The Mysterious Benedict Society and The Prisoner's Dilemma
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I just started the book but have read the whole series so this is what I noticed throughout the series. I think the tone of the character's dialogues are more important than the actual content of what they're saying. Since the group relies so heavily on one another, when one says something negative they all got down. This is especially true with Reynie, because the group always looks to him in moments of conflict, when he says something in a negative way, the whole group gets down. What do you think?
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In the whole series yes you are right. Reynie is the "boss" of the group. It also is true that they look at him when in trouble. He is relied during the riddles but sometimes Constance can figure it out. Constance is the the 2nd head of the group because of her ability.
I agree with you but I think Constance's dialogue is generally not important. Since he is so young she looks up to Reynie almost like a brother so when he says something negative she gets negative. This is the same for the other characters. However with Constance, when she says something negative, the group just gets annoyed but does not have a big attitude change, but if Reynie said something in a negative tone, the group would get negative.
i agree about Reynie but the group also relies on Constance. It is true if Constance says something negative they get annoyed but their happy mood can die down. For instance when the group was happy that they defeated a ten man Constance would interrupt and say something like 10 more are coming, and make the mood depressed.
I never really thought about it that way, I was thinking of instances such as when the group is trying to think of a plan and Constance would make an annoying poem that annoyed them, but not discouraged them. Now thinking about it though I think you are right because when Constance indicates a new challenge that they didn't know what was coming, they would get depressed. However it is more of the content of what she says, not how she says it. For Reynie it is not the content, but how he says it because he isn't saying negative thing, but saying it in a depressed tone.
its still a good thing that she says that its better to be prepared then happy espiacialy with ten men
Miles wrote: "I never really thought about it that way, I was thinking of instances such as when the group is trying to think of a plan and Constance would make an annoying poem that annoyed them, but not discou..."I also agree. its a challenge for the whole group to work together especially when Constance annoys them. But when Constance paranoids them the mood dies.
I have really realized that all the characters have changed their dialogue in the book. I really think that Sticky has changed a lot. When we first meet him during the testing in the first book, he is very shy and cowardly. You can also see that he does not believe in himself, and really underestimates himself and his abilities. But throughout the first 2 books and this book, he becomes a much more confident character. This is shown in how he speaks to others. He is more brave and knowledgeable when he talks to his leader and other characters in the group. He really works well with others through his discussions with Reynie, the way he explains things and how he says it.Even though we still see a shy and smart kid, I really see that Sticky has become a dynamic character through the evolution in his dialogue.
I agree with Sean that reynie is really the boss of the group
I agree Ritvik. I think that again it's not so much what Sticky says, but how he says it. By the confident tone Sticky uses, readers can realize that he is dynamic in the sense that he is become more confident and assertive in his actions, compares to the worried frantic slef he was.
"i agree" is all anyone here says no arguments no conflicts just I AGREE over and over
Constance has also really changed her dialogue. In the beginning she really was rude, ill-mannered, and had a mean tone. But I think she has really changed. I know I rally say this a lot, but it just keeps on showing up in the book. Like I have said, the way she talks really brings out her actions. Her actions affect the team good and bad. Mostly in the 1st book, her actions hurted the team. The rude comments hurt all of them. I think it hurt Reynie and Sticky more. Reynie thought he was not leading things correctly. Sticky thought that he was not thinking hard enough. But now, in the 2nd and 3rd book, she has changed a lot. Her dialogue shows that she helps the team. Her tiny poems are more as a joke. Her actions are affected by her dialogue. She has helped the team by doing well in her work. Like Miles said, she points out the obvious. Her dialogue has really becomes more nice. It is also helpful to them because they are also very intelligent. The dialogue has really changed the character of Constance.
I think that Ritvik is partially right, but I think part of why the gang reacts differently is that they now know she is really young. In the 1st book they took more offense to her comments because they thought she was a really immature/nasty kid. However, in the 2nd and 3rd book she still makes the rid comments but the gang knows she can't help herself because she is only a toddler. I feel that people's perception of her changed, not as much her dialogue.
Yes i also agree with Miles. Constance was 3 in the first book but they didn't know. That's why it did affect them. They were just getting to know each other and then Constance would always interrupt. in the 2nd and 3rd They go easy on her after her ability and age is revealed.
isn't that the point if there's no argument its not helping anyone learn as much as they could but i don't mean screaming at each other but like a way to see more that you couldn't see before
Ritvik wrote: "Well do you want to have an argument?"isn't that the point to leran more that you couldn't if you always agree with eachother but i don't mean we should be angry at eachother
I agree with Sean and Miles. I think the group does see that her age is much younger than they are. But I guess they act like they do towards in the 1st book because they think she is an amazing genius. They really change the way they act towards her because they see the way she thinks about things. The age of Constance also affects her dialogue. She is a little less immature than the rest of them. But, she is also very mature for a toddler. Her dialogue is not shown as much. Like Sean said, in the 1st book, you really only hear her dialogue in interruptions. This gives the reader a sense that she might not have manners and that she interrupts a lot. But then you learn she has better conversations, especially with Kate. She talks about her past. She talks about things and plans that will help the team succeed in there mission. I think Constance's dialogue is showing up more and more throughout the series.
gal we should agree and add on to one another to learn more and more about the series. the more we add the more we will know in depth about the book.
Yes Gal this isn't about just arguing and posting comments like Aren't we supposed to fight? and actually comment.
but we would still get more interesting information in arguing and maybe more info i genral
what do you guys think about the way how mr.mccracken talked to milligan?
"'It's almost over, Milligan," McCracken said, swinging his briefcase around with the force of a wrecking ball. "You see that, don't you.'" This shows the dialogue of how Mr.McCracken talks to Milligan. I think he shows that he is superior to Milligan and that he will win the fight. His tone shows that he is a very arrogant man. His stubborness also shows his own character and that he will not give up to Milligan. I think the dialogue of Mr.McCracken really affected the fight between Milligan and him. A reason this was a favored fight for the Mr.McCracken was because Milligan was not in the form to fight. The upper hand of Mr.McCracken was also an important part to this important fight.
Ritvik wrote: ""'It's almost over, Milligan," McCracken said, swinging his briefcase around with the force of a wrecking ball. "You see that, don't you.'" This shows the dialogue of how Mr.McCracken talks to Mill..."Well hes not arrpgent he just knows that he will win and he is more superior
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