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message 51: by Benjamin (new)

Benjamin Bohman | 39 comments The translation of Les Mis that I read was also Norman Denny's, and I felt that every passage (even the ones in the back) contributed to the beauty of the novel, rather than made it boring. But yes, its length can be a bit overwhelming at times!

The Old Man and the Sea was a quick read, but it was challenging for me due to Hemingway's style, namely, a lack of adjectives, which, dare I say, made it quite boring.

I finished Crime and Punishment a few days ago. Though the writing is straightforward, there are some philosophical passages that forces one to stop and ponder. That, and the bleakness and despair that is present throughout makes it a difficult book. In other words, I thoroughly enjoyed it.


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Charbel (queez) | 2729 comments Benjamin wrote: "The translation of Les Mis that I read was also Norman Denny's, and I felt that every passage (even the ones in the back) contributed to the beauty of the novel, rather than made it boring. But yes..."

I really want to read Crime and Punishment, fully aware that it is not an easy book.
As for Les Miserables, the length is a bit daunting, but Hugo's writing more than makes up for it. To be fair, something is always lost in the translation, so reading it in something other than French must be a different experience.


message 53: by Pink (new)

Pink Charbel wrote: "I've never read Hemingway, but I hear he over-glorifies war. This is one of the reasons why I am hesitant to read something by him."

I haven't found this. I've liked most of his books, but loved A Farewell to Arms


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Leslie | 16369 comments Charbel wrote: "I've never read Hemingway, but I hear he over-glorifies war. This is one of the reasons why I am hesitant to read something by him."

I don't think he glorifies war but I haven't read any Hemingway other than The Old Man and the Sea (which I quite liked too, Greg) in 30+ years. I disliked him when I read him in school but he was my grandfather's favorite author so I should reread one or two...


message 55: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 16369 comments Benjamin wrote: "I finished Crime and Punishment a few days ago. Though the writing is straightforward, there are some philosophical passages that forces one to stop and ponder. That, and the bleakness and despair that is present throughout makes it a difficult book. In other words, I thoroughly enjoyed it. ..."

Oh, yes -- I would definitely put Fyodor Dostoyevsky on my list of challanging authors! I found both The Brothers Karamazov and Notes from Underground difficult (even more than Crime and Punishment!)


message 56: by Alice (last edited Sep 25, 2015 12:19PM) (new)

Alice Poon (alice_poon) Pink wrote: "Charbel wrote: "I've never read Hemingway, but I hear he over-glorifies war. This is one of the reasons why I am hesitant to read something by him."

I haven't found this. I've liked most of his bo..."


I loved A Farewell to Arms too, but I haven't read any other by Hemingway. I've heard wildly different reactions to The Old Man and the Sea and this one is on my to-read list.

And I've been delaying the reading of Crime and Punishment...


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dely | 5214 comments LauraT wrote: "But that was only boring to death!!!!"

Because of this it was a real challenge for me to finish it. Not only this, I also didn't like the main character and all his fishing. This surely because I'm vegetarian and I can't stand to read how he tortured the fishes. I really hoped he would fall in the water and would have been eaten by the fishes. Then I'm sure I would have liked it.


I like to see the different reactions for the same books. And about Dostoyevsky, I love him and none of his books have been a challenge. I enjoyed them all.


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Greg | 8315 comments Mod
dely wrote: "LauraT wrote: "But that was only boring to death!!!!"

Because of this it was a real challenge for me to finish it. Not only this, I also didn't like the main character and all his fishing. This su..."


Oh my goodness dely, I will definitely not fish around you! :)


message 59: by Pink (new)

Pink Alice I thought The Old Man and the Sea was good, but I've preferred his others, except for a A Moveable Feast which I really didn't enjoy, but I think I'm in the minority there.


message 60: by dely (new)

dely | 5214 comments Greg wrote: "Oh my goodness dely, I will definitely not fish around you! :) "

Lol, better not! :D


message 61: by B the BookAddict (last edited Oct 29, 2015 10:11AM) (new)

B the BookAddict (bthebookaddict) | 8315 comments don, do you mean Cancer Ward by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, I presume. Looking at the blurb, that does look like a tough book. Solzhenitsyn never did anything by halves, did he?


message 62: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 16369 comments B the BookAddict wrote: "don, do you mean Cancer Ward by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, I presume. Looking at the blurb, that does look like a tough book. Solzhenitsyn never did anything by halves, di..."

Even the title makes me cringe.


message 63: by Hales (new)

Hales | 314 comments I thoroughly disliked The Old Man and the Sea thank goodness it was so short.

One Hundred Years of Solitude and The Silmarillion feature a few times on this thread, having read both this year, I must say I loved them both. Whilst they were confusing in places I enjoyed going back over parts to get them firmly in my mind...that said I have probably forgotten most of them now

My most challenging book was The Historian put simply I hated it! The end was the most frustrating, no explanation or completion, so irritating.


message 64: by Greg (last edited Nov 01, 2015 07:49AM) (new)

Greg | 8315 comments Mod
don wrote: "Anything by" W.Sommerset Maughm is nearly impossible. sorry about my lazy spelling...."

don, actually I've enjoyed some by Maugham, though perhaps we're reading different ones?

I didn't find The Razor's Edge or The Painted Veil too difficult, and I quite liked those! I thought The Moon and Sixpence was ok. I haven't tried Of Human Bondage yet though - that's a long one!


message 65: by Petra (last edited Nov 01, 2015 08:00AM) (new)

Petra | 3324 comments I liked Cancer Ward. I found it told a fictionalized story of an actual event in the author's life in a positive way. Sure, some scenes were difficult but overall there was strength, humor and a positive outlook.
I found this positive outlook in One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich as well.
I tried The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956 once but had trouble getting into it. I will try again one day.


message 66: by Beth (last edited Nov 01, 2015 09:50AM) (new)

Beth | 410 comments Benjamin wrote: The Old Man and the Sea was a quick read, but it was challenging for me due to Hemingway's style, namely, a lack of adjectives

I haven't read that one in a long time and don't really remember it, but I read A Farewell to Arms this spring. Hemingway does use fewer adjectives, but I found the challenging part of A Farewell to Arms to be Hemingway's sentence structure; he uses short phrases but combines them in long sentences. Reading a lot of sentences like that that can be difficult.


message 67: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 16369 comments Greg wrote: " don wrote: "Anything by" W.Sommerset Maughm is nearly impossible. sorry about my lazy spelling...."

don, actually I've enjoyed some by Maugham, though perhaps we're reading different ones?

I di..."


Oh, I really like Maugham. Although it is the most famous, In Human Bondage is probably the one I liked least! But even that I liked...


message 68: by Book Ninja (new)

Book Ninja | 213 comments For me it would it be Anna Karenina. It took me almost two years to complete the book. Finishing the book was a challenge for me!


message 69: by B the BookAddict (new)

B the BookAddict (bthebookaddict) | 8315 comments Greg wrote: " don wrote: "Anything by" W.Sommerset Maughm is nearly impossible. sorry about my lazy spelling...."

don, actually I've enjoyed some by Maugham, though perhaps we're reading different ones?

I didn't find The Razor's Edge or The Painted Veil too difficult, and I quite liked those! I thought The Moon and Sixpence was ok. I haven't tried Of Human Bondage yet though - that's a long one!
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There are two movie versions of The Painted Veil: in 1934, the movie starred Greta Garbo; in 2008, it was Naomi Watts, Liev Schreiber and Edward Norton. Watts is good but she just hasn't the sex appeal as Garbo, imo.


message 70: by Benjamin (new)

Benjamin Bohman | 39 comments Rahat- I finished Anna Karenina a few days ago; it certainly was challenging. Although they lent historical and cultural depth to the story, the long passages on agriculture were laborious. However, every moment I spent was well worth the effort.


message 71: by Alice (new)

Alice Poon (alice_poon) Rahat & Benjamin, Anna Karenina is one of my all-time favorites. Not only does it have historical and cultural depth, but the weaving together of stories about three different families, each with its own domestic issues to contend with, is an embodiment of Tolstoy's acute insight into human nature and human relationships.


message 72: by Benjamin (new)

Benjamin Bohman | 39 comments To me, Anna Karenina is more than a work of art; it is a work of life. The intricacies of each character, their thought processes, their reactions, their passions and emotions are as complex and life-like as those of any real person. Each one is so skillfully crafted with beauties and perfections, vices and baseness, that they cross the line from character to creation. Tolstoy has shown his nearly unmatched ability more profoundly in Anna Karenina than even in War and Peace.


message 73: by B the BookAddict (new)

B the BookAddict (bthebookaddict) | 8315 comments @Benjamin and Alice. Well said!


message 74: by John (new)

John Frankham (johnfrankham) A gap in my reading: determined to read it next year. Thanks for the spur.


message 75: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 755 comments Moby Dick - Learned more than I ever cared to know about whaling.

A Clockwork Orange - Had to keep going to the back of the book to find out the meaning of the slang they were using. Drove me absolutely mad.


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LauraT (laurata) | 14361 comments Mod
Rahat wrote: "For me it would it bWar and Peacee Anna Karenina. It took me almost two years to complete the book. Finishing the book was a challenge for me!"

It took me a life to start it, but once I was reading it it didn't take me too long - considering the length. Stilol I find his War and Peace much better


message 77: by Petra (new)

Petra | 3324 comments Ruth wrote: "A Clockwork Orange - Had to keep going to the back of the book to find out the meaning of the slang they were using. Drove me absolutely mad. ..."

While listening to A Clockwork Orange, I wondered if reading the book would have been harder. The slang is natural in speaking; one can pick up the meaning of the words quickly. But reading such unfamiliar words might have been distracting, I thought.
I recommend the audio of this book.

Did you end up liking the book, Ruth?


message 78: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 755 comments Petra I read the book years ago when it first came out. I liked it a lot but I wonder if I read it now whether I would still feel the same way.


Terry ~ Huntress of Erudition | 572 comments "The Fountainhead" and "Les Miserables" for sure!


message 80: by Robin P (new)

Robin P I found Wolf Hall challenging because it's written in such an elliptical way, jumping around and often unclear as to who is speaking or who is referred to. I still liked it but Bring Up the Bodies is much more linear and easier to follow.


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Greg | 8315 comments Mod
Robin wrote: "I found Wolf Hall challenging because it's written in such an elliptical way, jumping around and often unclear as to who is speaking or who is referred to. I still liked it but [book..."

Robin, if I remember correctly, Jean's review mentioned that as well, difficulties in knowing who is speaking / being referred to. But perhaps it was someone else? Anyway, I know I've seen other people mentioning it too!


message 82: by Alice (new)

Alice Poon (alice_poon) Greg wrote: "Robin wrote: "I found Wolf Hall challenging because it's written in such an elliptical way, jumping around and often unclear as to who is speaking or who is referred to. I still like..."

Yes, Robin & Greg, I recently finished reading the book and felt like I had to constantly solve riddles regarding who "he" is. And yes, in some parts the writing is disjointed and threw me off. But the good things about it are that the research is thorough, it does transport you to that historical era, and there are some lines that are beautifully crafted.


message 83: by Alice (new)

Alice Poon (alice_poon) Terry wrote: ""The Fountainhead" and "Les Miserables" for sure!"

Terry, Les Misérables is another of my all-time favorites. The translation I read is by Norman Denny and I loved it. The good thing about it is that the translator picks out the two most boring parts and puts them in the Appendix, so as to let the story flow without interruption.


message 84: by LauraT (last edited Nov 11, 2015 04:36AM) (new)

LauraT (laurata) | 14361 comments Mod
Have you read the whole Inferno?
We've read it through last year, and this one was supposed to be the one for his Purgatorio. I'm terribly behind; I hope in Christmas holidays!!!


message 85: by Petra (new)

Petra | 3324 comments Ruth wrote: "Petra I read the book years ago when it first came out. I liked it a lot but I wonder if I read it now whether I would still feel the same way."

(The Clockwork Orange is the book we're talking about; message 79 & 80 above)

Ruth, some books don't age well. I read it just a couple of years ago and thought it was marvelous. It didn't feel dated.
I haven't watched the movie. I think Hollywood might focus on the violence for "thrill" appeal. Burgess did a great job in getting the violence across without dwelling on it.....Hollywood, on the other hand, loves to dwell on such things.


message 86: by Petra (new)

Petra | 3324 comments LauraT wrote: "Have you read the whole Inferno?
We've read it through last year, and this one was supposed to be the one for his Purgatorio. I'm terribly behind; I hope in Christmas holi..."


Are you asking everyone, Laura?
I've read the entire Inferno and enjoyed it (as much as I could). I did find it dated because of the references to Dante's fellow townsfolks and the politics of the time, etc.
I liked Puratorio the best.....wonder if that says something about me?? :D


message 87: by Jim (last edited Apr 25, 2016 06:15PM) (new)

Jim Townsend | 238 comments Leslie wrote: "I think that Ulysses tops my list. In fact, that was one of my main complaints about it -- it was too much work to read!

I am sure that some of the philosophy books I read in college should be inc..."


I also found One Hundred Years of Solitude difficult for the same reason you cited. Lots of Aurelianos.

Jim


message 88: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 16369 comments Jim wrote: "Leslie wrote: "I think that Ulysses tops my list. In fact, that was one of my main complaints about it -- it was too much work to read!

I am sure that some of the philosophy books I read in colleg..."


Hahaha!! I agree about the Marquez book, Jim!


message 89: by Hannah (new)

Hannah (hannahgsteele) | 331 comments I found Gulag: A History hard to read. Mainly because there was so much information packed in to the book. It's wonderfully written, but it's fact after fact and I had to step away from it at times. So fascinating as well.


message 90: by Manish (new)

Manish Khanka (manishkhanka) | 2 comments Salman Rushdie the moors last sigh was a challenge.
Also My Name is Red by Orhan I found this one challenging because I couldn't make head or tail of it.


message 91: by Manish (new)

Manish Khanka (manishkhanka) | 2 comments Salman Rushdie the moors last sigh was a challenge.
Also My Name is Red by Orhan I found this one challenging because I couldn't make head or tail of it.


message 92: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 16369 comments Oh dear, I have My Name is Red on my TBR for this year...


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Esther (eshchory) | 1368 comments Leslie wrote: "Oh dear, I have My Name is Red on my TBR for this year..."

I have paused My Name is Red. The writting style is enjoyable but the pace so slow I felt my life draining away before anything happened.


message 94: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 16369 comments Esther wrote: "Leslie wrote: "Oh dear, I have My Name is Red on my TBR for this year..."

I have paused My Name is Red. The writting style is enjoyable but the pace so slow I felt my life draining awa..."


I did end up reading this last October (Oct. 2016) & loved it. The pace picks up somewhat as you progress.


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