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Because you posted this, I have started Murder on the Oxford Canal, and am enjoying it. In general the word “gripping” in the title or description of a book is a huge “ no” for me. I don’t know why, probably because it is so overused. Every book in the series has “a gripping crime novel full of twists” attached to the title. I know I said that I am enjoying this book, and I am, but I am not finding it “gripping”.

Ha, I started the same book as a results of Diane's recommendation (and have also read the second in the series, Murder at the University), and agree with you. Both were very enjoyable (but not gripping).
The list of British slang at the back of my Kindle edition was amusing - it made me wonder if the author is not a native Brit, since some of the terms aren't quite what I'd expect. There's a bit in the second novel where Hillary is noted to have had "the opportunity to study art as a second major" which is not the way British degrees work.
Current mysteries on the go are:
Scrublands: The No. 1 Bestselling Thriller in Australia
Nemesis
The Devil Aspect
Scrublands: The No. 1 Bestselling Thriller in Australia

Nemesis

The Devil Aspect


Susan, I think I will try to read this series again despite being disappointed in the coarse language from #4 The Dirty Duck. I had lunch with one of my friends over the weekend who has read the entire series and she said that the language isn't as bad in the rest of the series. I don't mind a smattering of coarse language but cannot tolerate rampant cursing/swearing/vulgarity just for the sake of it. Because I truly got to like Jury, Plant, and his opportunistic aunt and the other characters, so I will it another go. Do you remember anything about the language from reading this series? Thank you

I've only read the first 3 of this series and The Lamorna Wink which is the one I read first (as I was in Lamorna at the time) and that made me buy the series. My next will be The Dirty Duck, but I don't think I remember swearing in the later book.

Thanks for the information, Jill.

Yay! Another who doesn't see the point of the coarseness "just for the sake of it."

Am now going to read Moriarty by Anthony Horowitz. I read The House of Silk and liked that so time for the next in the Sherlock Holmes series by this author.

I am on my 15th book and I have no recollection of bad language. Maybe I just have a selective memory.




Hey, Shannon! I read this entire series years ago because I also enjoyed Plant and Jury and the recurring characters- I don’t remember the language being that bad among the main characters, I enjoyed their humor and friendship (and yes, Plant’s horrid aunt!) I hope you enjoy it if you read on. I have to check back in with Martha Grimes, I believe she wrote other things for awhile then went back to Jury with a new book in the last couple years.


I thought the same when the Kay Scarpetta books switched to third person and I don't even like those that much. I know it gives the author the chance to use other narrative voices and show scenes where the protagonist isn't present, but I'm not sure the trade is worth it. Hoping that the next book in the series switches back.
That's interesting, Annabel - I also find it a bit odd when a series chops and changes from one to the other. I wonder if it sometimes has something to do with the nuts and bolts of the mystery in question - if it needs scenes where the detective isn't there, as you say.


I read the first couple books in this series and enjoyed them- thanks for the reminder, Annabel, to get back to it.
Susan in NC wrote: "Annabel wrote: "I am reading Miss Klopp's Midnight Confessions
. I love this series but was horrified to discover that for this one, she has swi..."
I read them all as they came out, never noticed the switch and can't tell you if first person returns. I feel very unobservent.

I read them all as they came out, never noticed the switch and can't tell you if first person returns. I feel very unobservent.



Was the Sara Rosett book good, Jemima? That's a new name to me. I'm also a fan of the Angela Marchmont books.
Me too, Judy. A little non-PC for Marsh. It's reminding me a bit of Christianna Brand at the moment (not that I don't love her books, but she also tended to have some stereotypical, effeminate male characters in her books).



Thanks Susan, Elizabeth(Alaska) and Jan C for your points about the Richard Jury series. I am going to see my mom this weekend (4 hours each way) and have opted to listen to Jerusalem Inn on the way there. I hope to enjoy it.

Thanks Susan, Elizabeth(Alaska) and Jan ..."
Me, too! Drive safely and have a lovely visit!



Good to know, I’ve been recommended those on Amazon but haven’t tried them yet - so many books, so little time - lovely problem to have! Those do sound lovely, I enjoy a historical mystery.

Am I therefore not the only one starting to ignore any book which adds "A gripping mystery" to its title. I kind of feel that if you have to tell me how gripping/terrifying/whatever your book is, then it is probably not very good at actually conveying that to the reader.

Didn't realise this series is set in Sri Lanka. I've been meaning to try it and would love some books set in that part of the world.

Yes, that’s pretty much exactly how I feel. In particular I am easily annoyed by the word “gripping”.
I'm guessing it is often the publisher who adds the word "gripping" rather than the author, though!


A real turn-off for me.
Jemima wrote: "Judy the Rosett book was good. A lighthearted, frivolous romp through high early 20s society. It felt authentic and the character development was good. A great first in the series. I was so busy en..."
Thanks, Jemima, sounds up my street. I'll add it to my TBR.
Thanks, Jemima, sounds up my street. I'll add it to my TBR.
Susan wrote: "Me too, Judy. A little non-PC for Marsh. It's reminding me a bit of Christianna Brand at the moment (not that I don't love her books, but she also tended to have some stereotypical, effeminate male..."
I agree - I think Final Curtain will make for an interesting discussion. I'm currently dashing to finish it because someone else has ordered the digital library copy I'm reading!
I've recently picked up a secondhand copy of the next Christianna Brand in the Inspector Cockerill series, Suddenly at His Residence, and hope to read that one soon.
I agree - I think Final Curtain will make for an interesting discussion. I'm currently dashing to finish it because someone else has ordered the digital library copy I'm reading!
I've recently picked up a secondhand copy of the next Christianna Brand in the Inspector Cockerill series, Suddenly at His Residence, and hope to read that one soon.


Interesting. I ignored the "gripping" label and read the books even though it annoyed me. I think that I will share this conversation with the publisher (Joffe books.)

I managed to finish the library e-copy of Final Curtain an hour before it would have been swept from my Kindle - and will hope to borrow it again to refresh my memory for our discussion!
Judy wrote: "I managed to finish the library e-copy of Final Curtain an hour before it would have been swept from my Kindle - and will hope to borrow it again to refresh my memory for our discussion!"
I believe if you use your kindle off-line the book will remain until you next sync. I think I verified this long ago. Not sure if others in line have to wait for you to finish. I have a 'dumb' (bottom of the line) kindle so that may affect results.
I believe if you use your kindle off-line the book will remain until you next sync. I think I verified this long ago. Not sure if others in line have to wait for you to finish. I have a 'dumb' (bottom of the line) kindle so that may affect results.

I've even returned a book and it was still on my kindle. And yes, I don't have the wifi turned on on my kindle except to download recently purchased items and to upload highlights.
That's interesting, thanks Sandy and Elizabeth- I'll bear it in mind if I get close to the wire another time!
I've started reading The Wheel Spins (The Lady Vanishes) by Ethel Lina White, ready for next month's group read. For anyone considering joining in on this one, here are a lot of cheap editions around under both titles.

I just spent most of a lunch-hour in WH Smith looking for new mysteries to read and while I didn't notice any 'gripping' blurbs, I was struck by the similarity of the dustjackets in the crime/thriller section. Almost all used the same blocky block-capital font, a short violent title (DEAD WATER, HIGH IMPACT, that sort of thing) and an arty, usually black and white, photograph of something violent. It was depressingly similar and made me not want to read any of them.
I must admit I've started to become tediously obsessive over dustjackets - won't read anything with a photographic cover, will read almost anything with a nice illustration or even better, a woodcut. Generally an illustrated crime cover means cosy (retro, contemporary or reissued) crime and that's probably a better fit for me.
Anyone else choosing their books by their covers??

While we are repeatedly told we shouldn't judge a book by its cover, its definitely hard not to do so. I know that I personally was drawn to the Brother Cadfael series from Ellis Peters when I saw the medieval covers in the library.

No, but titles attract me. On GR the covers posted in threads are too small to be of any use to these older eyes. I know people in this group really like covers, but I just skip any post that is simply a mass of covers. I appreciate especially the posts where the covers are in a large size, because I *do* find covers interesting when I'm already interested in the book. We've enjoyed seeing differences in covers.
I do like good covers and find them interesting... but must admit I have come unstuck by choosing a few books because of lovely covers, then finding that the contents don't live up to them!
When posting book titles for freebies, etc, I always try to post the title and the cover. Titles can be mis-leading, but I agree that you can often see if a book will have any interest by the cover. Not always, but often. Also, book links on Goodreads don't show the author, so it is easy to miss something you might have wanted to actually read, if it is book 4, or 5, in a series and you skip over something by a favourite author.

I'm not a particularly visual person, so cover matters less to me, but I often get emails from either Amazon or some of the publishers like Endeavour and it is obvious that all the books in the email had the same cover designers. At that point I lose interest because I think it shows that not not enough effort is made.
A striking cover can definitely sell a book. My favourite:

I will certainly pick up a book because of its cover, but often put it back down. So they certainly serve their marketing purpose as I give them a look. I'm attracted by elaborate frilly art work:
,
, and one with a swan on a river I can't remember now. The covers often tempt me into fantasy, but I seldom follow.


P.S. Looked up my third cover,
where the swan is the river.
The only one of these I have actually read is Essex Serpent. The Swan has made it to my TBR, and Silver I own on audio.

The only one of these I have actually read is Essex Serpent. The Swan has made it to my TBR, and Silver I own on audio.

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