The Catcher in the Rye
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Holden an unreliable narrator?

Is Holden an unreliable narrator? How much of his story is true?
I thought that the line below should be discussed.
“I'm the most terrific liar you ever saw in your life. It's awful. If I'm on my way to the store to buy a magazine, even, and somebody asks me where I'm going, I'm liable to say I'm going to the opera. It's terrible.”
Now if Holden is an unreliable narrator, is it irony that he would also be a phony?
I thought that the line below should be discussed.
“I'm the most terrific liar you ever saw in your life. It's awful. If I'm on my way to the store to buy a magazine, even, and somebody asks me where I'm going, I'm liable to say I'm going to the opera. It's terrible.”
Now if Holden is an unreliable narrator, is it irony that he would also be a phony?
But aren't we all unreliable narrators when we are telling a story about ourselves. We see things thru our perception not always the way it really happened.
Yes, it is ironic, because throughout the book Holden constantly points out everyone else's phoniness while completely ignoring and over-looking his own. He's also an unreliable narrator because he is depressed and sees the world through his sixteen year-old pessimistic eyes.
Terryn Mae Shock
Is he depressed or a Hypochondriac? I think (Golly gee here are some spoilers!!!) In the end he is in the infirmary. Suicidal doesnt make sense to me,
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I think the fact that he's such an unreliable narrator is actually one of the main points of the book. The author wants us to really believe the story is being told by a moody teenager, so that unreliableness is key in my opinion.
I'd say he is an unreliable narrator; the tone of the whole book comes off as if Holden is exaggerating certain events to make himself seem like a more interesting or 'better' person. He does the same to drag other characters down due to his own insecurities - he's pretty much the typical teenage stereotype who views himself as the only one capable of deep thought, whilst everyone else is just a fake clone of each other. This is where the irony lies because, first of all, Holden is unaware that other teens he meets probably think in the same way; secondly, he is so lacking in self-awareness that he fails to see that he has been following the crowd the entire time.
Not necessarily. Don't he hate phony's?
(I haven't read the book in years so I can't remember much)
(I haven't read the book in years so I can't remember much)
I don't understand what you mean by an unreliable narrator.... the "Catcher" isn't a piece of journalism, in the least, and is clearly a work of fiction on many levels. I really doubt J.D. Salinger ever had a weekend exactly like that, or even remotely like that, but must've condensed a lot of experiences into his mind to let them out in freewhelin' prose, so that he all but connected fictional moments of his life and packed them into a weekend. Of course, Holden is an unreliable narrator, he's a teenager, but it's not like he's an eyewitness to a murder, except that of his childhood, and that's a poetic rememberance. His reflectons are real, and that's why we read the book.
Holden is unreliable in the facts he tells the story when he was in undergoing treatment in a mental hospital or sanatorium
The quote you give should be read as an indication of a certain authentic loathing of phoniness...
It is so sad, as If you all have forgotten youth or how to open your soul — as if you didn’t know Holden at all.
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