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Frequently Asked Questions
There are almost 1000 different goals, loosely categorised as below. We'll try and group the FAQ as much as possible by goal type
Goal Types: (A-K)
Animals
Q. For the"exotic pet" goal ; does a psychic cat count? How about The Luggage from Discworld? It's basically a pet, follows Rincewind around, eats everything etc...lol. ?
A. yes, both are fine
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Q. For the goals about animals (giraffe, turtle, etc.) does the animal just have to be mentioned somewhere in the book or make a quick appearance? Or does it have to have something to do with the plot?
A.There should be physical animals but they don't really have to be part of the plot. e.g. not "a giant stuffed animal giraffe" but you could do "we passed miles filled with only giraffes"
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Q. we have someone reading a book with a tortoise, would that work or does the word turtle need to be used?
A. I'm ok with tortoise for turtle
Authors
Q. About a goal "Read a book published when its author was already dead ". Is it ok to use a book that is republished after author's death or does it have to be a first time published after author's death
A. It should have at least some original content if it's republished. It shouldn't just be another printing.
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Q. For the goals where an author's first or last name has to start with a specific letter, would a first initial qualify? (As in E.L. James for E).
A. Yes, the E would be fine for that
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Q. For the goal "Read a book whose author died last year"
A. Must be previous calendar year, not year to date
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Q. For the goal "Read a book by an author using a pseudonym" do anthologies count?
A. Yes
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Character
Q. For the goal - read a book where someone fulfills their dream. Can we take it literally and be using nightmares.Eg. In Destined for an Early Grave the MC has nightmares that involves a vampire Gregor, who's a dream snatcher, and takes people out of their nightmares to wherever he is. Also when she has those nightmares about Gregor, he also claims to be married to her, which later turns out to be true. So in this case could it work, even though it isn't the HEA kind of dream?
A. As we are letting the idioms be taken literally, you can do the same here and use it for the goal
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Q. The goal: read a book where characters go to a dance. Is this a dance like in school, or can it be where the characters go to a party/nightclub and dance?
A. nightclub where they're actually dancing would be fine. I think the main characters themselves have to dance though not just watch others dancing.
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Q. What does it mean "character is an imp?"
A. Sounds like you'll need to scour some Fantasy books. Refer Imp: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imp.
Georgina Kincaid series (first book Succubus Blues) has imp characters. Or you can try the imp series (first book A Demon Bound )
Since the characters are harder to find than vampire or werewolves, we also allow for books that have non-character imps - meaning the small creatures called imps that like to run havoc everywhere, like in the aisling grey series (can't remember which book) or in Sex, Lies and Vampires
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Q. For the goal "Read a book where a character has more than one child" are adopted children acceptable?
A. Yes
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Q. One of our books has a character called simply "Auntie" will this count as an A character?
A. Yes, if that is what she is referred to as in the book
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Q.For the goal "Read a book where a character is an investigator." Does it have to be their official job? Or would this work: "the main character is sent to investigate bribery in the crystal mining business"
A. It works provided it is the character's prime purpose in the book
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Q. I need help with Read a book where someone is lost.
Does it needs to be that character is lost as in doesn't know where s/he is? Could it be that other characters doesn't know where character is and think her/him lost? Maybe someone is only feeling lost in life? All of the above? None? Actually we have a book where MC ran away and others are looking for her. So she's lost to them?
A. it's ok if someone else is lost since it doesn't specify main character is lost. I think for the "lost in life" it would have to be a significant story aspect and not just someone is at loss for what to do type of "lost". The character running away and being lost to others is ok.
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Q. for the goal Tradesperson can a drug dealer or weapons dealer work?
A. Based on "A tradesman or skilled tradesman is a manual worker in a particular trade or craft requiring skill (i.e., the skilled trades). Tradesmen are contrasted with unskilled workers (laborers); agricultural workers; and professionals (those in the learned professions)"
I'd say it counts as long as the person is in a skilled position in the organization. So for a drug dealer, the person organizing a section of the trade would count (or one making the drugs) but just someone selling them on the street would be a laborer.
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Q. or "Read a book with a zombie" do they actually have to be called zombies? I have a book with things called by another name (the reborn) but they're basically zombies...dead brought back to life, mindless, eat humans, etc.
A. zombies should eat brains and be undead people. I'm ok with them being called differently if they clearly fit the mold of the traditional zombie.
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Q. for goal "character - Read a book where someone is lost." does it also work when the person is abducted?
A. If someone is looking for them, and the abductee doesn't know where s/he is, then yes
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Q. For the goal "Read a book about interconnecting families" ~ not sure what this means
A. Def: "Interconnecting Families" : to become mutually connected. So it's more towards when two people marry and the families interconnect. It should be a book that tells the stories of multiple families, who's lives intersect and connect. E.g. The Joy Luck Club, Fall of Giants, A Game of Thrones
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Q. Are Titans considered Gods?
A. Before the gods, they were the titans. Atlas is definitely not a god, but, if it is for the greek god goal, I'll accept it, as long as they call him Titan or just Atlas.
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Q. For the goal "character is an undertaker" are variations allowed? Could we use funeral director, medical examiner or mortician for example?
A. No, they are not undertakers
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Q. For the goal "Read a book where a character has lost one of their senses" can it take place before the book?
A. yes
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Q. For the goal "Read a book where a character is a mythical creature" does a ghost count?
A. No
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Q. For the goal "Read a book where MCs are best friends"
1) Would a book where the two MC are currently not friends, but where there are flashbacks to when they were young and best friends count?
2) Alternatively, would a book where according to the synopsis the two MC are described as best friends (although one of them is now dead) work?
A. For 1 - I think if it's a significant part of the story then yes
For 2 - unless the dead friend is there as a character, or flashbacks as above, I think no
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Q. For the goal "read a book where MC has superhero powers," what do you consider as superhero powers? Would the ability to regenerate into new bodies and/or immortality count?
A. Sounds ok to me. Basically super powers should be powers that existing super heroes have ; not "supernatural" things like shapeshifting or being a ghost
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Q. For the goal "Read a book were a character has one or more wards", who is considered a ward?
A. Ward: "a person, usually a minor, under the care and control of a guardian appointed by their parents or a court."
So the character should have one or more people under their care and control. So it could be an elderly person that they're responsible for or more likely a minor that is not adopted. I believe foster children would also be considered a ward until they are adopted.
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Cover
Q. For the goal to read a book with stationery on the cover.. We were wondering what the definition was for this? envelopes - postcards - post-it notes?
A. Yes they are all fine. It can also include writing materials like pens and pencils
Dates
Q. We got "Read a book first published in June". Is that June of 2015, or June of any year?
A. Any year
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Q. Can ARC that's going to be published in few months be used for goal asking for book to be published on specific date?
A. Yes
Edition
Q. One of our categories is "Read a book where the hardcover edition is between 400 and 499 pages". Are only books that have hardcover editions eligible to meet his goal?
A. Yes. Hardcover books have particular differences with page counts so those goals that state that are quite specific to that edition. You don't have to read the hardcover edition, it just needs to have one meeting that page count
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Q.We have the goal "Read a book where the hardcover version is less than 300 pages" - we have a book where there is no page count listed on the GR page for the hardcover, but Amazon lists it as 288 pages. Can we use it?
A. I pefer to use more official sources when they are available, such as worldcat. Can you provide the book you are referring to and we will look it up (and add to Goodreads if we need to)
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Q. For goals that are specific to an edition (like "where the audio version is..."), do we have to have read that edition? Or does the corresponding edition just have to match the goal?
A.Corresponding edition has to match the goal. You can read whichever edition you want.
Genre
Q. For a goal like "Read a book with the main genre (listed on the first page on GR) as Crime", does it count if the main page genre is "Mystery > Crime"?
A. Yes, it can be a sub category
Q. For the goal: "Read a book shelved (listed on the first page on GR) as military - plurals and spelling acceptable" Would a book shelved as "mystery-military" work for this?
A. Yes, we accept genre when it's a sub-genre too
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Q. For "read a book with the main genre (listed on the first page on GR) as Spiritual" , Is Spirituality OK?
A. Yes
Goodreads
Q. Clarification: for "Read a book shelved (listed on the first page on GR) as __________ - plurals and spelling acceptable."
A. When looking at a book, look at genres on the right. Click "See Top Shelves". Any shelf listed on the next page is acceptable as being shelved on 1st page.
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Q. For the goal which says: Read a book from your TBR that one of your teammates has already read
A. Read any time, and listed on their read shelf counts, not just during event time
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There are almost 1000 different goals, loosely categorised as below. We'll try and group the FAQ as much as possible by goal type
Goal Types: (A-K)
Animals
Q. For the"exotic pet" goal ; does a psychic cat count? How about The Luggage from Discworld? It's basically a pet, follows Rincewind around, eats everything etc...lol. ?
A. yes, both are fine
----
Q. For the goals about animals (giraffe, turtle, etc.) does the animal just have to be mentioned somewhere in the book or make a quick appearance? Or does it have to have something to do with the plot?
A.There should be physical animals but they don't really have to be part of the plot. e.g. not "a giant stuffed animal giraffe" but you could do "we passed miles filled with only giraffes"
----
Q. we have someone reading a book with a tortoise, would that work or does the word turtle need to be used?
A. I'm ok with tortoise for turtle
Authors
Q. About a goal "Read a book published when its author was already dead ". Is it ok to use a book that is republished after author's death or does it have to be a first time published after author's death
A. It should have at least some original content if it's republished. It shouldn't just be another printing.
----
Q. For the goals where an author's first or last name has to start with a specific letter, would a first initial qualify? (As in E.L. James for E).
A. Yes, the E would be fine for that
---
Q. For the goal "Read a book whose author died last year"
A. Must be previous calendar year, not year to date
---
Q. For the goal "Read a book by an author using a pseudonym" do anthologies count?
A. Yes
---
Character
Q. For the goal - read a book where someone fulfills their dream. Can we take it literally and be using nightmares.Eg. In Destined for an Early Grave the MC has nightmares that involves a vampire Gregor, who's a dream snatcher, and takes people out of their nightmares to wherever he is. Also when she has those nightmares about Gregor, he also claims to be married to her, which later turns out to be true. So in this case could it work, even though it isn't the HEA kind of dream?
A. As we are letting the idioms be taken literally, you can do the same here and use it for the goal
----
Q. The goal: read a book where characters go to a dance. Is this a dance like in school, or can it be where the characters go to a party/nightclub and dance?
A. nightclub where they're actually dancing would be fine. I think the main characters themselves have to dance though not just watch others dancing.
----
Q. What does it mean "character is an imp?"
A. Sounds like you'll need to scour some Fantasy books. Refer Imp: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imp.
Georgina Kincaid series (first book Succubus Blues) has imp characters. Or you can try the imp series (first book A Demon Bound )
Since the characters are harder to find than vampire or werewolves, we also allow for books that have non-character imps - meaning the small creatures called imps that like to run havoc everywhere, like in the aisling grey series (can't remember which book) or in Sex, Lies and Vampires
----
Q. For the goal "Read a book where a character has more than one child" are adopted children acceptable?
A. Yes
----
Q. One of our books has a character called simply "Auntie" will this count as an A character?
A. Yes, if that is what she is referred to as in the book
------
Q.For the goal "Read a book where a character is an investigator." Does it have to be their official job? Or would this work: "the main character is sent to investigate bribery in the crystal mining business"
A. It works provided it is the character's prime purpose in the book
----
Q. I need help with Read a book where someone is lost.
Does it needs to be that character is lost as in doesn't know where s/he is? Could it be that other characters doesn't know where character is and think her/him lost? Maybe someone is only feeling lost in life? All of the above? None? Actually we have a book where MC ran away and others are looking for her. So she's lost to them?
A. it's ok if someone else is lost since it doesn't specify main character is lost. I think for the "lost in life" it would have to be a significant story aspect and not just someone is at loss for what to do type of "lost". The character running away and being lost to others is ok.
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Q. for the goal Tradesperson can a drug dealer or weapons dealer work?
A. Based on "A tradesman or skilled tradesman is a manual worker in a particular trade or craft requiring skill (i.e., the skilled trades). Tradesmen are contrasted with unskilled workers (laborers); agricultural workers; and professionals (those in the learned professions)"
I'd say it counts as long as the person is in a skilled position in the organization. So for a drug dealer, the person organizing a section of the trade would count (or one making the drugs) but just someone selling them on the street would be a laborer.
----
Q. or "Read a book with a zombie" do they actually have to be called zombies? I have a book with things called by another name (the reborn) but they're basically zombies...dead brought back to life, mindless, eat humans, etc.
A. zombies should eat brains and be undead people. I'm ok with them being called differently if they clearly fit the mold of the traditional zombie.
---
Q. for goal "character - Read a book where someone is lost." does it also work when the person is abducted?
A. If someone is looking for them, and the abductee doesn't know where s/he is, then yes
---
Q. For the goal "Read a book about interconnecting families" ~ not sure what this means
A. Def: "Interconnecting Families" : to become mutually connected. So it's more towards when two people marry and the families interconnect. It should be a book that tells the stories of multiple families, who's lives intersect and connect. E.g. The Joy Luck Club, Fall of Giants, A Game of Thrones
---
Q. Are Titans considered Gods?
A. Before the gods, they were the titans. Atlas is definitely not a god, but, if it is for the greek god goal, I'll accept it, as long as they call him Titan or just Atlas.
---
Q. For the goal "character is an undertaker" are variations allowed? Could we use funeral director, medical examiner or mortician for example?
A. No, they are not undertakers
---
Q. For the goal "Read a book where a character has lost one of their senses" can it take place before the book?
A. yes
---
Q. For the goal "Read a book where a character is a mythical creature" does a ghost count?
A. No
---
Q. For the goal "Read a book where MCs are best friends"
1) Would a book where the two MC are currently not friends, but where there are flashbacks to when they were young and best friends count?
2) Alternatively, would a book where according to the synopsis the two MC are described as best friends (although one of them is now dead) work?
A. For 1 - I think if it's a significant part of the story then yes
For 2 - unless the dead friend is there as a character, or flashbacks as above, I think no
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Q. For the goal "read a book where MC has superhero powers," what do you consider as superhero powers? Would the ability to regenerate into new bodies and/or immortality count?
A. Sounds ok to me. Basically super powers should be powers that existing super heroes have ; not "supernatural" things like shapeshifting or being a ghost
---
Q. For the goal "Read a book were a character has one or more wards", who is considered a ward?
A. Ward: "a person, usually a minor, under the care and control of a guardian appointed by their parents or a court."
So the character should have one or more people under their care and control. So it could be an elderly person that they're responsible for or more likely a minor that is not adopted. I believe foster children would also be considered a ward until they are adopted.
---
Cover
Q. For the goal to read a book with stationery on the cover.. We were wondering what the definition was for this? envelopes - postcards - post-it notes?
A. Yes they are all fine. It can also include writing materials like pens and pencils
Dates
Q. We got "Read a book first published in June". Is that June of 2015, or June of any year?
A. Any year
----
Q. Can ARC that's going to be published in few months be used for goal asking for book to be published on specific date?
A. Yes
Edition
Q. One of our categories is "Read a book where the hardcover edition is between 400 and 499 pages". Are only books that have hardcover editions eligible to meet his goal?
A. Yes. Hardcover books have particular differences with page counts so those goals that state that are quite specific to that edition. You don't have to read the hardcover edition, it just needs to have one meeting that page count
----
Q.We have the goal "Read a book where the hardcover version is less than 300 pages" - we have a book where there is no page count listed on the GR page for the hardcover, but Amazon lists it as 288 pages. Can we use it?
A. I pefer to use more official sources when they are available, such as worldcat. Can you provide the book you are referring to and we will look it up (and add to Goodreads if we need to)
----
Q. For goals that are specific to an edition (like "where the audio version is..."), do we have to have read that edition? Or does the corresponding edition just have to match the goal?
A.Corresponding edition has to match the goal. You can read whichever edition you want.
Genre
Q. For a goal like "Read a book with the main genre (listed on the first page on GR) as Crime", does it count if the main page genre is "Mystery > Crime"?
A. Yes, it can be a sub category
Q. For the goal: "Read a book shelved (listed on the first page on GR) as military - plurals and spelling acceptable" Would a book shelved as "mystery-military" work for this?
A. Yes, we accept genre when it's a sub-genre too
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Q. For "read a book with the main genre (listed on the first page on GR) as Spiritual" , Is Spirituality OK?
A. Yes
Goodreads
Q. Clarification: for "Read a book shelved (listed on the first page on GR) as __________ - plurals and spelling acceptable."
A. When looking at a book, look at genres on the right. Click "See Top Shelves". Any shelf listed on the next page is acceptable as being shelved on 1st page.
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Q. For the goal which says: Read a book from your TBR that one of your teammates has already read
A. Read any time, and listed on their read shelf counts, not just during event time
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FAQ con't
Goal Types: (L-S)
Listopia
Lists (other)
Q. Read a book where the author's first name is one of the top 100 male names in Spain according to nameberry" Can we use a name that is a variation of another name? For example, Jaime is a Spanish variation of James. So can we use the name James to fulfill that goal?
A. I'm ok with names being shortened, but I'd rather not get into names spelt differently due to translations as it can create a bit of a minefield. The Spain one was intentionally a more difficult list, although I don't think impossible
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Q. Question about that author in top 100 names goal,
do we have to match gender. For example we read Toni as female but it's on male list?
Also what about last names? For example would Carrie Ryan work for Ryan?
A. It does need to be the author's first name, but I wouldn't be concerned with the author' gender. You just need to match a name on that list (male or female name depending on your goal) to the author name :)
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Q. Question about that author in top 100 names goal (male), I have a FEMALE author with Alex but the list has Alexander, is it ok to use?
A. No, as the name Alex in this case is the derivative of Alexandra, not Alexander. If it was a male author Alex that would be ok.
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Q. For the name goals, What do we think of Sarah if Sara is listed on the list? Does that count as a separate name or are we just doing Alex for Alexander and those type of shortenings?
A. When I look up Sara on name berry it is listed separately to Sarah (one was #167 and one #50) so I would say they are different and Sara shouldn't count for Sarah
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Q. Our goal us to read a book from a book depository list.
One of the team is currently reading Harry Potter 3 and since the Harry Potter Boxset of all 7 books is on the list, would HP 3 count towards the goal?
A. Yes, where there is a boxed set you can read any of the books in that set to count for the goal
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Q.So my team had a goal: "Read a book that is ranked 301-400 in bestsellers on book depository". Yesterday when I checked the site, it had listed Cinder by Marissa Meyer number 361. But when I checked the site today it was no longer there. Does the list change daily/weekly/monthly?
A.They will change fairly frequently, so you need to claim it with the number it was listed at. Once you have checked the list and found a book with the number, it's a good idea for your captain to check it that day as by the time you've read it and they need to verify it may have changed. You can also take a screen shot for your captains if you like
Numbers
Q. How does this goal work: "Read a book that has a number in the title with a series number one higher than that number "?
A. It's based on inflationary language by Victor Borge (Example: http://www.kor.dk/borge/b-story-1.htm)
Here's some that others have already found. here. The "number" in the book title or series does not have to be spelled correctly. (e.g. For for Four or To for Two or Wonderful for One)
NBRC
Other (Assorted)
Q. For a book with a song in it, how much of a song is required? For example, we have a book with the following
"If Aston had to listen to Barry sing "If you liked it then you should've put a ring on it" one more time he might kill someone."
Does it count or does it need to be a whole song or verse?
A. For recipe's we've been taking little clips of a recipe so I think that would be ok.
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Q. How long does the Shakespeare quote has to be? We have a book that has "in my mind's eye," which is identified as a Shakespeare quote.
A. If you're clever enough to identify it without the book actually stating it is Shakespeare I'll accept it :)
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Q. For ISBN goals, what if the books we use don't have an ISBN? We've got a lot of people reading a high percentage of Kindle books which have the ASIN instead. Are we able to use the ISBN for the most common version of the book or some other option for those?
A. If there's no ISBN listed for the version you read then you can use the most common/default goodreads copy.
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Q. "Read a novel with a poem in it"? I assume that poetry books are out since it says novel, but would books with partial poems/quotes at the beginning of the chapter qualify? Or musician books with songs written out qualify?
A. There's a different goal for songs written out so songs wouldn't qualify for this one. It should be in the text for it to qualify. One that comes to mind is Slammed. I'm also fine if it's not specifically mentioned as a poem but it's something like a fortune or prophecy where it's in poem format.
Example of the second I just read in An Ember in the Ashes page 130
(view spoiler)
When I see them they're typically in italics and centered if it helps for scanning things.
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Q. What does a goal "Read a book with no labeled chapters" mean? The book has no chapters at all or are the numbered chapters ok?
A. No chapters at all. So, not numbered or named. For example, we did a BOM earlier this year - Love Letters to the Dead which was like that
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Q. "Read a book with 1-10 chapters" ; do we include prologues and epilogues?
A. No, just numbered chapters.
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Q. For the goal "read a book you got for free", can that be one you checked out from the library?
A. Yes
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Q. For Read a book where MCs attends a concert/art exhibit/theater show, would a movie count?
A. No
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Q. ISBN type goals
A. Any letters A-Z, characters (!@#$%^&) do not count as numbers and should be ignored
Phrases in book
Q. Ok so we got find "an arm and a leg".
Would this work for it:
...his leg and arm thrown....
or
...in tangle of arms and legs...?
A.An arm and a leg is more like it costs a lot like "gold plates cost an arm and a leg". You can use different phrasing when it's used the same as the original phrase. Like weak at the knees and his knees went weak. So your examples wouldn't count
Series books
Q. For tasks read xth in series if book is part of more than 1 series, can we count all series or only one showing on main book page? To be precise, I'm asking if we can use I Shall Wear Midnight as 4th in series?
A. Ah, the old series within a series! For that one, it would be #38 as we are using what is shown on the Goodreads front page
Setting
Q. Where the goal is the setting of "post modern time period" ; when is that?
A. A list of time periods can be found on Wiki here. Post modern is 1973 onwards
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Q. For the goal with South Africa as the setting ; is that the country or the continent?
A. We will accept either
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Q. Would the book "After the End" count for set by an ocean. It is set in Alaska, Seattle and LA.
A. It depends on the book. Is the setting the cities or does the ocean make a mention? Seattle, for example, may be bordered by an ocean but if the book takes place in an apartment then it's not really set by an ocean.
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Q. For the goal: "character visits a castle", if they visit a palace is that acceptable?
A. Yes
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Q. For Read a book where MCs attends a concert/art exhibit/theater show, would a movie count?
A. No, there's a separate goal for movie
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Q. For the goal "Read a book set in your home state/country" - if you live in the US does it have to be your state?
A. Yes, the state you legally reside in
Goal Types: (L-S)
Listopia
Lists (other)
Q. Read a book where the author's first name is one of the top 100 male names in Spain according to nameberry" Can we use a name that is a variation of another name? For example, Jaime is a Spanish variation of James. So can we use the name James to fulfill that goal?
A. I'm ok with names being shortened, but I'd rather not get into names spelt differently due to translations as it can create a bit of a minefield. The Spain one was intentionally a more difficult list, although I don't think impossible
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Q. Question about that author in top 100 names goal,
do we have to match gender. For example we read Toni as female but it's on male list?
Also what about last names? For example would Carrie Ryan work for Ryan?
A. It does need to be the author's first name, but I wouldn't be concerned with the author' gender. You just need to match a name on that list (male or female name depending on your goal) to the author name :)
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Q. Question about that author in top 100 names goal (male), I have a FEMALE author with Alex but the list has Alexander, is it ok to use?
A. No, as the name Alex in this case is the derivative of Alexandra, not Alexander. If it was a male author Alex that would be ok.
----
Q. For the name goals, What do we think of Sarah if Sara is listed on the list? Does that count as a separate name or are we just doing Alex for Alexander and those type of shortenings?
A. When I look up Sara on name berry it is listed separately to Sarah (one was #167 and one #50) so I would say they are different and Sara shouldn't count for Sarah
----
Q. Our goal us to read a book from a book depository list.
One of the team is currently reading Harry Potter 3 and since the Harry Potter Boxset of all 7 books is on the list, would HP 3 count towards the goal?
A. Yes, where there is a boxed set you can read any of the books in that set to count for the goal
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Q.So my team had a goal: "Read a book that is ranked 301-400 in bestsellers on book depository". Yesterday when I checked the site, it had listed Cinder by Marissa Meyer number 361. But when I checked the site today it was no longer there. Does the list change daily/weekly/monthly?
A.They will change fairly frequently, so you need to claim it with the number it was listed at. Once you have checked the list and found a book with the number, it's a good idea for your captain to check it that day as by the time you've read it and they need to verify it may have changed. You can also take a screen shot for your captains if you like
Numbers
Q. How does this goal work: "Read a book that has a number in the title with a series number one higher than that number "?
A. It's based on inflationary language by Victor Borge (Example: http://www.kor.dk/borge/b-story-1.htm)
Here's some that others have already found. here. The "number" in the book title or series does not have to be spelled correctly. (e.g. For for Four or To for Two or Wonderful for One)
NBRC
Other (Assorted)
Q. For a book with a song in it, how much of a song is required? For example, we have a book with the following
"If Aston had to listen to Barry sing "If you liked it then you should've put a ring on it" one more time he might kill someone."
Does it count or does it need to be a whole song or verse?
A. For recipe's we've been taking little clips of a recipe so I think that would be ok.
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Q. How long does the Shakespeare quote has to be? We have a book that has "in my mind's eye," which is identified as a Shakespeare quote.
A. If you're clever enough to identify it without the book actually stating it is Shakespeare I'll accept it :)
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Q. For ISBN goals, what if the books we use don't have an ISBN? We've got a lot of people reading a high percentage of Kindle books which have the ASIN instead. Are we able to use the ISBN for the most common version of the book or some other option for those?
A. If there's no ISBN listed for the version you read then you can use the most common/default goodreads copy.
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Q. "Read a novel with a poem in it"? I assume that poetry books are out since it says novel, but would books with partial poems/quotes at the beginning of the chapter qualify? Or musician books with songs written out qualify?
A. There's a different goal for songs written out so songs wouldn't qualify for this one. It should be in the text for it to qualify. One that comes to mind is Slammed. I'm also fine if it's not specifically mentioned as a poem but it's something like a fortune or prophecy where it's in poem format.
Example of the second I just read in An Ember in the Ashes page 130
(view spoiler)
When I see them they're typically in italics and centered if it helps for scanning things.
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Q. What does a goal "Read a book with no labeled chapters" mean? The book has no chapters at all or are the numbered chapters ok?
A. No chapters at all. So, not numbered or named. For example, we did a BOM earlier this year - Love Letters to the Dead which was like that
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Q. "Read a book with 1-10 chapters" ; do we include prologues and epilogues?
A. No, just numbered chapters.
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Q. For the goal "read a book you got for free", can that be one you checked out from the library?
A. Yes
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Q. For Read a book where MCs attends a concert/art exhibit/theater show, would a movie count?
A. No
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Q. ISBN type goals
A. Any letters A-Z, characters (!@#$%^&) do not count as numbers and should be ignored
Phrases in book
Q. Ok so we got find "an arm and a leg".
Would this work for it:
...his leg and arm thrown....
or
...in tangle of arms and legs...?
A.An arm and a leg is more like it costs a lot like "gold plates cost an arm and a leg". You can use different phrasing when it's used the same as the original phrase. Like weak at the knees and his knees went weak. So your examples wouldn't count
Series books
Q. For tasks read xth in series if book is part of more than 1 series, can we count all series or only one showing on main book page? To be precise, I'm asking if we can use I Shall Wear Midnight as 4th in series?
A. Ah, the old series within a series! For that one, it would be #38 as we are using what is shown on the Goodreads front page
Setting
Q. Where the goal is the setting of "post modern time period" ; when is that?
A. A list of time periods can be found on Wiki here. Post modern is 1973 onwards
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Q. For the goal with South Africa as the setting ; is that the country or the continent?
A. We will accept either
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Q. Would the book "After the End" count for set by an ocean. It is set in Alaska, Seattle and LA.
A. It depends on the book. Is the setting the cities or does the ocean make a mention? Seattle, for example, may be bordered by an ocean but if the book takes place in an apartment then it's not really set by an ocean.
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Q. For the goal: "character visits a castle", if they visit a palace is that acceptable?
A. Yes
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Q. For Read a book where MCs attends a concert/art exhibit/theater show, would a movie count?
A. No, there's a separate goal for movie
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Q. For the goal "Read a book set in your home state/country" - if you live in the US does it have to be your state?
A. Yes, the state you legally reside in
FAQ con't
Goal Types: (T-Z)
Title
Q.Is Mind a body part for "Read a book with a body part in the title"
A. Yes, we will accept it
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Q. For goal "Read a book with the name of the tarot card "The Magician" in the text or title
does that the also count? Or can it just be "Magician"
A. It needs to be "The Magician" as we are looking for the name of the card (although it may be in a completely different context, it doesn't have to be a card that is being referred to)
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Q. For the goal, "Read a book with a country name in the title", Do nationalities count as well as nations? E.g "french" in title rather than "France"?
A. Yes that is ok
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Q. For the goal: book title contains a conjunction, does the word have to function as a conjunction in the title, or is it OK as long as the word is a conjunction in some cases? ("After" is a conjunction.)
A. I'm ok with it being a conjunction in some cases.
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Q. For Read a book where the acronym of the title forms a word ; do we count all words (including the, an, a, of, with, in,...)? And what about &?
Should we also use Scrabble dictionary to check word is a word?
A. Yes. Count all words. Don't count symbols. And you can use scrabble dictionary if you want.
Example: City of Golden Shadow = cogs
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Q.The goal Read a book that starts with the letter X. Does this mean the title or the first word in the book?
A. Title
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Q. if we get a goal to read a book of a specific letter can we discount "the" or "A" in the title
A. Yes, you can ignore "the", "a", and "an" and use the first letter of the second word.
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Q. For "Read a book with the word tree, leaf, branch or grass (plurals are acceptable) in the title".
Could we use a title with the word sTREEt in it? Or are we only doing independent words.
A. no, that wouldn't work as we are going for the individual word although a plural (or suffix if there was one applicable like -Ing) would be ok
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Q. For the goal "Read a book with a title over 25 characters", do we count spaces between the words or not?
A. No, characters count as letters and numbers. No punctuation or spaces
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Q. Is the word "Moonflower" acceptable for the goal - moon in the title?
A. Sorry, no. We are allowing plurals or suffixes, but not altering the actual word
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Q. I was thinking about the goal Book with a country in the title. Could a fictional country work here? Like Oz in The Wonderful Wizard of Oz i noticed the book length of this one isn't long enough, but this was also more of a general question.
A. Fictional country would be ok
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Q. For the new goal, "Read a book where the title can be found verbatum in the book text"... does the subtitle need to be in there, too? I'm reading Fire Season: Field Notes from a Wilderness Lookout and "fire season" comes up in the text, but the rest (understandably) does not
A. for other goals like the number of characters in the title, you would include the subtitle, or for a goal with find a word in the title, you would include the subtitle (wouldn't you?) so therefore I think this should be consistent and for this goal also include the subtitle.
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Q. we have a goal read a book with 3 U's in title we have a book with 4 U's is that acceptable or does it have to be just the 3 of that letter
A. It is just 3 (otherwise it may say "at least 3" or "3 or more")
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Q. For the goal where the world ends, how literal should that be? Does the world need to completely end and people need to leave and live in space or on another planet? Or for example, if a virus wipes out most of the population, but some people survive and live off the land, would that work? OR maybe a teenager doesn't get invited to the dance and OMG the world is over!
A. The virus wiping populations works. Or a zombie apocalypse. But the disaster has to be in the book. For example, Station Eleven or After The Ending work. But the Kate Daniels series doesn't, because the world changing event happened BEFORE the first book. Sadly, the teenage world ending doesn't count.
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Q. For the goal "in the title or text", does that mean written in the book (part of the story) for the in the text part?
A. Yes
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Q. For the goal "Read a book with a homophone in the title" Does that mean we can read something like A Twist in the Tale tale has the homophone tail or do we need something like The Tail Begins: Tales from School Book 1 with both words in the title ?
A. Just one is fine, so A twist in the tale counts and the reason in the spreadsheet would be tale/tail
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Q. For "Read a book where the title is at least 3 words and is a tautogram "
1. Can we ignore words like the, a, an, is, and any other non capitalized word in the title.
2. Can we just use the title and ignore the subtitle if there is one?
3. Do ALL words need to be part of the tautogram, or does it just have to be 3 words if the title is longer? "
A. 1. I'm ok skipping A/An/The like we do for first letter. But all other words should be used.
2. You can ignore the subtitle. (But the title still has to be at least 3 words then)
3. It should be the whole remaining title after the other 2 questions are applied.
The tautogram part should be at least 3 words, so if you remove A from the beginning it should still be 3 words left. And you can choose to use A/An/The if it helps you.
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To Read shelf
Words in book
Q. When we have goals that asks for a specific word, do books with that word in a different language count? Like for instance the word "sun" and I have the norwegian word for it ("sol") in my book. Can I use it?
A. Yes. If your book has English translation, try searching Amazon or google books for right sentence and then use that :)
If not, try to give us example of real sentence and rough translation.
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Q. Read a book that has the birthstone Sapphire in the text or title ; Does it have to reference the actual gem, or would color suffice - i.e. sapphire-blue dress?
A. Just the word, so sapphire blue dress is fine
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Q. Would aggregator work for word aggregate in the text goal?
A. No. According to the dictionary, they are different words/definitions (-es or -ed or -ing would be ok).
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Goal Types: (T-Z)
Title
Q.Is Mind a body part for "Read a book with a body part in the title"
A. Yes, we will accept it
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Q. For goal "Read a book with the name of the tarot card "The Magician" in the text or title
does that the also count? Or can it just be "Magician"
A. It needs to be "The Magician" as we are looking for the name of the card (although it may be in a completely different context, it doesn't have to be a card that is being referred to)
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Q. For the goal, "Read a book with a country name in the title", Do nationalities count as well as nations? E.g "french" in title rather than "France"?
A. Yes that is ok
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Q. For the goal: book title contains a conjunction, does the word have to function as a conjunction in the title, or is it OK as long as the word is a conjunction in some cases? ("After" is a conjunction.)
A. I'm ok with it being a conjunction in some cases.
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Q. For Read a book where the acronym of the title forms a word ; do we count all words (including the, an, a, of, with, in,...)? And what about &?
Should we also use Scrabble dictionary to check word is a word?
A. Yes. Count all words. Don't count symbols. And you can use scrabble dictionary if you want.
Example: City of Golden Shadow = cogs
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Q.The goal Read a book that starts with the letter X. Does this mean the title or the first word in the book?
A. Title
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Q. if we get a goal to read a book of a specific letter can we discount "the" or "A" in the title
A. Yes, you can ignore "the", "a", and "an" and use the first letter of the second word.
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Q. For "Read a book with the word tree, leaf, branch or grass (plurals are acceptable) in the title".
Could we use a title with the word sTREEt in it? Or are we only doing independent words.
A. no, that wouldn't work as we are going for the individual word although a plural (or suffix if there was one applicable like -Ing) would be ok
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Q. For the goal "Read a book with a title over 25 characters", do we count spaces between the words or not?
A. No, characters count as letters and numbers. No punctuation or spaces
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Q. Is the word "Moonflower" acceptable for the goal - moon in the title?
A. Sorry, no. We are allowing plurals or suffixes, but not altering the actual word
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Q. I was thinking about the goal Book with a country in the title. Could a fictional country work here? Like Oz in The Wonderful Wizard of Oz i noticed the book length of this one isn't long enough, but this was also more of a general question.
A. Fictional country would be ok
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Q. For the new goal, "Read a book where the title can be found verbatum in the book text"... does the subtitle need to be in there, too? I'm reading Fire Season: Field Notes from a Wilderness Lookout and "fire season" comes up in the text, but the rest (understandably) does not
A. for other goals like the number of characters in the title, you would include the subtitle, or for a goal with find a word in the title, you would include the subtitle (wouldn't you?) so therefore I think this should be consistent and for this goal also include the subtitle.
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Q. we have a goal read a book with 3 U's in title we have a book with 4 U's is that acceptable or does it have to be just the 3 of that letter
A. It is just 3 (otherwise it may say "at least 3" or "3 or more")
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Q. For the goal where the world ends, how literal should that be? Does the world need to completely end and people need to leave and live in space or on another planet? Or for example, if a virus wipes out most of the population, but some people survive and live off the land, would that work? OR maybe a teenager doesn't get invited to the dance and OMG the world is over!
A. The virus wiping populations works. Or a zombie apocalypse. But the disaster has to be in the book. For example, Station Eleven or After The Ending work. But the Kate Daniels series doesn't, because the world changing event happened BEFORE the first book. Sadly, the teenage world ending doesn't count.
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Q. For the goal "in the title or text", does that mean written in the book (part of the story) for the in the text part?
A. Yes
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Q. For the goal "Read a book with a homophone in the title" Does that mean we can read something like A Twist in the Tale tale has the homophone tail or do we need something like The Tail Begins: Tales from School Book 1 with both words in the title ?
A. Just one is fine, so A twist in the tale counts and the reason in the spreadsheet would be tale/tail
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Q. For "Read a book where the title is at least 3 words and is a tautogram "
1. Can we ignore words like the, a, an, is, and any other non capitalized word in the title.
2. Can we just use the title and ignore the subtitle if there is one?
3. Do ALL words need to be part of the tautogram, or does it just have to be 3 words if the title is longer? "
A. 1. I'm ok skipping A/An/The like we do for first letter. But all other words should be used.
2. You can ignore the subtitle. (But the title still has to be at least 3 words then)
3. It should be the whole remaining title after the other 2 questions are applied.
The tautogram part should be at least 3 words, so if you remove A from the beginning it should still be 3 words left. And you can choose to use A/An/The if it helps you.
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To Read shelf
Words in book
Q. When we have goals that asks for a specific word, do books with that word in a different language count? Like for instance the word "sun" and I have the norwegian word for it ("sol") in my book. Can I use it?
A. Yes. If your book has English translation, try searching Amazon or google books for right sentence and then use that :)
If not, try to give us example of real sentence and rough translation.
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Q. Read a book that has the birthstone Sapphire in the text or title ; Does it have to reference the actual gem, or would color suffice - i.e. sapphire-blue dress?
A. Just the word, so sapphire blue dress is fine
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Q. Would aggregator work for word aggregate in the text goal?
A. No. According to the dictionary, they are different words/definitions (-es or -ed or -ing would be ok).
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As Goals pertain to Tower Teams IV ~
- 5 random goals will be active at a time
- as a goal is marked as completed, a new goal will become active
- one book per goal, book cannot be used again for another goal
- if multiple members read the same book, it can be used on multiple goals
- you may have a goal repeated, as it's random, and a new book should be used for it
- for a new goal to appear, the captain(s) must manually enter books for each
- books read at any time may be used for any goal, if it hasn't already been used (i.e. - book read in week 1 that was goalless, can be used for a goal in week 7)
- 5 random goals will be active at a time
- as a goal is marked as completed, a new goal will become active
- one book per goal, book cannot be used again for another goal
- if multiple members read the same book, it can be used on multiple goals
- you may have a goal repeated, as it's random, and a new book should be used for it
- for a new goal to appear, the captain(s) must manually enter books for each
- books read at any time may be used for any goal, if it hasn't already been used (i.e. - book read in week 1 that was goalless, can be used for a goal in week 7)

Do we read books, figure out which goals they would fit, and then sort them out into whichever goal needs to be completed?
Am I making this more complicated than it is?

Do we read bo..."
The goals are randomized. Each team will have 5 available to them at any given time, when you complete one a new goal will take it's place.
The mods introduced goals in the last team challenge (The Gladiator Games) and they were a lot of fun. Some readers waiting for goals to decide what they were going to read and others just read what they wanted and most books fit a goal sooner or later.
It's a lot easier than it sounds, don't worry!

Thanks for the information! The only challenge I've done (am doing) with this group is the Twelve Towers one, so I'm new to this type of challenge. My team captain also told me a bit about the goals (thanks, Carmen!). So I'm pretty much done with worrying. I've moved on to hoping it will all make sense once we finally get under way.
But knowing that they'll be randomized and we'll only be faced with five at a time sure helps! Thanks again!
That's right. So once a book is read and assigned to a goal, a new goal is given and we have 5 goals at any one time


You can use book read during challenge. This time there won't be time limit, so in theory you can use book read in first week for goal you get in last one.


Just don't forget, you can't start reading it before challenge starts

I'm guessing we are looking at the first page of top shelves when you click "See top shelves..." from the book page?
If so, are reasonable variations of the requested shelves acceptable as well? I'm looking at the book I'm currently reading and it does have own, so it's a moot point for this particular book... but it also has owned, books-i-own, owned-books and i-own. If "own" was missing from the list, would these variations be accepted? Or does it have to be more exact?

Perfect, thanks! :)

For a word, like artichokes, would the singular work? Like artichoke instead of artichokes?

For a word, like artichokes, would the singular work? Like artichoke instead of artichokes?"
Yes

For a word, like artichokes, would the singular work? Like artichoke instead of artichokes?"
Yes"
Thanks for the quick reply!

(OR maybe a teenager doesn't get invited to the dance and OMG the world is over!) :)

The virus wiping populations works. Or a zombie apocalypse. But the disaster has to be on the book. For example, Station Eleven or After The Ending work. But the Kate Daniels series doesn't, because the world changing event happened BEFORE the first book.
Sadly, the teenage world ending doesn't count. LOL
@Annika
I think it depends on the book. Is the setting the cities or does the ocean make a mention?
Seattle for example may be bordered by an ocean but if the book takes place in an apartment then it's not really set by an ocean. Does that make sense?
I think it depends on the book. Is the setting the cities or does the ocean make a mention?
Seattle for example may be bordered by an ocean but if the book takes place in an apartment then it's not really set by an ocean. Does that make sense?

Makes perfect sense, and station eleven was exactly what I had in mind. Thanks!

Yup

Yup"
That's what I thought, just wanted to double check. Thanks!

I know it's one book per goal.


Would a book shelved as "mystery-military" work for this?
The book is Murder and Magic

Or should we be strictly looking for a book with a letter written on the cover?
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