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message 1: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21809 comments Just saw this article, which I felt people ought to be aware of.

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/gadgets/y...


message 2: by Kath (last edited Apr 06, 2014 01:17AM) (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments I knew this. I think many people do. We just accept it and I've never lost a book.


message 3: by Patti (baconater) (last edited Apr 06, 2014 01:32AM) (new)

Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Yep. And that is why drm or whatever it's called sucks.

Digital rights management, is it?


message 4: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21809 comments What happens if you download books onto your PC and then send them to your kindle?


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments From amazon? Still DRMed, unless you strip the DRM, I believe.

I understand it's possible to do that, but I wouldn't have a clue how.

The DRM debate was always a hugely talked about subject in the zoo, back in the day.


message 6: by Darren (new)

Darren Humphries (darrenhf) | 6903 comments I do understand the lincense to view thing, but the we can remove without explaining ourselves thing is way out order. You should always have to explain and justify such actions.


Lynne (Tigger's Mum) | 4643 comments I think there was more to it at the time. She contravened her part of the agreement by registering as if she lived in the UK but buying in Norway using a friend's address. They allow the occasional download on holiday - wasn't the problem the licence regulations?


message 8: by David (new)

David Hadley If Amazon ever started playing silly buggers, then someone would come up with a program to strip the DRM from the Amazon files.

I doubt if Amazon would be so daft.

Probably the best thing for the paranoid would be to copy all their Ebooks into something like Calibre.


message 9: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments Calibre is free, multi-platform, and an excellent way to back up your kindle books. :) But do it *before* Amazon locks you out!

As for stripping the nasty DRM off, of course it can be done - google is your friend there. :)

I'm not a fan of DRM in any shape or form. Perhaps you can tell!


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments I've got calibre but no idea how to back up my books.


message 11: by David (new)

David Hadley Patti (baconater) wrote: "I've got calibre but no idea how to back up my books."

Just plug your kindle into the computer usb with calibre running and it should auto-detect your kindle, then just copy books from kindle to calibre. (I think it is under one of the kindle-specific icons that appear when the kindle is connected.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments That'd only work for the books actually on my kindle, yes?

Cuz I've got hundreds that are just in the cloud.

Hundreds.


Jay-me (Janet)  | 3784 comments Patti (baconater) wrote: "That'd only work for the books actually on my kindle, yes?

Cuz I've got hundreds that are just in the cloud.

Hundreds."



Don't you mean Thousands


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Um yes. Thousands.

Only a couple thousand though. Ish.


message 15: by David (new)

David Hadley Patti (baconater) wrote: "That'd only work for the books actually on my kindle, yes?

Cuz I've got hundreds that are just in the cloud.

Hundreds."


Do a raindance.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Or move to the UK.


message 17: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments Patti (baconater) wrote: "That'd only work for the books actually on my kindle, yes?

Cuz I've got hundreds that are just in the cloud.

Hundreds."


Yeah, they've gotta be on your Kindle. You can do it in batches though.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Batches? Batches?

We don't need no steekin' batches!


message 19: by A.L. (new)

A.L. Butcher (alb2012) | 1608 comments That story has been doing the rounds since last year.


message 20: by Will (new)

Will Macmillan Jones (willmacmillanjones) | 11324 comments Some of the book review sites I've been looking at require DRM to be deselected by the author/publisher, or they will not review the book at all.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments I wonder if those review sites are bunging the books onto pirate bay or something.

Dorm shouldn't matter to them, you'd think.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Neither should DRM


message 23: by Will (new)

Will Macmillan Jones (willmacmillanjones) | 11324 comments Interesting idea


message 24: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21809 comments Makes you think dunnit :-(


message 25: by A.L. (new)

A.L. Butcher (alb2012) | 1608 comments Personally I'd rather have DRM on my books. I can understand why people don't like it, but really with, for example Kindle you can have the book on up to 5 devices, and really is anyone going to need more than that.

That story about the 'renting' kindle books has been about for a while.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Actually, you can have most books on unlimited devices. The publisher sets how many devices. I think most set it to unlimited these days.


message 27: by Tim (last edited Apr 09, 2014 12:15PM) (new)

Tim | 8539 comments A.L. wrote: "Personally I'd rather have DRM on my books. I can understand why people don't like it, but really with, for example Kindle you can have the book on up to 5 devices, and really is anyone going to ne..."

I have 7. 8 if you include cloud reader. By choosing DRM, all you are doing is inconveniencing me (not a lot, cos I'll just rip the DRM off). You are not doing a single thing towards preventing your book being pirated.


message 28: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments Correction, a single *effective* thing.


message 29: by David (new)

David Hadley Tim wrote: "I have 7. 8 if you include cloud reader. By choosing DRM, all you are doing is inconveniencing me (not a lot, cos I'll just rip the DRM off). You are not doing a single thing towards preventing your book being pirated."

The more awkward, irritating and intrusive the DRM type measures become the more likely it is to drive people towards piracy, rather than away from it, just to avoid having to deal with the hassles of the DRM itself.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments I don't know of a single effective thing one can do to prevent piracy. Except not ever uploading your MS to the internet, perhaps.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.


message 31: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments You're not wrong. DRM is just so utterly, utterly pointless.


message 32: by Elle (last edited Apr 24, 2014 04:13PM) (new)

Elle (louiselesley) | 6579 comments A.L. wrote: "Personally I'd rather have DRM on my books. I can understand why people don't like it, but really with, for example Kindle you can have the book on up to 5 devices, and really is anyone going to ne..."

i have me, my mother, my aunt, my mothers best friend, my father and now my brother on MY ACCOUNT. if everyone wants to read the same book (which is unlikely but its been known to happen) i always come across problems with limits. Weirdly enough its generally on the crime books my aunt buys :S


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