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message 1: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed Sherif | 47 comments Dear Librarians,

I have applied to be a librarian a few days ago. It told me that an email will be sent to me to confirm being a librarian, but I didn't receive any email yet.

Can you please help me to be a librarian.

Best regards,


message 2: by Sajith (new)

Sajith Kumar (sajithkumar) | 23 comments Don't worry, Ahmed. In my case, it took nearly a week by which time I had practically become mad with expecting it at any moment!!


message 3: by Ahmed (last edited Mar 20, 2016 11:24AM) (new)

Ahmed Sherif | 47 comments Thanks Sajith, I was just wondering :)


message 4: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed Sherif | 47 comments I still haven't received any reply about being a librarian. Can anybody help me?


message 5: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16368 comments No, because librarians don't decide these matters, staff do.

You could try and click the application link again. If it works, your application has been rejected (remember, you don't get a notification if that is the case). Otherwise, you'll get an error message saying you have already applied and it is being handled.


message 6: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16368 comments Ahmed wrote: "I have applied to be a librarian a few days ago. It told me that an email will be sent to me to confirm being a librarian, but I didn't receive any email yet."

You only get the email if you have been accepted as a librarian.


message 7: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed Sherif | 47 comments Dear Lethe, thanks for your reply. I will try again.


message 8: by Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) (last edited Mar 18, 2016 12:26PM) (new)

Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) | 6325 comments Lethe's correct: goodreads only notifies when you are made a librarian.

But, no notification doesn't mean you were rejected or that you need to re-apply.

It may be that goodreads doesn't need more librarians at this time (or not in the areas you gave as reason for applying). It doesn't necessarily mean your application was rejected or that you need to re-apply. Your application could just still be pending a need.


message 9: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed Sherif | 47 comments Dear Lethe, I do appreciate your replies, but all what you said were assumptions. I'd like to have an answer.

Anyway, I will wait and see what happens. :)

Regards,


message 10: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed Sherif | 47 comments Thanks, D.A.


message 11: by Philip (new)

Philip (burnnerman) | 5912 comments Also, this is not something that should have been posted to the Librarians Group, since we have no control over it.


message 12: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16368 comments Ahmed wrote: "all what you said were assumptions."

Uh, no, they weren't.


message 13: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed Sherif | 47 comments Dear Lethe,

What does it mean when you start your words by " may be" ? To me It means that you assume, doesn't it?


message 14: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed Sherif | 47 comments Sorry Lethe, it wasn't you. It was D.A.


message 15: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed Sherif | 47 comments Well, thanks to all of you for trying to help me.

One more question, how shall I contact the staff who are responsible of this issue?


message 16: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16368 comments You could try support (at) goodreads (dot) com, but I doubt they will discuss this with you. My advice is to re-apply.

With "it may be" D.A. just meant that there can be more than one reason why you haven't heard anything yet. 1) you were rejected, or 2) your application is kept in file until there is a need for librarians with your qualities.

I personally don't think Goodreads would keep a file with pending applications, but that is just an assumption on my part. ;-)
D.A. is a longtime GR member and former librarian (who waived her librarian status a few years back), so she might well be better informed than me in this respect.


message 17: by Sam (new)

Sam Quixote (samquixote) | 388 comments I've applied to be a GR librarian twice now and received no response. I've been a user for 5 years, I'm a top reviewer, I use the site every day - what more do I need to provide to be registered as a GR librarian!?!


message 18: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed Sherif | 47 comments Sam wrote: "I've applied to be a GR librarian twice now and received no response. I've been a user for 5 years, I'm a top reviewer, I use the site every day - what more do I need to provide to be registered as..."

I don't know! May be they have enough librarians to do the job.


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂  | 2332 comments Hi Sam

The first time I applied either there was a bug or I accidentally deleted the why I wanted to be a librarian section. That part is very important.

Also if you speak other languages I would mention that.

Good luck!


message 20: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16368 comments Sam wrote: "I've applied to be a GR librarian twice now and received no response. I've been a user for 5 years, I'm a top reviewer, I use the site every day - what more do I need to provide to be registered as..."

An active user does not necessarily make a good librarian. It helps if you have qualities that are useful for librarian work on GR, f.e. accuracy, and if you are prepared to follow the GR rules even if you may not always agree with them.


message 21: by Sam (new)

Sam Quixote (samquixote) | 388 comments Ahmed wrote: "I don't know! May be they have enough librarians to do the job."

Bearing in mind GR librarians improve the site for free, why would they want to limit these?

lethe wrote: "An active user does not necessarily make a good librarian. It helps if you have qualities that are useful for librarian work on GR, f.e. accuracy, and if you are prepared to follow the GR rules even if you may not always agree with them."

But how would you demonstrate that?


message 22: by Jacob (new)

Jacob Sebæk | 2 comments Have applied twice as well, and however annoying it is not being able to correct obvious errors and omissions on Danish authors, not least creating them it is a loss I can live with.
I offer to improve the quality, offer rejected. GR loss.


message 23: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16368 comments Sam wrote: "lethe wrote: "An active user does not necessarily make a good librarian. It helps if you have qualities that are useful for librarian work on GR, f.e. accuracy, and if you are prepared to follow the GR rules even if you may not always agree with them."

But how would you demonstrate that?"


As with any job application, you write your qualities in the application form.

I've seen enough GR librarians completely ignoring the librarian manual and going against the most important rules to understand why GR would want to keep the number in check. When GR started out, everybody could not only add, but also do edits and it became such a mess that they started appointing librarians instead.


message 24: by Sam (new)

Sam Quixote (samquixote) | 388 comments lethe wrote: "As with any job application, you write your qualities in the application form."

Ok, well I did that twice - I guess they don't want me! Like Jacob, I'd say it's their loss!


message 25: by Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) (last edited Mar 20, 2016 01:48PM) (new)

Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) | 6325 comments In the meantime, while waiting for librarian status to be approved, just post the edits you want to do in this group and a librarian will handle for you.

You can also begin reviewing the librarian policy manual you will have to adhere to so you can be ready to do edits when approved. If you find anything confusing, ask in this group and/or follow along on any threads requesting whatever edits confused you.

I don't "know" (or know which particular languages at this time), but like previous posters, I do assume that language skills are still needed.

[Again, you will only be notified when approved -- they will not communicate with you about if or why rejected. That's not me assuming or speculating -- that's what Rivka and other staff members have repeatedly said. Like at https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/... ,

Rivka and other staff also deliberately do not say what why I want to be a librarian answer gets an application approved -- I would speculate their reasoning is that if they said anyone listing "I like editing books with purple covers" on their application would be approved then every application would start saying "I like editing books with purple covers."

I did always assume the average length of time it took for librarian requests (or for particular types of librarian requests) to be filled was possibly used as one indicator of needing more librarians. That if it was taking hours / days /weeks for edits of _____ books/fields to be addressed that applications mentioning _____ might be looked for. Another possible indicator for needing more librarians might be if they had to revoke a lot of librarian statuses because stubbornly and repeatedly not following policies (something else they don't publicly post).

Not exactly on topic but I didn't quit over any issues with librarians or the librarians program -- I just quit when goodreads was purchased by retailer Amazon because I don't volunteer for retail businesses. (view spoiler)


message 26: by Sam (new)

Sam Quixote (samquixote) | 388 comments I would've added it but I'm not a librarian... So could someone add a cover to this book, please?

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...


message 27: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed Sherif | 47 comments Sam wrote: "I would've added it but I'm not a librarian... So could someone add a cover to this book, please?

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2..."


You have to put a link of the book cover for librarians to be able to add the cover.


message 28: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed Sherif | 47 comments Sam wrote: "I would've added it but I'm not a librarian... So could someone add a cover to this book, please?

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2..."


You should also inform them of the source of the book cover.


message 29: by Sam (new)

Sam Quixote (samquixote) | 388 comments And yet someone has managed to do it anyway - check the link.


message 30: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed Sherif | 47 comments That was fast. Good job.


message 31: by Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) (last edited Mar 20, 2016 01:44PM) (new)

Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) | 6325 comments A more official answer can be found at top of the librarian manual and under the help screens at https://www.goodreads.com/librarian_m... which says:
"... Applicants who are accepted to the Goodreads Librarian program will be notified by email. Please note that no notification is sent if an applicant is not accepted to the program. [emphasis mine]

What can librarians do?


Goodreads members with Librarian Status can edit book and author data, add book covers, and combine different editions of books. Each book and author has one unique entry in the Goodreads database. Librarians help correct book issues, like if the data isn't correct, or is missing things like the book description or URL.

Why not make everyone a librarian?


Initially, we allowed everyone to be a librarian. Anyone could edit book and author data, add cover images, or combine books. However, we found that while 99% of the people did a good job, occasionally we had someone who messed things up. So we created a new status that we bestow on those interested in helping keep things nice and tidy, which has worked out well..."



message 32: by Jacob (new)

Jacob Sebæk | 2 comments A very good point about Amazon, and a decent decision.


message 33: by Michael (new)

Michael Korleone (michaelkorleone) | 3881 comments For Awkwood, I added cover from Amazon. Then I got lost on Comixology. Trying to find my way out...


message 34: by Sam (new)

Sam Quixote (samquixote) | 388 comments Good work Michael! Yup, Comixology sure is a purty site filled with treasures.


message 35: by Krazykiwi (new)

Krazykiwi | 1767 comments There is no way out of Comixology. They have you forever now.


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