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message 1: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Apr 19, 2014 11:56PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments This thread is inspired by Dawn.

When Dawn was querying the break up of countries in the 6th century regions of Italy, she found this terribly informative map site which answered her own question.
This is the Italy map
http://www.timemaps.com/history/italy...


This is the main HOME page for that site: Time Maps
http://www.timemaps.com/home

If you know of any informative map sites that have maps of countries during Ancient or Medieval time periods, please feel free to add your link to this thread.

This thread also serves another purpose.
If you are reading a book and see a country or place mentioned and you don't know anything about it and would like to know about it or where it is, you can ask a question in this thread. Hopefully someone from the group can help you out with some information.

Don't be shy. It does not matter what the town or country. Nobody will judge you for wanting to know something about the place or where it is. one of the good things about the genre of historical fiction, is that we all learn something about history from the books we read thanks to the authors doing the research for us. Hopefully, we the readers can also help each other out on the learning front too.


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Great idea.


message 3: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments This map site is a very good one.

Maps of the Middle East
https://cmes.uchicago.edu/page/maps-m...


message 4: by Nancy (new)

Nancy Brumback | 85 comments Great idea! Thanks!


message 5: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Apr 19, 2014 11:54PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I don't know why I never thought of it before! These map sites are going to really help us all when we are reading.


message 6: by Sceadugenga (new)

Sceadugenga Cool....I'm a regular Bilbo Baggins when it comes to maps.


message 7: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments Terri wrote: "I don't know why I never thought of it before! These map sites are going to really help us all when we are reading."

I completely agree! One can never have too many maps.
I'm going to go find that Celtic map I had posted somewhere.


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message 9: by Steven (new)

Steven Malone | 65 comments Great shares, folks. 'Not sure about the theosophy aspects of the Britain map site but both are very helpful.


message 10: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) Great idea!!


message 11: by Simona (last edited Apr 21, 2014 11:37AM) (new)

Simona | 1453 comments Terri wrote: "I don't know why I never thought of it before! These map sites are going to really help us all when we are reading."

that they are. thank you


message 12: by Ioana (new)

Ioana Great maps, thanks a lot!


message 13: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments You're welcome. :) Hope they help at some stage.


message 14: by Suzanne (new)

Suzanne (suzanne_d) | 34 comments This site is great for highly detailed, historical maps of London: you can search and zoom into maps from 1745 and about 1870, and then toggle between the old map and the present day.

http://www.locatinglondon.org/


message 15: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments oooo..that's a good map website. Thanks for adding that one, Suzanne.


message 16: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) Wow, my Dad is gonna love this one. He loves his London mysteries and he's always trying to figure out the places based on what he's seen himself. Thanks!


message 17: by Lia (new)

Lia (lia_mb) | 638 comments This topic will burn my laminating machine. :D


message 18: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (caveatlector) Ahhh, the burdens of being a nerd!! lol


message 19: by Suzanne (new)

Suzanne (suzanne_d) | 34 comments Dawn wrote: "Wow, my Dad is gonna love this one. He loves his London mysteries and he's always trying to figure out the places based on what he's seen himself. Thanks!"

Ha ha, I'm glad I'm not the only person that does that! My reading of London novels is quite often slowed by the amount of time I spend perusing maps...


message 20: by Haydn (new)

Haydn Morris Suzanne wrote: "This site is great for highly detailed, historical maps of London: you can search and zoom into maps from 1745 and about 1870, and then toggle between the old map and the present day.

http://www.l..."


Great site link thanks. I just found a place called "St Andrew by the Wardrobe". Fascinating. Will help with my genealogy study of my London ancestors.


message 22: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Apr 27, 2014 08:07PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Tuba wrote: "I've just seen the Middle East map and I should tell you that there's no country called Kurdistan and the northern part of Cyprus belongs to Turkey and called Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. In addition to that,the borders are pretty vague that it looks Armenia is involved in Turkey but not.It's just a neighbour just like Georgia.
Just wanted to prevent people who have never been this part of the world to get a wrong idea.
Cheers ..."


I am not sure which map you are talking about Tuba. There are scores of maps.
Do you mean the map in the top right corner titled, Political map of the Middle East in the Late 20th Century?


There is no country marked on the map as Kurdistan. The word Kurdistan only reflects a geographical and cultural region.
Not to start a political debate (because I won't be pulled into one), but the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus is not a recognised State. It is only recognised by Turkey.
It doesn't make a map wrong if it does not include Northern Cyprus as a part of Turkey. It is only a wrong map to someone from Turkey. Such as yourself.

There is no vagueness with the border of Turkey and Armenia, it is just that two names, Armenia and Yerevan, are written there and the border cannot be seen because of them. Not a vagary, just an issue with the font size they are using.


message 23: by Andy (new)

Andy | 1510 comments Dawn said.... ;) So here we go, a little mine of a site & one thats always growing by the looks. Quite impressive with links to Books, Films, maps, Timelines too for any period your looking to research.

http://www.ancient.eu/


message 24: by Kimber (last edited Aug 21, 2014 01:43PM) (new)

Kimber (kimberlibri) | 785 comments Andy wrote: "Dawn said.... ;) So here we go, a little mine of a site & one thats always growing by the looks. Quite impressive with links to Books, Films, maps, Timelines too for any period your looking to rese..."

Nice! This is the first time I've seen this thread and I'm ecstatic! I have ancient maps and fantasy maps (Middle Earth, Discworld) all over my office :D


message 25: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Oooo..good map site that one, Andy. Thanks for posting it.


message 26: by Kimber (last edited Aug 26, 2014 01:02PM) (new)

Kimber (kimberlibri) | 785 comments Because I just finished A Burnable Book I found this map fascinating:

http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Ital...

London around 1300. Complete with the Guildhall, Abbeys and Churches, Scotland Yard, St. Mary Overey's Priory, docks and major street names. It really helped me keep locations straight while reading.


message 27: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments That is a nice map to accompany a read of A Burnable Book.


message 29: by Kimber (last edited Sep 01, 2014 06:58PM) (new)

Kimber (kimberlibri) | 785 comments Mark wrote: "http://londonist.com/2014/01/anglo-sa..."

I love that one! This thread has me in full out map-geek mode!


message 30: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Sep 01, 2014 09:27PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments I'd like to see a map of roads from very early 11th century Britain. I've always wanted to know which Roman Roads were still in use, for example.
It's easy to find town ones, not so easy to find 'free' road ones. I've seen books you can buy with the maps I want in them, but I want to avoid buying if I can fibd one for free. If anybody knows of such a map please hand over your link. :)


message 31: by Linda (new)

Linda (ladylawyer8650) | 1702 comments I loved your map! Maps are 'collectibles.'


message 32: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments Terri, are you looking for ordinance type maps? I found this site http://www.bibliographics.com/MAPS/BR...

then I found
http://keithbriggs.info/Roman_road_ma...

This one doesn't really have much in the way of road maps, but it does have just about every other type of mapping of Roman Britain you'd want
http://www.roman-britain.org/maps.htm

Then, probably the less fussy, but informative map of just the roads and their names
http://www.iadb.co.uk/romans/main.php...


message 33: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments And in a related story, here are maps of roads (though Britain isn't included) of Roman roads, created by the Romans

http://www.euratlas.net/cartogra/peut...

Just click on a section and voila!


message 34: by E. A. (last edited Sep 02, 2014 12:19PM) (new)

E. A. Haltom (eahaltom) | 2 comments Terri wrote: "I'd like to see a map of roads from very early 11th century Britain. I've always wanted to know which Roman Roads were still in use, for example.
It's easy to find town ones, not so easy to find '..."


Hello, Terri,
It isn't free, but I have used a map by the National Geographic Society and National Geographic Magazine entitled "Medieval England" for my own research. It is a poster-sized map, scaled approx. 1 in. = 20 mil, and can be ordered from the magazine's website. It shows points of historical and geographic interest as well as Roman roads still in use and town names that were in use around 11th-14th c. The rough location of historic castles from the period are also marked, and lots of historical notes fill the margins. I've thoroughly enjoyed having it hang over my desk for about 4 years now.

Here is a link to the map on the NG website. They have a nice scrolling tool that might help you browse it a bit w/o having to buy it.

http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/ma...


message 35: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Darcy wrote: "Terri, are you looking for ordinance type maps? I found this site http://www.bibliographics.com/MAPS/BR...

then I found
http://keithbriggs.info/Roman_road_ma...

Thi..."


I am having trouble opening some of those on my tablet. The links work. Its only my tablet that gets glitchy.

I'm not after roads maps set during the time of Roman occupation though. What I really want is a map or maps showing where they believe the major thoroughfares were during the 11th century. I want to see how people travelled all aroubd and which roads still followed what was an original Roman Road. ie Watling, Ermine


message 36: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (last edited Sep 03, 2014 07:29PM) (new)

Terri | 19576 comments E.A. wrote: "Terri wrote: "I'd like to see a map of roads from very early 11th century Britain. I've always wanted to know which Roman Roads were still in use, for example.
It's easy to find town ones, not so ..."



That is EXACTLY what I am after E.A. Only free. :)
Nothing is scrolling for me, but that may be because I am on a tablet. I want to get to the Northern England area mostly. Northumbria.
If anybody sees one for free, what E.A describes is precisely what I am after.


message 37: by Kimber (last edited Sep 04, 2014 12:44PM) (new)

Kimber (kimberlibri) | 785 comments Possibly this one - The Roman Roads project. The link is to the map of Britain and you have to click on it to get the close up and names of the roads and towns...
http://www.brrp.bham.ac.uk/maps/brita...
or this one by colour code:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia...


message 38: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Kimber wrote: "Possibly this one - The Roman Roads project. The link is to the map of Britain and you have to click on it to get the close up and names of the roads and towns...
http://www.brrp.bham.ac.uk/maps/br..."


Thanks Kimber,
Afraid those are more maps that are only Roman roads. I was after maps of the 11th century roads and town locations. To see which Roman roads (for example) were still being used..along with more modern counterparts.

Roman road maps themselves I can find, but a free map of Britain in the 11th century that shows roads (some of those roads may have once been Roman roads), I cannot find. :)


message 39: by Darcy (last edited Sep 04, 2014 06:04PM) (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments This one is of the 9th century

http://www.designsofwonder.com/images...

Here's a list of all the maps they have online http://www.designsofwonder.com/?conte...


message 40: by E. A. (new)

E. A. Haltom (eahaltom) | 2 comments Terri wrote: "E.A. wrote: "Terri wrote: "I'd like to see a map of roads from very early 11th century Britain. I've always wanted to know which Roman Roads were still in use, for example.
It's easy to find town ..."


You have to click on the map image and a pop up window will give you another image of the map that you can zoom in/out and navigate around. Let me know if that doesn't work. Maybe I can send you pics or upload pics to my blog.


message 41: by Linda (new)

Linda (ladylawyer8650) | 1702 comments I love the maps! I have a big world map under the glass on my work station table. But I love these new maps of ancient times. Thank all of you. LL


message 42: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments Darcy wrote: "This one is of the 9th century

http://www.designsofwonder.com/images...

Here's a list of all the maps they have online http://www.designsofwonder.com/?conte..."


Thanks for the link! I found one on Southern England Circa 1000AD. Unfortunately it doesn't go passed York (being Southern England and all)
This one: http://www.designsofwonder.com/images...

My search continues.


message 43: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments E.A. wrote: "You have to click on the map image and a pop up window will give you another image of the map that you can zoom in/out and navigate around. Let me know if that doesn't work. Maybe I can send you pics or upload pics to my blog. .."

Thank you for the lovely offer, E.A. :)..but I just got it to work. It wasn't working because I originally looked at it on my Tablet device. Now I am on my laptop I can do it all. Zoom, move the map around.
Shame they have no road names, but at least you can guess by the road positions which is, for example, Ermine Street.


message 44: by Mark (new)

Mark | 1885 comments http://www.viralforest.com/watch-1000...

its fascinating to watch.


message 45: by Kimber (new)

Kimber (kimberlibri) | 785 comments Mark wrote: "http://www.viralforest.com/watch-1000...

its fascinating to watch."


Wow! You almost have to watch it several times and look at each section of the map to watch the progress. Absolutely Amazing!


message 46: by Linda (new)

Linda (ladylawyer8650) | 1702 comments Poor Poland. I could not keep my eye off that country that came and went and came and went. Amazing.


message 47: by Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd (new)

Terri | 19576 comments That is incredible. Wow. That would have taken a lot of work to do. So many going on in so short a period.
Was interesting to see the Mongols lose their ground over a short period. And then Russia win and lose and win and lose ground over and over.

This is why we will never have peace around the world. We are a territorial species. Always wanting to fight with other tribes for territory.


message 48: by Andy (new)

Andy | 1510 comments Great find that Mark, was watching the Ottoman Empire area, being there for centuries & then poof gone in a few decades! Also the german & Italian states constantly rising & falling & Yes Poland - it even disappeared completely at one point!


message 49: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (drokka) | 2675 comments I thought Germany growing, then shrinking, then growing, the shrinking in just a 30 year period was funny. I mean as animation, not funny in a world dominating way. ;)


message 50: by Linda (new)

Linda (ladylawyer8650) | 1702 comments I would like to see the causes of the different partitions as they occur, but I am not a speed reader.


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