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I did, I found it enjoyable, but not outstanding.
I didn't read the book, though.

I did, I found it enjoyable, but not outstanding.
I didn't read the book, though."
No, I don't think I have Janice, but somehow on the edges of my memory I'm seeing Nicholas Cage who I understand starred as Antonio. Maybe I caught part of the movie on TV while surfing many moons ago. I'll need to watch the movie sometime although Mariab's experience doesn't encourage me to do so in a hurry :-)
Have you seen the movie and read the book Janice?


Two strikes for the movie so it's a no go then. Besides I usually prefer reading the book than watching the movie.


I loved the fact that this was the Anti-YA Novel/Anti-Book about someone dying of cancer.
It starts out by telling us this will not be a sentimental heart-warming story where profound life lessons are learned.
I loved how this book was far more true to life and the author did not pull any punches. Almost every line within the book was laugh out loud funny. the humor was both edgy and quirky. And I loved how authenticate and retalbale it felt.
Also I enjoyed the various innovative narrative techniques which are used throughout the book.

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Really?I would be interested to know about it

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Really?I would be interested to know about it"
It is gard to expain, the book is told in first person narrative but throught the story he has these quirky different ways of telling the story. Greg the narrator is an aspiring film maker so some chapters will be wriiten in movie script form, or sometimes he will use dilogue (like reading a play) and he uses bulletpoints sometimes. He just knod of mismashes all these different ways of telling a story together. So it isn't just a straight narrative.

I don't think the book deserves some nasty reviews it's received here on GR; whilst not quite as good as Enders' Game, it certainly was a solid four-star read to me. I haven't yet started Speaker for the Dead (the book that originally was the next in the series), so I can't yet say how helpful in understanding the whole story it was to read Ender in Exile first (i.e. not in publication order), but I feel that it helped at least me a lot.

I guess... I saw somewhere an uncensored version of it, I wonder how much it differs from the version we know.

I listened to the audio version of the book a year or so ago. I quite liked it. I think I saw the film first. How do you think they compared? I really liked the gothicness of it all (book and film)

Did you like anything about it Mariab or was it neither here nor there?!




Me too! I had already marked it to read, but I have moved it up on my list. Thanks, all!


The book carried a mystery through to the last couple chapters with no clues to figure it out. There was also some historical basis to the setting of the story which was interesting. In the end love wins out, what's not to like.

Now I'm on to another book. This one is a book of short stories. Funny title - Barbara the Slut and Other People. I've read two stories so far, and liked them quite a bit. Lauren Holmes, the author, writes rather in the Hemingway style in terms of short, direct language and sentence construction. I've had several laugh-out-loud moments already : )
My pig book - The Good Good Pig: The Extraordinary Life of Christopher Hogwood - got delayed, but hopefully I'll still get to it this month. It should be a pretty quick read I think.

It is #8 in a twelve book series that I picked up this year. It's a mystery series with a small town Rabbi as a kind of detective. This particular book isn't much of a mystery, more of an excuse to explain conservative Judaism. I still liked it, it was informative but I like the real mysteries better.

I adored that book, though I agreed that I didn't like the stereotype. That didn't bother me too much though, given both the reality of how people spoke and made that caricature at the time, and the era when the book was written.
For my challenge this month I read Venetia which actually has more characters with deeper faults. It includes chauvinism, bigotry, bias against the disabled, serious family dysfunction, and overbearing paternalism. Yet, Venetia has a personality that allows her to make the best of bad situations, and she rarely feels down despite some really obnoxious people.
I struggled with this book because Venetia finds preference for people with character flaws that I find repulsive. These include a lecherous father figure (eww), a rake who is unrepentant about assaulting women, and open acceptance of infidelity. Despite her intelligence and strength of character, it seems that nearly every man in the book steamrolls over her or uses her in some way, and she takes it because she so few options. But she also dismisses many situations as less serious than they are, which does at times lead to bigger problems.
Overall, it's a very well written book, which includes many of the less savory elements of the time as matters of course. In that way I liked it, as it didn't imply that men accustomed to having mistresses would change they ways dramatically just because they get married. And it doesn't over romanticize romantic love. Societal approval or shunning is an important theme, as well as how circumstances outside one's control could put one in an undesirable social position. Yet, it doesn't take itself too seriously, so it isn't a depressing or angsty read. Thank goodness.


It was a 3 Star read for me.
Flirting with Pete is a story within the story of a young woman who never met her father in life, and like him, Casey Ellis becomes a therapist. She's a whiny character that about drove me crazy for 3/4's of the novel, but she does redeem herself in the last 150 pages. The story line that held my attention was that of Marybeth Jennifer Clyde. Her father killed Jenny's mother as the woman beat Jenny. Jenny has no friends. Folks in Little River shun her - maybe out guilt, shame, or pure meanness. About a week before Darden Clyde is released from prison people begin to take notice, especially a handsome young man from Wyoming riding a big motorcycle. Pete is his name. And when he stops to give Jenny a ride home from the dance, well she flirts with him. And he LIKES her too! Pete's everything Jenny dreamt that "her man" would be and more. She and Pete fall in love. They ride his motorbike wildly, go to the Quarry, and much more. Jenny thinks Pete is too good to be true, and he is.
Meanwhile, Psychoanalyst Casey Ellis finds herself in a state of confusion. Her practice needs to relocate, thanks to one of her partners, her mother is still in a vegetative state, and her father has just died. The father she's only seen in public lecture halls. She is the product of his one digression. She's floored when she inherits Connie's Beacon Hill Home. It comes with a very handsome, enigmatic gardener and a maid. Cornelius Unger kept his practice here and just maybe she could too. She has doubts as she wanders from the office into a glorious garden. Her resolve not to have anything to do with Connie begins to crack, especially when she finds a thick envelope with "C she's kin, help her" scrawled in her father's handwriting.
Casey opens the envelope to find Flirting with Pete. Casey wonders if the pages are Fiction, a Journal, or a Case Study. Convinced that Connie left the envelope for her, Casey begins to read. Soon she is drawn into Jenny Clyde's story, and becomes frighten for the young woman. Casey must find Jenny and help her, but she needs to find the rest of the manuscript. It's just like her father to make her search a scavenger hunt. And that is exactly what it is. As Casey puts Jenny's story together, she also discovers her father. And she is about to discover that nothing in her new life is what it appears to be. There is a fine line between what is real and what is imagined.

I really liked the gothicness of it too, I think they are really much alike, maybe the film showed more of the depravation of Dorian. That is why I was curious to see how much of it may have been censored.





@Lori - So now I'm none the wiser whether to read Ender in Exile next or Speaker of the Dead! I wonder what Card says about the order - I might have to go google.

Defending Jacob, as I already noted, was a disturbing book in terms of the subject-matter. The author does a good job of weaving the story together and maintaining suspense throughout. It's not a book I would typically pick up, but did because of this challenge, and it piqued my interest. It's pretty much a page-turner, and I read it in just a couple of reading sessions.
The other book I completed was Barbara the Slut and Other People, a collection of 10 short stories. The first two I found very humorous, but after that they were more serious in tone. As you might surmise from the title, sexuality was an important aspect in the stories here. The author has a forthright approach and is good at creating interesting, believable characters that kept me engaged. I liked the writing but sometimes was left wanting more in that the stories didn't really go any where much, obviously a deliberate thing. Maybe kind of part of the author's style, maybe something experimental, but good writing and interesting to read.


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Defending Jacob: A Novel (other topics)Barbara the Slut and Other People (other topics)
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Songs of Willow Frost (other topics)
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My other book was very different: The Maya Papyrus by Richard Coady. This book takes place about 5000 years ago in Egypt. Part of it is taken from the papers/sort of diary (papyrus) written by Nefertiti's brother Maya (all fiction!). The other part is a description of everything that happens (with changing viewpoint). The story is about 6 pharaohs and some of the difficulties they encounter. I really enjoyed it, but after about 400 pages and 4 pharaohs, it got a little boring (later that changed again).