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I was sick of his undeserved mooning over BS, then I felt he was cheated out of a declaration from her in the end.
In the hands of a woman author, I think Oak and BS finally getting together would have been more satisfying. I wanted romantic declaration as a reward for Oak. But she was still vain.
I only gave this a 4-star rating bec Oak was cheated, and me as well. I wanted a payoff for putting up with a great man like Oak mooning over that egotistical, vain girl through the whole book.


You're right, though that she didn't learn, at least not what I wanted her to learn.
Oak was too good for her.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who didn't want to see Gabriel with Bathsheba. I really wanted him to find someone deserving of the amazing person he is. I guess I don't read enough what would be termed "romance novels" to care about the declaration so much, but I also wanted the appreciation for him. And an apology. She put him through so much crap, and then when he finally decides to do what's best for him she tries to make it about her again. She deserved him to pine for her, and she's the victim again because he's just going to leave her. Part of me feels less like she really loved him, and more that she wanted him there to pretend she didn't need him to lean on.
I do have to say, having watched the movie a second time, it does annoy me a little. The first time I was focusing a lot on the scenes, and costumes, etc. but it really does feel like they tempered Gabriel's character a great deal. They made the story more centered around Bathsheba, victim of Troy, victim of Boldwood being slightly obsessed. There's little of her discussions with Boldwood that show her responsible for starting the situation. It's subtle, if you hadn't read the book you'd probably never realize it. But there are parts of Gabriel standing up to her that are removed completely. The part where he talks to her about Troy, and tells her its the second time she's pretended to fire him... Is reduced to him saying he'd like to stay there and support her if she'll allow him. It's still a great movie, but that disappointed me.
Meanwhile, my mother doesn't care for classic literature, but likes the films, so she had no idea of the storyline when I watched it with her the second time. By the end it was - I knew he would end up being stupid and staying there with her. Why did you make me watch this movie...
I do have to say, having watched the movie a second time, it does annoy me a little. The first time I was focusing a lot on the scenes, and costumes, etc. but it really does feel like they tempered Gabriel's character a great deal. They made the story more centered around Bathsheba, victim of Troy, victim of Boldwood being slightly obsessed. There's little of her discussions with Boldwood that show her responsible for starting the situation. It's subtle, if you hadn't read the book you'd probably never realize it. But there are parts of Gabriel standing up to her that are removed completely. The part where he talks to her about Troy, and tells her its the second time she's pretended to fire him... Is reduced to him saying he'd like to stay there and support her if she'll allow him. It's still a great movie, but that disappointed me.
Meanwhile, my mother doesn't care for classic literature, but likes the films, so she had no idea of the storyline when I watched it with her the second time. By the end it was - I knew he would end up being stupid and staying there with her. Why did you make me watch this movie...

It was pretty faithful to the narrative. And it's gorgeous to watch. Like I said, it's very subtle differences. It feels like they were trying to make her look less responsible for any of the situation and had to pull back his character some for it.
Like he didn't unnecessarily moon over her and let her by with enough already...
Like he didn't unnecessarily moon over her and let her by with enough already...

I think my sister will enjoy it as she loves British period drama too. However she doesn't know anything about this book or move. Both are totally off of her radar.

I haven't seen the movie yet, I was waiting to finish the book first, but I've had so many people tell me it's great. Of course most, if not all of them, haven't read the book, so we'll see.

Nikki, as much as I generally enjoyed the book, (view spoiler) I was very disappointed. I think in a woman writer's hands, we would have got what we wanted!
Nikki wrote: "Andrea, I completely agree!"
Yes... Just, yes... Poor Gabriel, he really did deserve more.
The movie is really good. I took issue with some of the way they cut things, but it is a fair representation. And it's GORGEOUS! Definitely watch it.
Yes... Just, yes... Poor Gabriel, he really did deserve more.
The movie is really good. I took issue with some of the way they cut things, but it is a fair representation. And it's GORGEOUS! Definitely watch it.
Boldwood is tried for Troy's murder the following March and sentenced to death, but a community petition of insanity grants him a stay of execution and life in prison.
That summer Bathsheba goes to visit Troy's grave where she had him buried next to Fanny. While inspecting the tombstone, Gabriel arrive at the churchyard. He tells her he is planning to give up Boldwood's farm and go to California the next year.
He avoids her until Christmas, when he notifies her by letter he will not renew his contract with her.
She was aggrieved and wounded that the possession of hopeless love from Gabriel, which she had grown to regard as her inalienable right for life, should have been withdrawn just at his own pleasure in this way.
She goes to his home that evening, and he tells her he is no longer planning to leave,but plans to stay and purchase Little Weatherbury. He offers to help her, if people weren't assuming he intended to marry her as well.
Yes; of course, it is too absurd. I don't desire any such thing; I should think that was plain enough by this time. Surely, surely you be the last person in the world I think of marrying. It is too absurd, as you say.
Too soon' was what I said. But it doesn't matter a bit—not at all—but I only meant, 'too soon.' Indeed, I didn't, Mr. Oak, and you must believe me!
“Bathsheba," he said, tenderly and in surprise, and coming closer: "if I only knew one thing—whether you would allow me to love you and win you, and marry you after all—if I only knew that!"
"But you never will know," she murmured.
Why?
Because you never ask.
Gabriel and Bathsheba are quietly married a few weeks later.
Where, however, happy circumstance permits its development, the compounded feeling proves itself to be the only love which is strong as death—that love which many waters cannot quench, nor the floods drown, beside which the passion usually called by the name is evanescent as steam