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message 1: by Not_Your_Typical_Lannister (Leslie), Not_Your_Typical_Lannister (new)

Not_Your_Typical_Lannister (Leslie)   | 1283 comments Mod
32 Arya III- Discuss only this chapter and anything prior


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Ritika (rittika) | 12 comments *Spoiler* I don't know if this is a spoiler/mystery or not so I'm being safe.

The two people ARYA hears in the dungeons have to be Varys and Illyrio. GRRM gives small hints like,

Illyrio - Liquid accent of free cities, forked yellow beard, grossly fat, wearing rings
Varys - A stout man, his feet seemed to glide soundlessly over the ground, something oddly familiar about him.

It also seems as if Illyrio is suggesting that Varys kill Ned and also help DANY be queen. But why?


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Brianna (bebecburt) | 562 comments thoughts while reading:
This black cat they're talking about is kind of my hero. lol
I would've never thought that the Red Keep is smaller than Winterfell.
I feel like this scene with the two strangers is very... prophetic? Definitely foreshadowing!
"If one Hand can die, why not a second?... You have danced the dance before, my friend." (view spoiler)
"And now his wife [Catelyn] has abducted Tyrion Lannister, thanks to Littlefinger's meddling." Tyrion must not be guilty of what she's accusing him of!


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Omar Foster | 44 comments I agree it has to be Illyrio and Varys by the descriptions given and more information I've learnt later in the books.
But Why was Varys helping Ned in his last chapter if he is now talking about killing him.


message 5: by Brianna (new)

Brianna (bebecburt) | 562 comments I think that's part of Varys's mystique. It's hard to say who he's really rooting for. He doesn't seem to be straightforward about much.


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