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message 1: by Dwayne, Head of Lettuce (new)

Dwayne Fry | 4443 comments Mod
I don't know about you, but I research a lot of stuff while writing. In the last few days I've learned some things I never would have guessed before. Such as:

* There is no official time zone at the North Pole.
* The Greyhound bus station in Boise, Idaho has no public rest room.
* There is a golf course very close to the Great Pyramid in Egypt.

What about you? What useless information have you learned while researching your books? (No bookwhacking, please).


message 2: by Melissa (new)

Melissa Jensen (kdragon) | 469 comments While researching Irish slang words for a book, I learned that rasher can mean bacon or sex. I had to make sure the context in which I was using the word was made very, very clear.


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Jalapeno poppers were sold at Sonic Drive-In in 1984.

The Soviets had nuclear capability in Eisenhower's time.

The saying, "revenge is a dish best served cold" is not an original Star Trek invention; it is over two hundred years old, and a phrase coined in Europe.

Nautical speed of a ship in "knots" had to do with casting a ships "log" behind the ship with a knotted rope running through it. How many knots you were going had to do with how many knots passed by on the rope in a given time. This was also where the ships "log" came from.


message 4: by Dwayne, Head of Lettuce (new)

Dwayne Fry | 4443 comments Mod
Melissa wrote: "While researching Irish slang words for a book, I learned that rasher can mean bacon or sex. I had to make sure the context in which I was using the word was made very, very clear."

Right. Yes. That could make for an - um - interesting scene.


message 5: by Dwayne, Head of Lettuce (new)

Dwayne Fry | 4443 comments Mod
Morris wrote: "Nautical speed of a ship in "knots" had to do with casting a ships "log" behind the ship with a knotted rope running through it. How many knots you were going had to do with how many knots passed by on the rope in a given time. This was also where the ships "log" came from."

I had no idea, but that makes perfect sense. The one about Sonic is the kind of stuff I seem to look up far, far too often.


message 6: by Clayton (new)

Clayton Williamson (claytonwilliamson) | 16 comments Gasoline goes bad after 12-16 months.


message 7: by Charles (new)

Charles Hash | 1054 comments Never stick your fingers where you wouldn't stick your face.


message 8: by M.V. (new)

M.V. Noerrac | 5 comments That there really is such place as dead house where bodies are stored until the ground thaws before they can get buried.


message 9: by Joe (new)

Joe Jackson (shoelessauthor) That "your highness" is actually reserved for princes and princesses, and the king and/or queen is always referred to as "your majesty." You see so many shows, movies, and such where they mess this up or use the terms interchangeably.


message 10: by Helen (last edited Oct 05, 2015 07:17PM) (new)

Helen Erwin | 69 comments I LOVE research!
If a woman slept with an apple near her body in the 17th Century she could give it to a man the next day and he would fall in love with her.
Babies were dipped in the Babtismal Font three times, but around the reformation they began to just pour water over the heads and shoulders. Because of the new ritual the Babtismal Font got a metal insert to make it more shallow and they could save water.


message 11: by K.P. (new)

K.P. Merriweather (kp_merriweather) | 266 comments Ooh, I have so much random stuff, I could fill books!

A burial box and a casket are two different things. A casket's lid opens lengthwise from the side, whereas a burial box opens partway from the middle.

A creep joint is a gambling establishment that changes location each night.

A flivver is any old jalopy of a car, not necessarily a janky Ford.

Reaching the earth's stratosphere will freeze water.

If your space suit fails in space, your organs will swell (due to the gas bubbles) and rupture (but your body won't explode).

Decapitation and forced suicide isn't the only form of punishment a criminal could get in feudal japan - depending on the crime, one could be tied up 'like a lobster' and made to sit on a tri-cornered plank for days until they confessed. then sign a document confirming that confession.


message 12: by F.A.R. (new)

F.A.R. | 24 comments Chloroform's smell varies between kind of sweet and rotten depending on how much is used.


message 13: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 2491 comments F.A.R. wrote: "Chloroform's smell varies between kind of sweet and rotten depending on how much is used."

I've research this for days. I never found anything else but that it smelled sweet. I wished I had known that a few years back. :P


message 14: by Ian (new)

Ian Bott (iansbott) | 269 comments You can drive snowmobiles across water.

Because most of its mountains are along the coast, if all the ice on Greenland melted away, the island would be left with an inland sea larger than all the Great Lakes put together.


message 15: by Christina (new)

Christina McMullen (cmcmullen) Surprisingly: You can research the following items on the same day, from the same browser, and not only won't the feds come kick in your door, but you will not end up on a TSA watchlist:

-Government agencies under the Dept of Homeland Security
-Average size and speed of a cross bow bolt
-Can the safety be removed from an automatic weapon?
-Number of unsolved missing persons cases in Louisiana


message 16: by [deleted user] (new)

good to know. I research military stuff all the time--hope it doesn't get me noticed.


message 17: by T.L. (new)

T.L. Clark (tlcauthor) | 727 comments Apparently lots of people survive shootings; it's not the best method of killing someone. I find this very hard to believe given recent headlines, but apparently that's the facts. :-/

And despite many organisations/charities being set up for survivors of child abuse they still struggle to keep up with demand :-(

The overseeing homeland authorities will see your browsing history, but will cross reference with payments coming in from sites such as Amazon before dismissing you as an author.


message 18: by Jolie (new)

Jolie Mason | 41 comments I earned an honorary degree in EMP technology and fusion generators. (Not really). Oh, and I know how it feels to be shot in the stomach. don't ask


message 19: by [deleted user] (new)

T.L. "The overseeing homeland authorities will see your browsing history, but will cross reference with payments coming in from sites such as Amazon before dismissing you as an author."

I'm relieved.


message 20: by T.L. (new)

T.L. Clark (tlcauthor) | 727 comments Morris wrote: "T.L. "The overseeing homeland authorities will see your browsing history, but will cross reference with payments coming in from sites such as Amazon before dismissing you as an author."

I'm relieved."


Yeah, I was too.
What with researching how to shoot people, BDSM and then paedophile sentencing I started to get a little paranoid. ;-P


message 21: by Micah (last edited Oct 06, 2015 07:55AM) (new)

Micah Sisk (micahrsisk) | 1042 comments Research?

Most of my research isn't for my writing. It's just my wandering curiosity.

Lately I've been on a WWI research kick. One thing that stood out as interesting to me was how German Stahlhelme (steel helmets) were made. They were the product of advanced manufacturing techniques unavailable to other nations, involving up to a 12 step process that ensured the helmets retained an even thickness all over.

If you tried to make a helmet in the shape of a Stahlhelm using British manufacturing techniques of the day, the top of the helmet would be so thin as to be totally useless.

Some scholars now believe the protection these helmets provided was at least one reason why German casualties from the extreme pre-attack artillery bombardment by the British at the Somme were so low.


message 22: by C.B. (new)

C.B. Matson | 143 comments Human remains follow only tropical fish as Tampa International Airport's leading cargo.


message 23: by [deleted user] (new)

I learned that in Vietnam, the MRE's Meals, Ready To Eat were called the triple lie. The weren't meals, they weren't ready, and and you couldn't eat them.


message 24: by Tyler (new)

Tyler Woods Morris wrote: "I learned that in Vietnam, the MRE's Meals, Ready To Eat were called the triple lie. The weren't meals, they weren't ready, and and you couldn't eat them."

In Nam, we had MCI Rations (Meal Combat Individual) and LRP Rations (Long Range Patrol). MRE's didn't come on the scene until '81.

That said, the first several versions were exactly as you described and even today, though better, will still plug you up BIG TIME.


message 25: by [deleted user] (new)

I remember Bob Hope joking about the rations mot having an exit strategy.


message 26: by Melissa (new)

Melissa Jensen (kdragon) | 469 comments Gut injuries are the worst injuries a person can get. It involves a long, slow, painful death. Should the victim survive, they'll still have septicemia to deal with, which could also result in a long, slow, painful death.

It is possible to dislocate a rib.


message 27: by Virginia (new)

Virginia | 142 comments Katana are sharpened using choji oil, which is essentially clove oil.

Seeds can remain viable for thousands of years if frozen in a glacier or similar.

Antarctica is covered in a series of fairly large mountain ranges beneath the ice and snow that covers it.

The Flagstaff High School swim team has meets against teams from as far away as Phoenix. (That may be the most useless fact I've picked up in my research.)


message 28: by Charles (new)

Charles Hash | 1054 comments I learned what an Alcubierre Drive is.


message 29: by Christina (new)

Christina McMullen (cmcmullen) Melissa wrote: "Gut injuries are the worst injuries a person can get. It involves a long, slow, painful death. Should the victim survive, they'll still have septicemia to deal with, which could also result in a lo..."

Oh. I did not need to read either of those things right before bed!!!


message 30: by Owen (new)

Owen O'Neill (owen_r_oneill) | 1509 comments I learned who Genrikh Yagoda was. (I could've lived happily not knowing that.)

I learned there is a such a thing as a double-crown wall knot.


message 31: by Kat (new)

Kat I learnt that horse-drawn vehicles are faster, can go further for longer and use less fodder than ox carts.


message 32: by T.L. (new)

T.L. Clark (tlcauthor) | 727 comments Charles wrote: "I learned what an Alcubierre Drive is."

Haha, I just had to look that one up.
I'm sort of disappointed now. I thought it was at least a gangster term. lol


message 33: by Tyler (new)

Tyler Woods Sailing from Hawaii to the US requires you to first sail northwest to the Japanese current.

Some gray whales live year round off the coast of Oregon.

Food doesn't stay in the stomach longer than two hours.


message 34: by Helen (new)

Helen Erwin | 69 comments In the 16th and 17th Century, comets were considered slimy and disgusting.


message 35: by Joe (new)

Joe Jackson (shoelessauthor) Charles wrote: "I learned what an Alcubierre Drive is."

Stuff like that always cracks me up. "If we can just create anti-matter, we can travel faster than light." Commence breath-holding in 3...2...1...


message 36: by Micah (new)

Micah Sisk (micahrsisk) | 1042 comments Charles wrote: "I learned what an Alcubierre Drive is."

I learned they may be EXTREMELY dangerous.


message 37: by Micah (new)

Micah Sisk (micahrsisk) | 1042 comments T.L. wrote: "Charles wrote: "I learned what an Alcubierre Drive is."

Haha, I just had to look that one up.
I'm sort of disappointed now. I thought it was at least a gangster term. lol"


Sounds more like some kind of car for tuna.


message 38: by Micah (last edited Oct 07, 2015 08:27AM) (new)

Micah Sisk (micahrsisk) | 1042 comments Joe wrote: "Charles wrote: "I learned what an Alcubierre Drive is."

Stuff like that always cracks me up. "If we can just create anti-matter, we can travel faster than light." Commence breath-holding in 3......"


We already "create" anti-matter (in small quantities). What you need for one of these is "exotic" matter, or more specifically "negative mass" matter, which is completely theoretical but mathematically "consistent and introduces no violation of conservation of momentum or energy." [Wikipedia on exotic matter.]

So, yeah, don't hold your breath. These drives are the same thing essentially as Star Trek's warp drives. And some mathematicians fairly recently said models show they would basically blow up everything nearby once a ship dropped out of warp drive. Great weapons of mass destruction...lousy traveling companions.


message 39: by Michael (new)

Michael Worthington | 21 comments Prior to the advent of motorized vehicles, county governments maintained roads (essentially dirt trails) within their borders, and cities maintained streets within city limits. Most employed ‘road patrols’ which were gangs of men with mule-pulled equipment that worked a monthly route that covered all of the county roads. They fixed problems as they came upon them, and in northern regions, they used mule-pulled snowplows to keep the roads passable. Road conditions varied considerably from county to county depending on the financing by local governments. The 'Good Roads Movement' in the 1920s to 1930s brought about reforms that included state and federal responsibility for roads.

Needed this for a crime drama describing how the killers escaped.


message 40: by Micah (new)

Micah Sisk (micahrsisk) | 1042 comments Automobiles were originally pushed for because they were...environmentally friendly!

Large urban cities were overrun by (pun) horses and horse drawn vehicles. The amount of poo that was produced daily was an enormous environmental hazard. Added to that, the lack of traffic regulations led to a large number of accidents and injuries to people and animals. Automobiles were seen as an answer to all that. Cars didn't leave biohazards all over the roads. They saved injury and abuse to animals. And new traffic systems were easier to manage because...well, horses don't know what a stop sign is.

And now we're basically reaching that same tipping point where privately owned vehicles are putting a strain on the environment and safety of large urban cities. The next stop...emission neutral engines and driverless cars.


message 41: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 2491 comments Micah wrote: "And new traffic systems were easier to manage because...well, horses don't know what a stop sign is..."

Well...Cars don't know either. Quite honestly, neither do some drivers. :P
And a red light most often means 4-5 more cars can go.


message 42: by K.P. (new)

K.P. Merriweather (kp_merriweather) | 266 comments cool factoids gang! keep up the good work!


message 43: by S.J. (new)

S.J. Higgins | 173 comments I learnt how to assassinate someone in more ways than I care to know. I must just add here that I was not searching for assassination tips. I was trying to find out how long my character would have until he bled out from a nick to the brachial nerve. Needless to say I have also learnt how to define my google searches.


message 44: by Bob (new)

Bob Lee (boblee333) | 14 comments I learned that the fictional Bat Boy didn't appear in print until 1992.


message 45: by Nick (new)

Nick Tingley | 11 comments I learnt that you're more likely to illicit a confession if you allow a suspect to expand and get tangled up in their own lies than if you confront them the moment you realise they are lying... A policeman mate told me that one...


message 46: by [deleted user] (new)

That also ties into something I realized about writing fiction. Fiction is not truth, so it is a lie, by definition. I know, people accept it is not true, so it's okay. Try keeping you "lie" straight for 100k words without an outline!


message 47: by Dwayne, Head of Lettuce (new)

Dwayne Fry | 4443 comments Mod
K.P. wrote: "cool factoids gang! keep up the good work!"

I know, right? I'm feeling so educated now!


message 48: by Dwayne, Head of Lettuce (new)

Dwayne Fry | 4443 comments Mod
Nick wrote: "I learnt that you're more likely to illicit a confession if you allow a suspect to expand and get tangled up in their own lies than if you confront them the moment you realise they are lying... A policeman mate told me that one...
"


It's true. I use that technique in my other job once in a while.


message 49: by Micah (new)

Micah Sisk (micahrsisk) | 1042 comments Bob wrote: "I learned that the fictional Bat Boy didn't appear in print until 1992."

Weekly World News, all the news that IS the news.


message 50: by Denae (new)

Denae Christine (denaechristine) | 167 comments S.J. wrote: "I was trying to find out how long my character would have until he bled out from a nick to the brachial nerve..."
So, how long DOES a character have?

I learned that you can die from hanging upside down too long (something like 12-20 hours).


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