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Good thing you posted it under pointless stuff!
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You mean you were like sitting there trying to find a way to combat that? Well, I'm glad I said something. I was just going to like, ex out of the discussion in disgust, but I decided to speak up. It's not that I don't see some of their points. I'm just tired of people trashing Twilight. It's a LOVE STORY for heaven's sake. Not a Shakespearian work of art. Leave it alone!!!! Stop analyzing it!!! Who cares if Bella is clumsy!!!!! Or random stuff! Idk what I'm saying...
7.All the rules Meyer sets for being a vampire are broken by the end of the series.
8.Not only that, she breaks rules set by more esteemed authors.
What does this mean? WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?!? SINCE WHEN DO ESTEEMED AUTHORS MAKE RULES?!?????
50.Edward Cullen is sparkly; crows like sparkly things. ???????????????????
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51.Do any guys actually like Twilight? First of all this comment is HORRIBLY sexist and man-emphasizing. It's implying that if no guys like Twilight, then it's a horrible book.
EXCUSE ME?!?!??
Second of all, check this out:
www.twilightguy.com
aaric, I'm not trying to start a twilight war thingy here. but i'm just saying that not all girls who like twilight are airheaded blondes who run around drooling over edward. i just like it i guess because it's a love story and it's a fantasy and it's a book. too bad if they're are some flaws. i've seen worse.
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Juliet wrote: "aaric, I'm not trying to start a twilight war thingy here. but i'm just saying that not all girls who like twilight are airheaded blondes who run around drooling over edward. i just like it i guess..."I used to like Twilight, sooo... I copied and pasted that from the Twilight Haters group.
Catie wrote: "I'm a brunette. I love Twilight. I don't drool over Edward either. It's a good book. It's one of my favs. I agree with Juliet. This book is for guys too. I know two boys that like Twilight."RIGHT ON!!!
Aaric wrote: "Juliet wrote: "aaric, I'm not trying to start a twilight war thingy here. but i'm just saying that not all girls who like twilight are airheaded blondes who run around drooling over edward. i just ..."...
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YEAH!
:Di'm currently trying to find something really pointless, but i'm failing...
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i just rewatched it and realized it seems very stupid and pointless if you don't know the bandthey have a wacky sense of humor.
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1.Bella is a perfect character ("Mary Sue"), which Meyer hides by calling her clumsy. She's not flawless. You cannot call her whiny, clingy, and unhealthily dependent while also called her flawless.
3.She can't do anything without Edward. True. She is a bit too dependent on him.
4.And when he leaves she attempts to commit suicide. Ok. She is *way* too dependent on him. This is one of the reasons that I like Elisabeth better. One of the main points of Elisabeth is about Elisabeth's struggle to be free and independent from everyone, including the romantic lead, Death.
5.Meyer is living out her own fantasies by writing about Bella, who is clearly herself. Plenty of people do that. Not many get rich off of it. I'm not using that as a compliment for her, just as a statement. Imagine if you could get rich by writing your fantasty life...
6.The books aren't well written, just because every other word is a fancy adjective doesn't make it good writing. I've heard a lot of things claimed about Twilight, but I've never heard anyone say that here use of "fancy" adjectives is a reason for liking it.
7.All the rules Meyer sets for being a vampire are broken by the end of the series. Like what?
8.Not only that, she breaks rules set by more esteemed authors. What rules do authors set? Isn't an author's job partly to do something new, that's not a convention. I'm not saying that she does, but I'm just saying that that's not really a valid argument.
9.The world population will come to an end because all girls who read this book will think they are Bella and will wait for their Edward to come until they are old. And he'll never come. This is my least favorite argument. Every girl I know who fangirls over Twilight is most impressed by his being respectful. It's a sad thing if wanting a respectful guy is setting our standards too high. I don't know any fangirl who is honestly waiting for a sparkly vampire boyfriend.
10.Bella almost dies fifty thousand times, but Edward always saves her. This is boring. If she died off in the beginning, there would be less books, and Steph Meyer would make less money.
11.Edward is too perfect and has no flaws either. Even vampires should have flaws besides wanting to suck human blood because it's natural to them. He has flaws. Just, no fans seem to acknowledge them. He is condescending, stalkerish, and he treats the boys who crush on Bella like dirt (am I the only one who thinks this last one?)
12.The reason the books became so popular is because Bella has no personality and any loser can put themselves in her shoes. Books can be written as a fanasty, as an escape from reality. I've imagined myself in the place of many heroines, that doesn't make them bad heroines from bad books.
14.Bella teaches women to let the man handle everything, which pretty much is a huge step backward for women everywhere, who have fought for equality. This is why I like Elisabeth. She fights to remain independent fromt the men in her life.
17.Bella is a useless, whining, doll that suddenly has become the idol for girls everywhere. It's true that she's not much of a role model.
19.Edward is extremely possessive, border-line abusive, and boring as anything.
It's too cliché. The main problem I have with his behavior is that Bella doesn't fight back. She does whatever he tells her. Once again, this is why I like Elisabeth better. Death (the romantic lead) is cocky, full of himself, and sometimes agressive, but Elisabeth goes against him and his ego, and can fight against his agression.
22.You don't have to describe the character every two pages, we know all about Edward's 'perfectly toned chest' the fourth time she mentions it. Quite true. The descriptions did get tiresome after a while.
25.Her vampires sparkle. Enough said. The sparkling vampires was an interesting idea. I honestly like it, although it's not that intimidating.
27.There is too much face touching. I have no problem with the face touching. It's cute at times.
30.Meyer can't think of original names. The only original name she used was Rennesme, which is combination of two names and doesn't count. Since when is original names necessary to be a good story?
33.People think Meyer is the best writer ever. People are allowed to think she is the best author, just as you're allowed to disagree.
35.Wow, yet another 'original' plot of forbidden love. Shakespeare wasn't very original either, and no one ever gave him a hard time. (I am *not* comparing Meyer's overall abilities to Shakespeare)
36.Why is it called the Twilight Series if only one book is titled Twilight? Why is the Gone series called so when only the first is called "Gone"?
37.It's too easy to mock. Go on Youtube, how many mocks on Twilight do you see? How many Harry Potter parodies do you see?
39.Stephanie Meyer creates some interesting characters ie: Jasper and Alice. She then ignores them, and gives them no development. This is my biggest pet peeve in the whole series. I love the minor characters!
43.It's stupid. My least favorite type of argument. It's right up there with "Shut up".
46.Meyer wrote four books about nothing, really. Have you ever wandered through the romance section of a book store. There are so many romance series with 20, 30 books. Do you think they have much of a plot?
47.Straight men sparkle? Yes, they do. The Hungarian Deaths are very sparkly and very straight.
51.Do any guys actually like Twilight? Yes, one of my friends from another thread is a guy, and Twilight is one of his favorite books.
53.There's far too little actual conflict in the story. But this probably stems from having a flawless main character. The first part is true, although you can easily have conflict with a "flawless" main character.
54.They fall in love way too quickly and it seems fake because no one falls in love instantly, especially teenagers. I believe in love at first sight. I don't think it always happens, but it does happen sometimes. Elisabeth and Death fell in love at first sight.
55.They only love each other because she smells good and he's hot. There's no other given reason why. That is true...
56.It's just not healthy to teach young girls that True Love involves the guy watching you while you sleep. That was *really* creepy.
58.She had only been in Forks for a month when Edward had been watching her sleep for two months. I did not even realize that. I wonder if that's a typo, or if Edward is just really stalkerish...
It also really annoys me when people discount people once they say that Twilight is one of their favorite books. People are entitled to their own opinions!
Congratulations if you read this all the way through. That takes an insane amount of pacience.
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What didn't you agree with? Just curious. I promise not to bite your head off. :D
Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) wrote: "I have a few opinions on Aaric's long comment on Twilight. I agree on some points, but not on others. It also has random comparisons between Twilight and the German musical Elisabeth. 1.Bel..."
YOU ROCK! For writing all of that out...I also agree with most of what you said. AWESOME!
I'm sorry. And I guess it isn't. But you brought it up. :(Let's change the subject!
Ok. New Moon sucks. Jk but, it does.
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I'm not against you Aaric. I agree with some of what you said, just not all of it.
Aaric wrote: "Ok. New Moon sucks. Jk but, it does."NO DUH! New Moon is the worst of them. Because of JACOB! I...LOATHE HIM!!!!!!
Plus, the whole time Bella gets really whiny. When I reread that one, I read the first three chapters and then the last few.
And Breaking Dawn isn't that great either.
I LIKE THE SERIES! But, I CAN find flaws in them. I'm not a blind follower. Unlike how I act with Harry Potter.
It was supposed to rain here but then it got real hot. Like, too hot.
And I hate Taylor Lautner too. Some people are like, "GASP! FAINT! THROW UP IN A PAPER BAG!"And I'm like HHPMG. I've seen him act in THE ADVENTURES OF SHARK BOY AND LAVA GIRL!!!!
http://z.about.com/d/movies/1/0/y/M/7...
Nothing more needs to be said.
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Hurray for blindly following Harry Potter!
For the love of god, is there anything else to talk about besides twilight?
Ummmm, wow I thought you were the other Juliet for a second...
Well, I just found this really amazing song by Motion City Soundtrack.Other than that I'm bored and can't think of anything else to talk about.
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That stinks. :( I'm sorry.Maybe she'll find it...right now!
has anyone seen any good movies lately?
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Juliet wrote: "has anyone seen any good movies lately?"
Yes Man. Very funny.
Plus it has Jim Carrey, a very funny comedian from CANADA (woohoo!) and like 13 Eels songs on the soundtrack.
Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) wrote: "The RMS closes in a hour and twenty minutes, it takes half an hour to get there, and you have to wait in line for about an hour and a half before you can take the test. Oh well, *bursts into song*..."I feel so bad for you!! At least you can sing about it! :D
How long did it take you to make that? What a WASTE of time. :D