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message 51: by Kandice (new)

Kandice Lisa wrote: "Man that's a hard one! There are so many things I love and want to learn more about. I think if I could go back and start all over, I would loved to have been an archeologist. I remember wanting to..."

I wanted to be an archaeologist when I was a child!!!!!!


message 52: by Lisa (last edited Nov 19, 2015 11:01AM) (new)

Lisa (lml369_07) | 1048 comments Mod
Wow that's amazing! That would be a close second for me along with being a historian and a librarian haha. Not to mention how I would give my left arm to have studied abroad!
That's awesome you wanted to be one too haha. I still would love to study at least some of it one day!


message 53: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (mentha) | 333 comments I wish I'd win the lottery sometimes, just so I'd never have to work and can study all the subjects I like for the rest of my life. English, literature, art, biology and chemistry, history and maybe even maths. Sadly, no can do.


message 54: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lml369_07) | 1048 comments Mod
Oh man Jenny I understand that! I always wanted to be rich so that I could travel and explore the world and learn all the awesomeness that the world has to offer. I think that's always been the reason I like Vampires and other immortal or long living beings (Newer versions of said things not including by how ridiculous they are). It wasn't ever really because they seem mysterious in a sexy way or anything. It was just the thought of having hundreds and hundreds of years to take in everything awesome humanity has given us. I would want to become immortal not for power or anything but so that I could move around the globe and live in different places, get acquainted with different cultures and peoples. Learn languages and master all the different subjects I love and even going into the future and watching humanity be able to conquer space travel and all the awesome advances in technology and just everything. That would be so amazing! Lonely I suppose but still awesome haha


message 55: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (mentha) | 333 comments Yes! Yes yes yes! Even if the world would end and humanity has to start over I want to watch it. If I ever got a wish I'd wish to be a true shape shifter. I'd live out my live, then turn myself into a baby, maybe one of a different culture or something, and start over. I'm a shapeshifter so I'd also be immune to sicknesses of every type I chose and heal all wounds and broken bones. I'd learn new things, languages, study different subjects and how they change over time. I'd hide things away for centuries and then dig them up as found artefacts and live of what I make by selling them.

I have the same feeling for vampires as you do, too. I don't want immortality per se, but I want time. Lots and lots of time. To read, to travel, to learn. Not to shag Bella Swan >-<


message 56: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lml369_07) | 1048 comments Mod
Haha! So glad you feel that way too! It would be so amazing to be able to take in everything that it means to be human and from every corner of the globe! All the wisdom and knowledge you gain would be just magnificent! Also, burying artifacts and digging them up later for profit is an amazing idea as is becoming a baby and growing up in a culture! I never even looked at it from that point of view but growing up in a culture would be so much more of an experience than just living in it for awhile. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way!!


message 57: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (mentha) | 333 comments Have you read The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August? In it a man lives, dies, then is born again by the same parents on the same day in the same way. But knows everything from his past lives. So he got lots of time but only from the early 1900s to the early 2000s. He too runs away as a child a lot because having to relearn his ABCs is just so damn tedious. He becomes a professor of some sort in most of his lives. In others he travels and learns new languages or explores religions and philosophies. He even meets a man at some point who likes the thrill of war and joins in in every conflikt on the globe in one side or another. Fighting on the losing side (he already knows how every conflict ends) is just another challenge. He does not need to win. Just likes fighting and politics.

I'd like something like that too. But I'd like to be able to pick where in time and space I end up so I can live among the first cultures of human kind and even the later ones. The ancient egyptians. The native Americans before half of europe showed up. The Australian aboridginee and the Maori of new zeeland. I'd like to know what it is like to live as a nobel(wo)man in the middelages or as a poor farmer. I want to live in this era so I can read all the great fiction written in this century. I don't wanna change anything, I just wanna observe, learn. Oh why is my life so short! 80-ish years is just not enough. If I even make it that far.


message 58: by Kandice (new)

Kandice As much as I would love to experience how others live, and see every place possible, I don;t think I would want extended life. I think it would grow tedious. I guess if you were guaranteed good health it might be ok, but that seems almost impossible. I've been caring for my elderly father-in-law for the last 8 months and it has really made me rethink life.

I only want to live as long as I can really live and not be dependent or a burden on anyone else.


message 59: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lml369_07) | 1048 comments Mod
I think you have mentioned that book before Jenny because I remember thinking about how awesome it sounds. I really need to go buy it. And I think that would be a great way to actually live but I agree with you about how I would want to chose the time that you lived in. It would be absolutely amazing to have lived as an ancient Egyptian, native American, a viking, and so on and so forth. And I would also just want to sit back and observe, nothing else.

Kandice, I do see your point of view too, especially with what you've been going through with your father-in-law. I can't tell you how awesome that is of you. People like you are so amazing to me because I can't even imagine the emotional pain you go through seeing the way a life can end. You are an amazing person in my book.


message 60: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (mentha) | 333 comments Kandice wrote: "As much as I would love to experience how others live, and see every place possible, I don;t think I would want extended life. I think it would grow tedious. I guess if you were guaranteed good hea..."

Hence the shapeshifting. :) No point in getting old (though I'd live out my lives till my legs would not bare me no more) if I don't have the physical freedom to learn new skills and knowledge with relative ease. Other people though... I guess having kids would be terribly unwise. Most people I know and care about will die before me regardless of my hypothetical immortality. Although, my mom used to say that I would get killed one day, way before my time, by being sarcastic at the wrong moment.

Lisa: I told a friend about the idea and he pointed out that if that were possible, it would mean the timeline is fixed and that means there is no such thing as a free wilk. Not sure if I like that idea. He also said he'd like to travel to the 1920ties and bribe the artschool Hitler did not get into to take him on anyway. I don't want to change anything but I get the sentiment. Would have been a lot better then the mess the war turned out to be. :)


message 61: by Kandice (new)

Kandice Thanks Lisa.

The other thing is what Jenny said about everyone you care for and love dying. If anyone watches Doctor Who that is a plot line through every Doctor. Everyone he loves just fades away and he is left. Sad.


message 62: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (mentha) | 333 comments Yeah. Though I think I'd last quite long before the depression dragged me down. I could befriend other "immortals" and we would study the world together. :D


message 63: by Kandice (new)

Kandice So this morning we had a pancake breakfast as a thank you to the parents of the children in the school (I'm acting Director at the moment) to thank them for participation in our fundraiser. We had about 120 people there and I just tallied up the fundraiser. We MADE over $1300! We only have 75 students, so that's pretty impressive!

We were also collecting donation in boxes on the tables for PizzaIDF for a Chanukah program they are doing and we collected enough to send a company sufganyot (Jewish jelly doughnuts).

This was a red letter day!


message 64: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (mentha) | 333 comments Sooo... you got the day off? (Röda dagar, red days are swedish national holidays)


message 65: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lml369_07) | 1048 comments Mod
Congrats Kandice!! That must be an awesome feeling to raise so much money!! And Jenny, for Americans, a red letter day simply means its a memorable or noteworthy day.


message 66: by Kandice (new)

Kandice I definitely did NOT get the day off. I was here at 6:30 a.m. and will leave about 4.


message 67: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lml369_07) | 1048 comments Mod
Sorry you didn't have the day off but at least it was a productive one!


message 68: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (mentha) | 333 comments Awww no day off! But productive days are cool too. What are the funds you raised going to be used for?


message 69: by Kandice (new)

Kandice Our graduating students are going to a Museum of Tolerance for a field trip. I want to get a bus, their tickets and tours and buy them all a nice dinner in Los Angeles.


message 70: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (mentha) | 333 comments Yes! Road trip! They will totally enjoy that!


message 71: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (mentha) | 333 comments Does anyone know what the average amount of books is for the completed goodreads book challenges? Not just the average amount of books pledged per challenge. Because I'm pretty curious to how much the average goodreads user with an active account reads per year.


message 72: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (mentha) | 333 comments Does anyone know what the average amount of books is for the completed goodreads book challenges? Not just the average amount of books pledged per challenge but the average of books pledged for each completed one?


message 73: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lml369_07) | 1048 comments Mod
Jenny wrote: "Does anyone know what the average amount of books is for the completed goodreads book challenges? Not just the average amount of books pledged per challenge but the average of books pledged for eac..."

That is a very interesting question. I really have no idea haha. I guess that would really involve going to some of the big challenges and looking through what all the people have read and everything. I'm not aware of any specific place that will tell you the average amount of books someone has read for a challenge. I can look into it and see if I'm able to find anything out for ya though!


message 74: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (mentha) | 333 comments Cool, thanks :) And I'm talking about the big-big-read-X-amount-of-books-this-year-challenge. Goodreads gives the average of books pledged per challenge but not books per completed one and somehow I kinda hoped I'd missed a statistic somewhere. I have pledged 70 books, the average is 55 but most of them don't get finished. ... i just like stats ^,^


message 75: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lml369_07) | 1048 comments Mod
Ok Jenny, this is what I've found so far. This page just lists people that are on my friends list and I actually found this through Google. I typed in 'Is there a way to calculate the average amount of books read for a goodreads challenge' and this was the second result. It shows how many books my friends have read if they made a pledge and then at the top it shows kind of general info about the 2015 reading challenge:
Participants 1,707,897
Books Pledged 94,263,408
Books Finished 25,755,000
Avg. Books Pledged 55
Challenges Completed 6,953
Time Left 36 days, 11 hours
I'm still digging around to see what I can find but let me know if this at least a little of what you were interested in!


message 76: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (mentha) | 333 comments Ah these I was able to find. But lists only the average amount of pledged books per challenge, regardless if these are finished challenges or not. I wanna know the average amount of read books of all finished goodreads challengers. T.T I need to satisfy my curiosity!


message 77: by Kandice (new)

Kandice Diane, there are two schools in the facility where I work and we have, literally, hundreds of small lizards every day. I often catch them for the kids. They love them.


message 78: by Kandice (new)

Kandice We have alligator lizards and some that look like geckos, but I don't know if they really are. They have more rounded heads and feet. The gecko looking ones are sometimes tiny and so, so cute! Alligator lizards are just kind of blah.

We have a lot of snakes, but none like you are describing. I wonder what that is? Weird. This summer they actually found a rattlesnake in the sand box so now we cover it tightly at the end of each school day.


message 79: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (mentha) | 333 comments I just got slowworms who winter in the stone wall around my garden. They come out all at once the moment the weather gets nice in spring. They are harmless lil snake-lizards and so cute :)


message 80: by Kandice (new)

Kandice I just looked slowworms up having never heard of them. I don't think they're cute -_-, but I also wouldn't be afraid of them. Strange little animal.


message 81: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lml369_07) | 1048 comments Mod
Diane that's really awesome that you're getting over your fear of snakes! I wish I could say the same about spiders haha. They still scare the pants off me! I like snakes unless they startle me. I grew up on a farm where rattlesnakes were a constant worry and so it's just a knee jerk reaction to run away first and find out what kind of snake it is later. We do get a lot of these tiny little orange-ish lizards. They hardly ever get in the house but every once in a while I catch one and I love having my daughter find a perfect little spot outside to set it free again.

Jenny, I've never heard of those slow worms either! They are kinda cute in a weird way. I love lizards and amphibians. I just think they are so cute! I've been wanting to get a chameleon for years now haha.

I hope everyone had a great weekend! Sorry I was a bit MIA. We got some bad storms and so we were unable to go out of town and see family as planned for the holiday and ended up staying in for the last 4 days. It turned out very good though because we all got a lot of family time with just the 3 of us and got Christmas decorations up and I even got enough sleep to finally kick that cold I had for weeks. We were also able to finally get everything set up for our Geek Room. We have a third bedroom in the house that was a computer/storage room area and we'd been wanting to turn into more of a game room/den type thing for so long now and this long weekend indoors gave us the chance to deep clean it and reorganize everything. Thanks to Black Friday we were able to get a nice tv on sale online along with a tv stand that will be for gaming and movie nights. We're going to put in a bookshelf and do a lot of geeky decorating as well. We are super excited. I'll have to post a pic once it's all completed!


message 82: by Kandice (new)

Kandice Lisa, I'm glad you finally kicked the cold. Sometimes forced inside time is the best time, especially when it's just your family. :)

Diane, brave girl!


message 83: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lml369_07) | 1048 comments Mod
Kandice wrote: "Lisa, I'm glad you finally kicked the cold. Sometimes forced inside time is the best time, especially when it's just your family. :)

Diane, brave girl!"


Thank you! I am so glad it's finally over!


message 84: by Kandice (new)

Kandice I can't remember where I posted it, but we went on an Escapism last night and it was so, so much fun! We didn't escape in the allotted 60 minutes, but they let us continue and it only took an extra four minutes. There were only 4 in our group and the room is set up for an ideal party of 8 so I don't feel like that was a fail at all!


message 85: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lml369_07) | 1048 comments Mod
That sounds like an awesome time but I have no idea what an Escapism is haha. Please explain as it sounds super fun and interesting!


message 86: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (mentha) | 333 comments Ooohh yes please tell. I have no clue what escapeism is either but it sounds fun. Is it something you can do online or is it a board game or what?


message 87: by Kandice (new)

Kandice A group of people is locked into a room and you have 60 minutes to solve puzzles and unlock “things” to get the eventual key that will unlock the room and allow you to leave. There ended up being 12 keys we needed to find to eventually unlock the door. There are word games and puzzles and clues all over. Even finding the puzzles is a trick. I’ll try to find a link to an explanation. There’s a link to the actual location we visited, but it doesn’t really explain.


message 88: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lml369_07) | 1048 comments Mod
Kandice wrote: "A group of people is locked into a room and you have 60 minutes to solve puzzles and unlock “things” to get the eventual key that will unlock the room and allow you to leave. There ended up being 1..."

Wow that sounds like a lot of fun! I have never even heard of anything like this! I need to get some people together to do something like this!


message 89: by Kandice (new)

Kandice There seem to be a ton of groupons for these encounters right now no matter where you live. It is completely worth full price, but why not take advantage of a deal?


message 90: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (mentha) | 333 comments Sometimes I'm glad live in nothern europe because we have very vew things here that can kill you. :) Having potentially poisoness snakes indoors with the pets? Brrr no thanks man!


message 91: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lml369_07) | 1048 comments Mod
Whoo that's scary Diane!! I used to come across snakes all the time growing up on a farm but I haven't seen one in the house or anything in the years that I've lived in towns. I think if that happened now I would freak out just a bit haha. Not to mention, I'm sure one of my three overly curious dogs would probably get a little too close and get bitten. :/ Scary stuff!

Kandice, I will definitely have to look into this and get a few friends together that would want to do it with me. I have some people that I play Dungeons and Dragons with among other table top games and I bet they would be interested! Thanks for the info!


message 92: by Kandice (new)

Kandice Lisa, have you ever played Munchkin? It's sort of like D&D lite. I play with my sons and their friends. It's good for groups that change and can't get together regularly like us geeks did in the 80s to play D&D. :D

When I grew up in WVA there were a TON of snakes everywhere, from harmless garters, black snakes, etc. to copperheads and water moccasins. When we would swim someone would have to cannonball in the water first to get the snakes out and everyone would watch them slither out before the rest of us jumped in. I was nominated more often than anyone else, but I'd never do it now.


message 93: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lml369_07) | 1048 comments Mod
Yes I have played Munchkin! I actually just played it with them just a few weeks ago! It's a super fun game haha. We've played it a few times over the years and it's really good for a lot of laughs.

That's crazy! I don't know if I would be brave enough to be the first to jump into snake infested waters. That being said, I was usually in charge of stomping around when me and my brother were waking through the fields on the farm to scare off any snakes who were possibly nearby haha.


message 94: by Kandice (new)

Kandice Munchkin packs are on my Christmas shopping list! It's so fun, silly and entertaining.

Like I said, I did it as a kid. I wouldn't now! Too chicken in my older age.


message 95: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lml369_07) | 1048 comments Mod
Haha! Isn't it funny how we sometimes seem to get MORE afraid of certain things as we get older. I remember when I was younger I was completely fearless. I'd take my old horse out and go galloping off bareback in the fields without a second thought of falling off. I'd climb tall trees and jump off my roof and jump out of the back of my dad's moving work truck just to see how well I could fall. As a teenager I snuck out of my house a lot and walked all over a sleepy pitch dark down all by myself. Now I have to close my eyes when I ride in the truck with my husband and I feel like all of the creatures of the night that my brain can imagine are hot on my heels when I get out of my car and run inside the house at night. I'm much more of a chicken as an adult than I ever was as a child and sometimes it really bothers me haha. I guess growing up and facing my mortality made me a bit more afraid of the daring adventures I used to partake in.


message 96: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (mentha) | 333 comments Oh gosh. I'm still in my 20ties! I want to keep living without fear for the dark or snakes or even wasps. Even though a couple of wasp stings can kill me I'd have to stay inside all summer being afraid if I'd start to care. The things that truely scare me are that I am to stupid to ever hold a real job and will always have to rely on others financially and that my only talent, arts, is going to prove my demise. Why can't I be good at maths or economics or something? *crawls in a ball and shivers* I can't be afraid of the dark if I'll live under a bridge when I hit my mid 30ties!


message 97: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lml369_07) | 1048 comments Mod
Jenny wrote: "Oh gosh. I'm still in my 20ties! I want to keep living without fear for the dark or snakes or even wasps. Even though a couple of wasp stings can kill me I'd have to stay inside all summer being af..."


Oh don't think like that! You've got talent and smarts and even if it's hard, you're the kind of person that will always pick yourself up and keep on keepin' on! There are a lot of people that don't have that drive. Just keep your head up, keep working and you'll get there in some way! I am young still but having a kid when you've just barely turned 20 really pushes your life forward a few years. We had days where my husband and I had nothing to eat because the only food we had was given to our child, we had days where we had to decide whether the water or electricity would be shut off because we didn't have the money to pay for both. We've been pretty low over the years but we always kept fighting and now we may not be well off or even middle class but we're at place now where we're comfortable and have food on the table and all the bills paid, and I have money for books! Things work out as long as you're willing to put in the work and I know that you most definitely are!!


message 98: by Kandice (new)

Kandice Jenny wrote: "Oh gosh. I'm still in my 20ties! I want to keep living without fear for the dark or snakes or even wasps. Even though a couple of wasp stings can kill me I'd have to stay inside all summer being af..."

Again, you seem to be channeling my oldest son! O_o


message 99: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (mentha) | 333 comments Your oldest son is sectretly my long lost twin!

Also, thanks Lisa :) *hugs* Gotta stay positive. If I do end up under a bridge I'll atleast have running water xD


message 100: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (lml369_07) | 1048 comments Mod
lol You'll be fine!!! and *hugs* back!!


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