 213: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lisathebooklover) | 9244 comments I struggle to swallow round pills. Whenever I have paracetamol, I always take the caplets as I find them much easier to get down.

I absolutely hate needles and blood tests.


message 214: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments We don't go to different doctors when we are kids. You go to your local general practitioner. They treat you, your parents, and your grandparents, and beyond. Some have wonderful social skills, others do not ;)


message 215: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments With you Peggy. Size, shape and coating makes a huge difference!


message 216: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11263 comments Rusalka wrote: "They removed the plaster/mould and there was a long trail of it that had gone down my throat. About a good 10 cms or so. They had made it too runny. Both the nurse and ortho were like "Ooohhhh... hmm, sorry?". Jerks."

Oh, my Gosh... sounds like a terrible experience for a kid!


message 217: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11263 comments Lisa wrote: "Children's doctors and dentists should be so much more competent and caring. Yeah….jerks."

That's so true! I have had the urge of punch in the face more than one doctor attending one of my kids...


message 218: by Anna (new)

Anna Kļaviņa (annamatsuyama) | 1355 comments Question.

Would Witches, a tale of Scandal, Sorcery and Seduction better fit to religion or genocide ?


message 219: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Rusalka wrote: "We don't go to different doctors when we are kids. You go to your local general practitioner. They treat you, your parents, and your grandparents, and beyond. Some have wonderful social skills, oth..."

Same here. I remember that when I was a kid, our GP smoked cigars in his office, while seeing patients. It seemed very normal back then (smelly though) because smoking (cigarettes) was so common and my parents smoked too. But thinking of it now it's just weird.

My lactose intolerance pills are only available in paracetamol-like form. And I need to swallow two or three. You don't want to know how often I've stood gagging above the sink because I just can't get them down. I don't like having to take them in a restaurant. They've started to lose their effectiveness anyway, so I just stay clear of milky stuff when going out for dinner.


message 220: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments I guess it doesn't matter Anna if it fits more than one category, as long as it fits one category. We haven't got to cover all tasks this toppler so choose which you think it fits best with. A couple of the books i have planned cover religion, politics and race. I figure, I'll know which one is the main focus when I'm reading it.


message 221: by KimeyDiann (new)

KimeyDiann | 2174 comments My husband has a needle problem too. He has passed out on more than one occasion when having blood drawn. He has almost passed out on a few occasions when someone else was having blood drawn or being given a shot or IV. But the ironic thing with him is that he has lots of tattoos. I don't know why those needles don't bother him.


message 222: by KimeyDiann (new)

KimeyDiann | 2174 comments I just received a copy of The Best Bad Luck I Ever Had in the mail today. I had forgotten that I requested it and it just so happens to fit this toppler challenge as it deals with race relations in 1917 Alabama. Even though the book is a work of fiction, it was inspired by true events of the author's family.

I still think I want to find a non-fiction book to read though as that is the most outside my box genre. I'm just having a really hard time finding something that catches my eye that I think will hold my interest.


message 223: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11263 comments Sounds good, Kimey. Added. Looking forward to your rate and review.


message 224: by Bella (new)

Bella | 502 comments KimeyDiann wrote: "I just received a copy of The Best Bad Luck I Ever Had in the mail today. I had forgotten that I requested it and it just so happens to fit this toppler challenge as it deals with ra..."

If you're looking for a non-fiction title on that topic and in that time period, Never Been a Time: The 1917 Race Riot That Sparked the Civil Rights Movement by Harper Barnes. The ebook is on sale right now for $1.99 at Amazon and B&N- just picked it up myself.


message 225: by Ava Catherine (last edited Feb 16, 2016 07:35AM) (new)

Ava Catherine | 4258 comments May I read Nineteen Minutes by Jodi Picoult? It is about the effects of bullying on a child and how a town deals with the emotional impact of a school shooting.


message 226: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59905 comments Connie (Ava Catherine) wrote: "May I read Nineteen Minutes by Jodi Picoult? It is about the effects of bullying on a child and how a town deals with the emotional impact of a school shooting."

Sounds like it fits to me.


message 228: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (ylisa7) | 208 comments Thanks Anna….some good ones there.


message 229: by Lori Z (new)

Lori Z | 2086 comments Jaxnsmom, can more than 1 teammate read the same book? I know in past topplers we could but just want to make sure it applies to this one.


message 230: by jaxnsmom (new)

jaxnsmom | 8341 comments Anna wrote: "Question.

Would Witches, a tale of Scandal, Sorcery and Seduction better fit to religion or genocide ?"


I don't see where it really fits either. I saw that you have a long list of other possibilities, so one of those would be better.


message 231: by jaxnsmom (new)

jaxnsmom | 8341 comments Lori Z wrote: "Jaxnsmom, can more than 1 teammate read the same book? I know in past topplers we could but just want to make sure it applies to this one."

Yep, it applies this time too.


message 232: by Lori Z (new)

Lori Z | 2086 comments Thanks Jaxnsmom!


message 233: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments jaxnsmom wrote: "Anna wrote: "Question.

Would Witches, a tale of Scandal, Sorcery and Seduction better fit to religion or genocide ?"

I don't see where it really fits either. I saw that you have a..."


I can see Anna's reasoning, and just explaining how I see it (Anna, please correct me if I'm wrong):
Witches = a religion
Witches being hunted/tormented/killed = genocide of a religion, could be argued as a gender as well seeing independant or different women were accused and killed for being "witches"

Not disputing, just explaining how I see how it fits.


message 234: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments That was my reasoning too Rusalka. You beat me to it :-)


message 235: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments I'm usually behind!


message 236: by Anna (new)

Anna Kļaviņa (annamatsuyama) | 1355 comments Yes, that was my reasoning as wel.


message 237: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (sarahlou29) | 1302 comments jaxnsmom wrote: "I know several people who can't because of fear. I have a friend who has to go to the doctor with her daughter whenever she has to have blood drawn."

Yes, I do fear seeing blood, anyone's blood, funny thing is when I see animals in pain or bleeding I can go to their rescue lol but human blood I can't do it.

KimeyDiann wrote: "My husband has a needle problem too. He has passed out on more than one occasion when having blood drawn. He has almost passed out on a few occasions when someone else was having blood drawn or bei..."

I'm like this too, I pass out when other people are having injections or blood drawn =/ My bf cut his finger a few weeks ago, ever so small a cut and I felt so dizzy I had to quickly go lie down and elevate my legs.

Interestingly, I can watch people get tattoos and would like one at some point, I suppose because it's not exactly drawing blood out in a syringe perhaps.


message 238: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (ylisa7) | 208 comments This is a freebie today on Amazon for your kindle:

I Just Wanted Love: Recovery of a Codependent, Sex and Love Addict


message 239: by [deleted user] (last edited Feb 19, 2016 12:06PM) (new)

Thanks, Lisa. I bought it just in case I decide to tackle it. Thankfully it is a short book. :)


Theresa~OctoberLace (octoberlace) | 1090 comments Jaxsnmom, the Toppler starts today, and I was really hoping you'd post some scoring info. Are teams just scored on the number of books read, or are there other criteria that might influence my book choices?


message 241: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11263 comments Happy toppler everyone!


message 242: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Remember, if you are social media-ing about the Toppler, use the hashtag #tbrtoppler on your photos, tweets and whatnots so we can find you and have a squizz!


message 243: by Caecilia (new)

Caecilia Saori Happy Toppler-time to all avidly reading members :-)
as I am in Europe, I need to wait a few more hours, but having my books ready

.. and even found an additional great Toppler book some hours ago, in my local bookstore.


message 244: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments We all start at the same time Caecilia. No matter where we are.

So look up when 12pm EST is for you.

I believe we all have 3 hours, but confirm your own timezone for you.


message 245: by jaxnsmom (new)

jaxnsmom | 8341 comments Theresa, I posted it somewhere, but I don't have a clue where. It's possible that it was in a dream :)

There will be 10 points for each book read, and 10 bonus points for completing the following: To be added in a bit


message 246: by Caecilia (new)

Caecilia Saori Toppler reading time starts now.. happy reading to everyone :-)


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