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message 1: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...

Even though Grok Testuser is currently reading this [sic], shouldn't it be nabbed? This author has a bunch of journal type books and blank books that I believe should be nabbed.


message 2: by Kerry (new)

Kerry (geniusscientist) | 70 comments Bump. Looks like a NAB to me.


message 3: by Emy (new)

Emy (emypt) | 5037 comments Grok Testuser will be something to do with the developers so leaving well alone personally :)


message 6: by Z-squared (new)

Z-squared | 8576 comments 4/5 done


message 7: by Andréa (new)

Andréa (fernandie) | 152 comments Hoping this is the right thread for this...

There are many items listed under Charley Harper (https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...) that I believe are not books, but I don't feel comfortable enough with the policies/practice to NAB them myself.

Can someone with more experience take a look, please?


message 9: by Z-squared (new)

Z-squared | 8576 comments 7 and 8 done


message 10: by Andréa (new)

Andréa (fernandie) | 152 comments Z-squared wrote: "7 and 8 done"

Thanks!


message 11: by Sophie (new)

Sophie (notemily) | 469 comments https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...

this one has a lot of ratings.


message 12: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Merged with first book on its list and ISBN added to the NAB list.


message 13: by Sophie (new)

Sophie (notemily) | 469 comments Thanks, rivka.


message 15: by Sophie (last edited Aug 23, 2014 06:44PM) (new)

Sophie (notemily) | 469 comments https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...

No idea what book these two users meant to shelve.


message 16: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Someone must have merged 14; the links all redirect to the primary edition now.

I changed the author on 15. Without an idea of what to merge to I hesitate to just zap it.


message 18: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
17: ditto as on 15.


message 19: by Lesley (new)

Lesley | 59 comments Not sure if this helps.

#17 - ISBN search gives this result with full bib data
http://www.bookdepository.com/Henley-...
which corresponds with what is listed on BookData.

Can't help with any further details for #15 though.


message 20: by Z-squared (new)

Z-squared | 8576 comments rivka wrote: "Someone must have merged 14; the links all redirect to the primary edition now."

Whoops, that was me. Forgot to note as such here. I also created NAB'd entries with the offending ISBNs so they won't be re-added to the database.


message 21: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Great.


message 22: by Philip (new)

Philip (burnnerman) | 5912 comments Have not NAB'd anything, this appears to be a video, but looks like it is possibly associated to a book, so was not sure how to deal with it.

Cause and Effect: Intermediate Reading Practice Video


message 23: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Yeah, that's still a NAB. Taken care of.


message 27: by Z-squared (new)

Z-squared | 8576 comments 24-26 done


message 28: by Sophie (new)

Sophie (notemily) | 469 comments NAB?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...

I'm confused about how to NAB something that has been shelved, when you can't use the NAB button. The instructions say to merge two identical editions, which involves deleting one of them, but then you can't edit the one that's been deleted to say NOT A BOOK because it doesn't exist anymore. Am I missing something?


message 29: by Sophie (new)

Sophie (notemily) | 469 comments https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...

Still confused about how to transfer ratings when NABing manually.


message 31: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl Sophie wrote: "then you can't edit the one that's been deleted to say NOT A BOOK because it doesn't exist anymore. Am I missing something? "

Write down the ISBN 10 and 13 of the thing to be nabbed plus all other metadata. Merge the item. Create a new record with the ISBN 10 and 13 plus all the metadata, NAB it.


message 32: by Sophie (new)

Sophie (notemily) | 469 comments So the part in the librarian manual that says:

d. The not-a-book record has been recreated in the GR database with no users shelving it; all of the users were transferred to the actual book in step (b).

is incorrect? You have to recreate it manually? Just making sure I understand.

Also, possible NAB:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

Not sure how to verify whether or not this is an actual book.


message 33: by Abcdarian (last edited Sep 29, 2014 04:35PM) (new)

Abcdarian | 26579 comments When you google the ISBN there are several sites listing it as a book. Weird title isn't it?


message 34: by Lobstergirl (last edited Sep 29, 2014 05:38PM) (new)

Lobstergirl Sophie @32:

Re your "possible NAB":

I would never NAB something that is titled Untitled. Authors buy ISBNs in blocks and may or may not use all of them. I suppose that book was either a planned book that didn't get published, or it's an edition of a book that did get published but that particular edition wasn't needed or whatever.

Not being the author or the publisher it's impossible for us to know what's going on with that specific ISBN. Most likely it wouldn't hurt the database for it to be NABbed, but again, not knowing the situation, I personally would not NAB it. It's not like a "strip clip" or something where we know it is not an actual physical book.


message 35: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl Sophie wrote: "So the part in the librarian manual that says:

d. The not-a-book record has been recreated in the GR database with no users shelving it; all of the users were transferred to the actual book in step (b).

is incorrect? You have to recreate it manually? Just making sure I understand."


Don't know. I thought you did have to recreate it manually - otherwise it would just be reimported by one of the automatic importers - but I could be wrong.


message 36: by Sophie (new)

Sophie (notemily) | 469 comments The librarian manual also says, under "these items are not books":

* untitled books where no verifiable publication information about the book exists (often these are titled "Untitled #3" and represent placeholder ISBNs that were never used)

Maybe I'm relying too much on the manual here, but this seems like one of those cases. (And the manual should definitely be changed if you have to recreate the record yourself when merging the NAB into the actual book.)


message 37: by Sophie (new)

Sophie (notemily) | 469 comments Anyway, what about books that say CANCELLED?

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...


message 38: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl I'm not saying you MUST recreate the record yourself after a NAB. It's not necessary to the NAB process itself. I'm just saying having the record there prevents that ISBN from being auto-imported again as a fresh, new, unNABbed book.


message 40: by Sophie (new)

Sophie (notemily) | 469 comments Lobstergirl wrote: "I'm not saying you MUST recreate the record yourself after a NAB. It's not necessary to the NAB process itself. I'm just saying having the record there prevents that ISBN from being auto-imported..."

Right, but the manual says that Goodreads automatically recreates the record, so that should be changed if it doesn't.


message 41: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl Yeah. I have no idea. Hopefully staff will address.


message 42: by rivka, Former Moderator (last edited Oct 03, 2014 05:19PM) (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
That must date back to when searching by ISBN caused an automatic import from Amazon if the book was there but not here. I'll add it to the list of things needing updating in the Manual.


message 44: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl Got the "hard to find" captain underpants doll.


message 45: by Abcdarian (last edited Oct 06, 2014 08:42AM) (new)

Abcdarian | 26579 comments Not too sure what's going on with this one, maybe NAB?

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...


message 46: by Z-squared (new)

Z-squared | 8576 comments re 45, google cached searches sure makes it seem NAB-worthy.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com...

do you want to, or should i?


message 47: by Abcdarian (new)

Abcdarian | 26579 comments Go for it; I need a break! :-D
And thanks!


message 49: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl Got #48.


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