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message 1: by April (new)

April Wilson (aprilwilson) I have a question about CreateSpace and paperbacks.

If I were to upload and approve a print file today, could I replace it in the future with a new version if I decided to make a change? On Amazon, we can upload new e-book files whenever we want and replace what's there with a newer version. Can we do the same with print files on CreateSpace?

Thanks!


message 2: by [deleted user] (new)

Absolutely. The only thing is, your old version is off the market until the new one is approved by them and finally by you. Done several updates, myself.


message 3: by Martin (new)

Martin Wilsey | 447 comments Yes! I love that feature!


message 4: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 2491 comments you also have to stay with the size you first choose. It's tied with your book. Else you can make changes. I just did.


message 5: by Martin (new)

Martin Wilsey | 447 comments Actually you can change the size as well. You just have to modify your trench margin and regenerate your cover. I changed my indent to 3 spaces from 6 spaces and it made the book 14 pages shorter!


message 6: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 2491 comments Martin wrote: "Actually you can change the size as well. You just have to modify your trench margin and regenerate your cover. I changed my indent to 3 spaces from 6 spaces and it made the book 14 pages shorter!"

New size requires a new isbn though.


message 7: by Kat (new)

Kat Just to clear up the "new size" :

New THICKNESS does not require a new ISBN (like Martin did, shaving off 14 pages), but you might need to adjust your cover image file a little bit if the spine changes size.

New LENGTH/HEIGHT requires a new ISBN (for example, changing from 5x8 inches to 6x9 inches), and this will obviously also require a new cover file.


message 8: by [deleted user] (last edited Oct 01, 2015 06:20AM) (new)

When I tried last year to upload a version of my first novel with fewer pages, I was informed that it would be considered another edition, and would require a new ISBN, so I didn't go through with it. This year, though, I decided to go ahead and change it, and all they required was a reformatting of the cover because of the change in thickness. In fact, I've changed two books this year, altering the page count, with no problems, and no new ISBNs required. It looks as if they were either wrong in the first case, or revised their policy in the second.


message 9: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 2491 comments True. When I said size, I meant length/height not pages. My book also lost around 15 pages since its first release and the ISBN stayed the same.

I'm guessing that's why the cover is always revised every time you upload the documents. They want to make sure it still fits.


message 10: by [deleted user] (last edited Oct 01, 2015 10:32AM) (new)

That's weird. I've had multiple updates with Create Space and never had any issues, even though page numbers have gone up, or down. And...even though there is a proof copy process, you don't have to order one if you're satisfied with the way the file looks. I never order one unless I want one. I do resize the cover for the new page tally. If your spine wording is centered, it will still be centered when you resize it.


message 11: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 2491 comments I never had any issues either (crossing fingers).

I check online before they approve and after they approve, yet I still order a proof just because it's fun to have the series of 'proof books' aligned on the shelf. :>

Seriously, I know it's not necessary but I order just in case and I like having the last edition at hand, even if it's stamped 'proof' on the last page. :)


message 12: by R. (new)

R. Billing (r_billing) | 228 comments Yes, I found a typo in the first sentence of TttS after two days and had to fix it that way.


message 13: by [deleted user] (new)

On last thought on print updates. If you delete or add info, it changes your page numbers. If you have a numbered TOC, cross-check and make sure the numbers in your TOC match your numbers of each chapter. One of my first rookie mistakes on my first publication had TOC numbers that were off. So--this should be the absolute last step before uploading your file.


message 14: by Justin (new)

Justin (justinbienvenue) | 790 comments Yes, you can. I uploaded my file 3 different times before I published it lol. It was a pain to keep going back and uploading a different file but I kept finding one thing wrong so after 3 chances I ended up finally getting it right.


message 15: by Anthony Deeney (new)

Anthony Deeney | 437 comments I have made multiple edits of my book, with no problems from CS. I just run through the review process again.

I just cannot sit still with a known typo in my book.


message 16: by Charles (new)

Charles Hash | 1054 comments I really should get around to putting out a print copy with CreateSpace.


message 17: by Charles (new)

Charles Hash | 1054 comments Anthony wrote: "I have made multiple edits of my book, with no problems from CS. I just run through the review process again.

I just cannot sit still with a known typo in my book."


On the bright side, when you become rich and famous, those typo versions become extremely rare and valuable!


message 18: by Grey (new)

Grey Liliy (greyliliy) | 19 comments I feel like if the page count changes that much, then you need a new ISBN number, because it's a New Edition.

I doubt Createspace enforces this particular ruling themselves (because they're not liable for content submitted/maintained), but you probably needed to submit a new edition with a new ISBN to fit Bowker's guidelines.

Last I checked, they only let you keep your ISBN number the same if changes are minor (fixing typos, etc) aka for a "Reprint."

Anything more than that is considered a "New Edition" and requires a new ISBN number. Changing/Dropping 15 pages worth of content would qualify as a New Edition.


message 19: by Anthony Deeney (new)

Anthony Deeney | 437 comments Charles wrote: "I really should get around to putting out a print copy with CreateSpace."

Yes, you should. However, the truth is I sell much less paperbacks than ebooks.

Charles wrote: "On the bright side, when you become rich and famous, those typo versions become extremely rare and valuable! "

Lol, At least one of those things has happened, my typo versions ARE extremely rare.


message 20: by [deleted user] (new)

Grey wrote: "I feel like if the page count changes that much, then you need a new ISBN number, because it's a New Edition.

I doubt Createspace enforces this particular ruling themselves (because they're not li..."


I wanted to change one of mine because I used 13-pt font and wanted to take it down to 11-pt to reduce the number of pages and, thus, the cost. When I finally uploaded a new version that looked the way I wanted it, it actually was a second edition and I labeled it so, although I was not required to get a new ISBN. It seems immaterial because only one copy of the first edition was sold. I sell almost no paperbacks.


message 21: by April (last edited Oct 01, 2015 04:13PM) (new)

April Wilson (aprilwilson) You guys are awesome!! Thank you. I know I can always depend on the GR community with great information and advice. What a great community!

I just wanted to be sure I wasn't locking myself in FOREVER, in case I found a significant mistake later that I just had to change.

Thanks!!

April


message 22: by Andreas (new)

Andreas Laurencius (andreaslaurencius) | 74 comments Anthony wrote: "Lol, At least one of those things has happened, my typo versions ARE extremely rare."

Lol, Anthony, don't worry, believe the other thing will come too!


message 23: by Andreas (last edited Oct 01, 2015 04:53PM) (new)

Andreas Laurencius (andreaslaurencius) | 74 comments I usually wait before submitting the changes until I find 4/5 typos because I have a painful compulsion to recheck every paragraph to see any formatting error that might happen after I edit my work. It's really painful. I've addressed these changes in my september edition just to find that there's a space between a dot and a quotation mark in one sentence. F***! What I'm saying is, if this is your first time proofreading your work, April, you will find errors many times, so I think it's more efficient to wait until you find some and not just one before you submit the new copy to createspace.


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