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message 601: by ilovebakedgoods (Teresa) (last edited Oct 29, 2015 08:23PM) (new)

ilovebakedgoods (Teresa) (ilovebakedgoods) | 226 comments I believe it is passed directly, but if your mother and her sisters come from a mother who had fraternal twins (your aunts) then it is probably possible that your mother also carries the hyper ovulation gene. She just may not have had twins herself, but it makes sense that the gene would pass down to you and your daughters and so on. I don't know if anything increases chances for fraternal twins. I didn't look into that but it is something I would be interested in finding out.


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments ilovebakedgoods (Teresa) wrote: "Re-did some research on fraternal twins because I couldn't remember the part about a father who is a fraternal twin for sure. So, it turns out that a man can carry the gene that causes hyper ovulat..."

Thanks, Teresa! You've just made me ever so happy that I decided never to have kids. ;-)

P.S. In case you've forgotten, I'm the one who had a father who was a fraternal twin. ;-)


ilovebakedgoods (Teresa) (ilovebakedgoods) | 226 comments Haha. Glad I could make you happy.


Lisa - (Aussie Girl) | 6399 comments Identical twins aren't hereditary? I have a family member (thru marriage) where the grandmother had identical twin boys and another son. The other son's daughter has identical twin boys as well. I just assumed it to be hereditary somehow. Interesting things we talk about on Goodreads.


Lisa - (Aussie Girl) | 6399 comments Oh, just re-read the posts. Is this an example of the hyper-ovulation gene I wonder. A man passing onto his daughter I guess. Again, how interesting.


Alison (Lady Coffin) S | 949 comments Very cool!
If I was still to have kids, not likely at my age, then I would have two factors it sounds like. That is definitely something to consider.

Thanks for a stimulating non-book related conversation.

Oh, and Jen, your response had me cracking up. Thanks


message 607: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16594 comments Mod
The things we learn! ;)

And never say never... Yesterday a friend of a friend who is 47 had her first child....


Alison (Lady Coffin) S | 949 comments Karen wrote: "The things we learn! ;)

And never say never... Yesterday a friend of a friend who is 47 had her first child...."


lol!!
Not sure if this was for me of Jen or both...
However,
I would have to find a guy worthy and get to it in the next year.
I have just come to believe that it wasn't in the cards for me.
But yes, never say never. That is when you truly can find yourself in a pickle.
;-)


message 609: by Jen (new)

Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Karen wrote: "And never say never... Yesterday a friend of a friend who is 47 had her first child...."

Bite your tongue! I decided that I did not ever want to have kids when I was only 34 or 35. (I made this decision because I am the fourth in a direct line to have mental health issues; I'm hoping the issues will eventually die with me.) And as I'm now 40, and have no man in my life and no prospects... I'm very comfortable saying "never." ;-)

A first child at age 47?! Wow! Congratulations to your friend! (And good luck? lol)


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Alison (Lady Coffin) wrote: Oh, and Jen, your response had me cracking up. Thanks."

lol You're very welcome. I live to amuse. :-)


message 611: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16594 comments Mod
To both of you Alison ;)

Yes Jen I agree, luck is needed. Single mum (she received donor eggs and sperm from Argentina). Massive life decision!


message 612: by Jen (new)

Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Karen wrote: "Yes Jen I agree, luck is needed. Single mum (she received donor eggs and sperm from Argentina). Massive life decision!"

Wow. That does sound like a massive life decision! Best of luck to her!


message 613: by Alison (Lady Coffin) (last edited Oct 29, 2015 11:15PM) (new)

Alison (Lady Coffin) S | 949 comments Karen wrote: "To both of you Alison ;)

Yes Jen I agree, luck is needed. Single mum (she received donor eggs and sperm from Argentina). Massive life decision!"


Oh wow! Yeah, I just couldn't do that I am more along the lines of where Jen is, but for slightly different reasons.
That would just be too hard financially and emotionally for me, I couldn't pull it off alone. I totally am in awe of single parents they are amazing.


message 614: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16594 comments Mod
I agree. Having a newborn is tough work, it would be extremely difficult on your own. You really need a good, active family/friend network


message 615: by Jen (last edited Oct 29, 2015 11:26PM) (new)

Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Karen wrote: "I agree. Having a newborn is tough work, it would be extremely difficult on your own. You really need a good, active family/friend network"

Yeah, any doubts I had about not wanting a child of own were finally put to rest after I adopted a five-and-a-half week old puppy. I'd swear I went through postpartum depression with him. I shudder to think of how I'd be if I had actually given birth. And then to be responsible for who I'd birthed for 18 years? Well, I'd have lost my sanity for sure. My Max is only almost-two-and-a-half and the time it's taking for him to reach full maturity is turning me gray.

(Of course, I am 40, so it's quite possible I'd be turning gray even without Max in my life. But it's more fun to say it's all his fault. lol)

If I ever were to have a child of my own, I'd probably have to do it the way your friend did (donor sperm, for sure). And then I'd be at risk for having twins, I think. (Shoot me now.) So since I would have to decide to accept donor sperm, I'm again comfortable saying "never going to happen" since that's a decision I will never, ever make.


message 616: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16594 comments Mod
Oh yes, puppies are hard work! What kind of dog is he ?
I had Cat called Max for 17 years. When he died 3 years ago I decided no pets for a while. They can be a lot of work, although studies show they help to make us calmer and live longer!


message 617: by Jen (new)

Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Karen wrote: "Oh yes, puppies are hard work! What kind of dog is he ?
I had Cat called Max for 17 years. When he died 3 years ago I decided no pets for a while. They can be a lot of work, although studies show t..."


My Max is an Australian Cattle Dog mix. His parents are mostly Cattle Dog/German Shepherd and Labrador Retriever/Bull Terrier, with a little Rottweiler, Belgian Tervuren, White Swiss Shepherd, Akita, and Standard Schnauzer thrown in.

He has Cattle Dog coloring, Labrador Retriever personality, Bull Terrier bone density, Akita skull shape (reminiscent of, at least), and a wave of hair down his back from the Standard Schnauzer. He is larger than your typical male Cattle Dog (Max weighs about 80 pounds), which comes from the German Shepherd/Belgain Tervuren/White Swiss Shepherd. His sisters had the look of Rottie puppies when they were babies. And that's all of his breeds, lol. ;-)

My Max is definitely helping me to live longer, since without him I might not be here. He keeps me alive (and calm) better than any of my medications ever did.

And P.S. Karen, don't forget about our buddy read thread for Harry Potter #3. You've been commenting here, but not in our BR thread. Did notifications get shut off for it?


message 618: by Monica (new)

Monica (nutz4reading) I am sitting here on my phone catching up on this thread. I have to comment about twins. I was warned that I could possibly have twins because they ran on my fathers side. Plus I was told they could skip a generation. Now this is over 30 or 40 years ago. They probably know more now then back then. I only had two children about 15 months apart and people thought they were twins. They even thought identical when I had them dressed in boy and girl clothing. My daughter was my twin when she was born. People still say we look alike.

I can't remember whose friend is having a baby at 47 but congrats. I am 47 and would not want to have a baby now. I have my 5 year old dog to keep me happy. I have always said if I had had a dog before my children I probably would never of had them.


message 619: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16594 comments Mod
Wow what an interesting mix Jen! You'll have to post a photo if you can ;)
Sorry I was slack with the HP thread today, I had one of those days with the kids... and so I was only using my phone and the GR app

Monica - 15 months is pretty close together!! That must have been quite difficult when they were young


message 620: by Karsyn (new)

Karsyn  (imzadi) ARGH! Been up for 2.5 hours already (usually not up til about a half hour from now) and all I wanted to do was play some games. I had some random crashes twice in a row with two different games. So, I gave up on games and now my Hubby is playing His game with no issues. Of course.

Why couldn't the challenge have started so I have something to do?! Now I'm just twiddling my thumbs. What to do, when all I wanted to do was play a game? Sigh. :/


message 621: by Berit☀️✨ (new)

Berit☀️✨  (berittalksbooks) Monica I also had kids 13 months apart, and people always asked if they were twins, they are also a boy and a girl, even when it's extremely obvious they weren't when's my daughter was five months and my son was 18 months talking away and he was so though are they twins? I think it was just the double stroller, LOL!
Even five years later when I had my youngest with me people would ask oh is this one of the twins, nope I don't have twins! :-) ;-)


message 622: by ilovebakedgoods (Teresa) (last edited Oct 30, 2015 07:51AM) (new)

ilovebakedgoods (Teresa) (ilovebakedgoods) | 226 comments Will catch up later but just wanted to touch on the old myth of twins skipping a generation - that was touched on in my research yesterday. Basically, the theory of how that myth got started is that it was attributed to the male who passes down the gene from his mother (who let's say in this scenario is a fraternal twin herself). He doesn't have ovaries, therefore HE won't contribute to the reproduction of twins, BUT he can pass that gene to his daughter should he have any, and then SHE might have twins. Therefore, it has "skipped" a generation, by skipping the dad and going to the daughter.

Also, re: identicals: According to science, if you have a million identical twins in your family, it's purely coincidence. The splitting of an egg is a freak thing, it's not something that is genetic.

I like non book talk!


message 623: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16594 comments Mod
Cool - that makes sense!

Yes it has bee a very interesting discussion :)


message 624: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16594 comments Mod
Hi Sarah
That is referring to how a book has been shelved by GR users which shows under "genre" on the right hand side of a page when you look at a book info.
We have a goals FAQ thread here:

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

If you need more info on goals or questions. :)


message 625: by Berit☀️✨ (new)

Berit☀️✨  (berittalksbooks) Teresa, that makes sense, although my grandma so my dad's mom was a twin, and I did not have twins, actually never even thought about it, because it was on my dad side, LOL!


☼♎ Carmen the Bootyshaker Temptress ☼♎ | 7238 comments Hi everybody. I see the chatter about having twin and being a single parent. I have to agree it's hard being a single parent and having children too. I praise my sister for doing it. She had a young child when she had her twins and then only to have the father decide that he couldn't handle it and leave. She had us to help her and I would never trade that for anything. I love those kids like they're my own. I can't believe that they are now in there 20s and her son close to 30. Time flies that's for sure :)


message 627: by Jen (new)

Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Karen wrote: "Wow what an interesting mix Jen! You'll have to post a photo if you can ;)
Sorry I was slack with the HP thread today, I had one of those days with the kids... and so I was only using my phone and ..."


Here's a picture from early September. :-)



No worries about Harry Potter. I was just curious and wanted to make sure you knew I was talking in there. ;-)


message 628: by Sophie, The other one (new)

Sophie (drsophie) | 5684 comments Mod
Learnt a lot about twins!

Jen - your dog looks adorable, but also like he could be a complete monster at times. Has a very playful look in his eye.


message 629: by Jen (last edited Oct 30, 2015 10:50AM) (new)

Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Sophie wrote: "...Jen - your dog looks adorable, but also like he could be a complete monster at times. Has a very playful look in his eye."

lol Sophie! How right you are! And thanks! :-)

He's not yet fully mature, so when the puppy in him has control, all bets are off. And since he weighs 80 pounds, he's more than a handful! But when he's "thinking maturity," he's a great service dog for me. :-)

I'm really (REALLY) looking forward to the day when he'll be fully and truly mature. His vet tells me this will happen sometime between the ages of three and five. (And I think I said somewhere that he's only about two-and-a-half. *sigh*)

lol ;-)


message 630: by Sophie, The other one (new)

Sophie (drsophie) | 5684 comments Mod
We've got a german shepherd/ leonburger who weighs 50kg (110 pounds) whose about 3 now so I really understand what you mean. He's wonderful when he wants to be, but when he decides to be boisterous and play he gets a bit out of hand.

Glad to hear the end might be somewhere near!


message 631: by Jen (new)

Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Sophie wrote: "We've got a german shepherd/ leonburger who weighs 50kg (110 pounds) whose about 3 now so I really understand what you mean. He's wonderful when he wants to be, but when he decides to be boisterous..."

110 pounds? Wow, lucky! (lol I wish Max were bigger, can you tell?) ;-)

I'd love to see a picture if you can share one. :-)


message 632: by Sophie, The other one (last edited Oct 30, 2015 11:16AM) (new)

Sophie (drsophie) | 5684 comments Mod
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message 633: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16594 comments Mod
Wow Jen, he is such an interesting looking dog, I can also see that mischief in his eye ;)
And yours is gorgeous too Sophie.
You've both put this thread into cute overload!

@Carmen - that's tough on your sister. Unfortunately I know a few people in similar situations. In the long term it is probably best when the father makes that decision rather than staying and being more of a hindrance than a help


message 634: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16594 comments Mod
I just came across this story of a guy on a plane who finds the person sitting next to him looks just like him! Doppelgänger instead of twin ;)

http://www.boredpanda.com/bearded-men...


message 635: by Amanda (new)

Amanda (daughterofoak) | 3473 comments Awww! Pretty puppies!
Here is mine. We adopted him a month and a half ago.




message 636: by Sophie, The other one (new)

Sophie (drsophie) | 5684 comments Mod
Aww very cute!


message 637: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16594 comments Mod
Very sweet. Looks like he is smiling ;)


message 638: by Emma (M) (new)

Emma (M) | 1777 comments Sophie, I have a German Shepherd and my sister has a Leonberger. Looking at your photo It's like both our dogs have been morphed. What an interesting mix. I will have to show my sister your photo :)


message 639: by Tara (new)

Tara | 1259 comments Awwww ....I love looking at puppy pictures!

Here's my little old girl....this was a few years ago she's all grey faced now...



ilovebakedgoods (Teresa) (ilovebakedgoods) | 226 comments Love the dog pics! Will have to show off my cats later.


message 641: by Daphne (new)

Daphne (daphnesm) | 937 comments Love all the beautiful canine pics!


message 642: by Sophie, The other one (new)

Sophie (drsophie) | 5684 comments Mod
We've only known he was a cross for the last couple of months. When we rescued him we were told he was a German Shepherd and we thought he was just really big! Was only when I showed a colleague with a Leonberger a photo she said he was probably a mix. Good to have confirmation that he's a mix!


message 643: by Karen Michele (new)

Karen Michele Burns (klibrary) My dear 13 year old doggie!




message 644: by ✿~Danielle~✿ (new)

✿~Danielle~✿ (dmh1) | 5684 comments Loving these pics!


message 645: by Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado (new)

Karen ⊰✿ | 16594 comments Mod
Same here. Love seeing your furry family members :)


message 646: by Emma (M) (last edited Oct 30, 2015 02:55PM) (new)

Emma (M) | 1777 comments Sophie wrote: "We've only known he was a cross for the last couple of months. When we rescued him we were told he was a German Shepherd and we thought he was just really big! Was only when I showed a colleague wi..."

Oh you can definately see the Leonberger in him!! Especially his eyes :)


message 647: by Jen (last edited Oct 30, 2015 03:03PM) (new)

Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Wow! Everybody sure has adorable dogs. :-) I'm really loving seeing everyone else's furry family members on the canine side, too. :-)

Sophie wrote: "We've only known he was a cross for the last couple of months. When we rescued him we were told he was a German Shepherd and we thought he was just really big! Was only when I showed a colleague wi..."

Have you ever seen purebred adult German Shepherd males? When my Max was a baby-baby, I took him in for his eight-or-twelve week vaccinations and there were two adult male G.S. dogs in there. I actually asked the guy if they were mixed with something bigger (they weren't), because they were H-U-G-E. I don't know how much they weighed, but they sure were tall! Came up to my hips, and I'm nearly 5'7". I was in awe. :-)


message 648: by Sophie, The other one (new)

Sophie (drsophie) | 5684 comments Mod
Given my parents had a purebred adult German Shepherd before Sam we should have known he wasn't. When we first got Sam he was about an inch or 2 shorter (he was 6 months old) and they looked quite different!

We have to be carefully because when he's sitting down his chin rests on the kitchen table. Luckily he's well behaved and doesn't take food, but we try to keep temptation out the way.


message 649: by Jen (last edited Oct 30, 2015 03:13PM) (new)

Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Sophie wrote: "Given my parents had a purebred adult German Shepherd before Sam we should have known he wasn't. When we first got Sam he was about an inch or 2 shorter (he was 6 months old) and they looked quite ..."

Very neat. :-)

My Max isn't tall enough to get up on the table or counters like that, but he has amazing reach, so I too have to be careful of what I put where. ;-)


message 650: by Karsyn (last edited Oct 30, 2015 03:14PM) (new)

Karsyn  (imzadi) Our Pitbull, Naminé, 3 years ago when we first got her (still my favorite photo of her).





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