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February 2016 Challenge - Books by the Numbers
My current plan is to read "White Magic Five and Dime." (Linking isn't working right now.) I have been assuming that "five" counts as a number, but "dime" doesn't. Are words such as "none" and "dozen" treated as numbers for this challenge?
Apparently I was posting my question as Janice was posting the answer. So, we go with the uncomplicated directions as originally posted.
Sarah wrote: "So i guess (from reading your msg30) that you're not counting "half" as a number (as in 0.5)? Or are we just using whole numbers? I have a couple books with half in the title. Also, can a number be..."Ack! Can a number be hyphenated? Yes.
CFDeeDee wrote: "So I guess Five Quarters of the Orange wouldn't work ? I'll keep searching for a different book."Yes, this book will fit the challenge simply because Five is a separate word.
Technically, it isn't even a fraction since it represents five pieces of the orange. It's not 5/4 of an orange.
Rusalka wrote: "While the five quarters is a fraction, you could ignore the word quarters and just go for a straight number five.That's what I would do."
Exactly - ignore "quarters"
Kristie wrote: "Not to complicate things, but if words, such as none, are allowed, then would words such as dozen count? None and dozen aren't actually numbers, but we know that they represent a number. If yes, th..."Cardinal and ordinal numbers only - so "none" and "dozen" won't work.
Sarah, you'll need to scratch "And then there were none" off your list.
Janice wrote: "Kristie wrote: "Not to complicate things, but if words, such as none, are allowed, then would words such as dozen count? None and dozen aren't actually numbers, but we know that they represent a nu..."That's what I thought. Thanks, Janice. I have plenty of other options, I just need to decide. :)
Ok got it .. One more thing ..While counting points if I got 18, I would add 1+8=9 .. But what if I got 10? 1+0= 1 point only ?
Sorry for overcomplicating things Janice. I'll update my post when I can.
Sarah wrote: "I have:Six of Crows
A Thousand Nights
Would The 5th Wave be okay?"
You should read Six of Crows! I loved this book!
I have many books which could fit the challenge... but I´m not sure I'll join in... I wasn't able even to finish THIS month's challenge...
Cherie wrote: "Janice - the example of how you scored the number for my book title is what I assumed for the hyphenated word twenty-one. I think I understand about the word count your way, but to be sure: If my book title were One Thousand Souls. It would be 2 words because "one thousand" is a number. Right?..."I think this is not right Cherie, I know Janice has approved it, but... would it not be "One Thousand Souls" 3 words? (instead of 2?). I understood that when the number was written in words, each number/word counts
Or am I truly, deeply confused??
Sorry in advance for the meddling...
Boy, Janice. I feel for you! Such a simple concept. "Read a book with a number in the title." I can see why you and Rusalka want to skip counting stuff sometimes.
Kristie wrote: "Not to complicate things, but if words, such as none, are allowed, then would words such as dozen count? None and dozen aren't actually numbers, but we know that they represent a number. If yes, th..."I don't think none is a number, Kristie. (Well, it implicitly means 0/zero, but that is not an ordinal number, it is a place holder. It has to be a real number. A dozen, though would be twelve. IMO, but I will bow to Janice on that one. She already said no to a half or quarter because they are fractions.
Sarah - it looks to me like all of your titles would apply except Patient Zero.
Janice wrote: "Gee, why am I surprised that you picked that book over all others? LOL! ..."The amazing thing is that I decided on the title before I even looked at the scoring.
Mariab wrote: "Cherie wrote: "Janice - the example of how you scored the number for my book title is what I assumed for the hyphenated word twenty-one. I think I understand about the word count your way, but to b..."It confused me at first too, Mariab, but essentially she was counting my "Two Hundred" as one word instead of two, so One Thousand would be one word and Souls the second, just like twenty-one is one word and Baker Streets is two words, and my book title is 4 words. That is what I got out of her explaining and why I gave the examples for her to approve the thinking.
So, if it were printed as 1000 Souls, it would be 2 words.
I guess one could say that Two Hundred was 200 and twenty-one is 21, So 200 and 21 Baker Streets. If the "and" did not separate them it would be 221 Baker Streets and that would be 3 words. However, even though the "and" does not count, it separates the numbers into two words.
Sarah wrote: "I have:Six of Crows
A Thousand Nights
Would The 5th Wave be okay?"
I think she forgot to say that The 5th Wave would count in her zeal to tell you to read Six of Crows, Sarah. LOL!
lol. I've heard it's a very good book =] Maybe I shall have to read it for this challenge >.<
Crikey, this is all making my head hurt. I think I'll read Six of Crows so I can copy someone else's scoring lol.
Cherie wrote: "Boy, Janice. I feel for you! Such a simple concept. "Read a book with a number in the title." I can see why you and Rusalka want to skip counting stuff sometimes."Sometimes my brain just can't cope :P
Janice - would zero count as it is a number, but not none as it's a term not a number?
Cherie wrote: "she was counting my "Two Hundred" as one word instead of two, so One Thousand would be one word and Souls the second, just like twenty-one is one word..."I thought only hyphenated words count as one word
So:
200 = one word
two hundert = two words
twenty-one (hypenathed) = one word
CFDeeDee wrote: "Ok got it .. One more thing ..While counting points if I got 18, I would add 1+8=9 .. But what if I got 10? 1+0= 1 point only ?"
You have it correctly. That's how we mix things up. Twisted Meany Moderator here. :)
Sarah wrote: "Sorry for overcomplicating things Janice. I'll update my post when I can."Nope, you're good. You didn't overcomplicate things. :)
Sarah wrote: "I have:Six of Crows
A Thousand Nights
Would The 5th Wave be okay?"
Yes, 5th is an ordinal number.
Janice wrote: "Sarah, you'll need to scratch "And then there were none" off your list...."Or just find a copy of Ten Little Indians, it's the same book. :)
Mariab wrote: "I think this is not right Cherie, I know Janice has approved it, but... would it not be "One Thousand Souls" 3 words? (instead of 2?). ..."You are correct Mariab. Sorry, Cherie. I didn't answer you correctly. The number of words in the title of One Thousand Souls is 3, not 2.
Okay wait! The more I read, the more confused I'm getting.If a number is 1000, it's one word
If a number is One Thousand, it's two words
If a number is One-Thousand, it's one word
At least in my world, that's how it's going to be.
Two Hundred and Twenty-One Baker Streets: An Anthology of Holmesian Tales Across Time and Space
Two
Hundred
And
Twenty-one
Baker
Streets
6 words.
When calculating the score:
Two Hundred = 200: 2+0+0=2
Twenty-One = 21: 2+1=3
Total score - 5
Rusalka wrote: "Janice - would zero count as it is a number, but not none as it's a term not a number?"Zero (0) is a cardinal number according to Wikipedia, so it's acceptable. "None" is a term and not a number.
Janice wrote: "Zero (0) is a cardinal number according to Wikipedia, so it's acceptable. "None" is a term and not a number. "Awesome. Thank you.
What I thought but things seem to be getting a little tied in knots in here I thought I would get the official clarification :D
Well, I thought I understood how you were counting the word numbers and then you change it. No biggie, I get 5 for a and 4 for b regardless. Zero is a number then. I stand corrected.
Thanks.
Good to hear about zero being allowed as I've been swaying towards the title with that in. But that may change. I guess it depends on what J'mom has in store for us with the toppler- I'm hoping i can combine.
Wow - I never knew numbers could be so complicated! lol My head is spinning just reading this.I am going to read The Twelve Tribes of Hattie
Cherie wrote: "Well, I thought I understood how you were counting the word numbers and then you change it. No biggie, I get 5 for a and 4 for b regardless. Zero is a number then. I stand corrected.
Thanks."
My fault entirely, Cherie. I confused the issue because I wasn't paying attention. You had listed two books in your initial question and I was looking at the One Thousand and thinking about the other book which had a hyphenated number in it.
Sorry!
No problem, Janice. ^_^I had originally started to ask about Two Hundred being one word or two, but I decided that I didn't care at that point. On the follow up, either way would have been fine with me because it was YLTO after all!
I am grateful I have a book to read and I am looking forward to it.
Some of my other book titles will go to the Geocache challenge, so I am good with that. The only one I was really considering was NOS4A2. I have it on audio and I am dying to listen to it after listening to Kate Mulgrew narrate her book. Some of the others were over 500 pages too.
Wow! I always think the rules are so black and white, then you people come along with all this gray paint! ;-)
Whew! All this activity and so many questions and clarifications! I'll have to spend a bit of time looking through my library.
You know Lynda, I always think the same thing! LOL!
If anyone needs a good deal on a book with numbers in the title, there were two in my email this morning. Two Rivers is .99 on amazon today. It would also work for the geo. challenge for the arrowhead task.
Rise Of The Six is free on amazon today.
Of course both are the first in a series.
Sounds interesting Marie. Enjoy!
I've decided to go with Four Past Midnight. It's next up on my reading queue any way. Perfect timing.
We all should have studied mathematics... ;) I choose The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August by Claire North
Susan B wrote: "I've decided on 
by Peter Clines for this one. Definitely a number."Definitely! No questions or ambiguity there.
Fee wrote: "We all should have studied mathematics... ;) I choose The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August by Claire North"If we didn't in school, we're getting a crash course here.
You give us a good example of both a cardinal and an ordinal number. Good job!
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I'm slightly confused at a few scoring i..."
You have calculated the title and author scores correctly.
I agree about the number of colours - green, yellow, black.
We don't include subtitles, so your title is two words. The remainder is a subtitle.
One author as per Goodreads book blurbs. The others aren't cited as authors. They may have contributed their stories and experiences, but they didn't write the book.