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Jul 25, 2015 06:13PM
Alright, I admit, and you've probably noticed, that I have been a bit dormant for awhile. Well, I will have to concede, I'm out of ideas. I'm sorry. So I am opening this up to anyone who does have an idea or a request for a topic or subject on which they would like to discuss. You may post it here in this thread and I will start, or even open it up yourself. All thoughts welcome!
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Ok, I have a topic -- and it may be one that has already been discussed, but I'm going to play the newbie card and ask anyhow!Has anyone tried to publish their own art book or book about some aspect of the arts, and what did you find out?
I have several topics:I would like to talk about the curatorial process and if anyone worked on it?
the second would be the art as a healing method, more linked to mental illness, I would work it in my thesis.
Third, I want to do my master's degree in art history and theory some advice or something.
we could also talk about the symbolism in the work of Paula Rego and Andrzej Wróblewski.
Those are great topics, Leah and Karl. I'll have to think about how to get these going. Thank you for your help!
Leah, I started a new thread in the folder Talent of the Membershttps://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Good Luck!
Karl, I love your topics! Those are some that I would have never thought of.We do have a folder labeled Art History, you may want to peruse that to see if it answers any questions. I added a new thread for you. Also, please feel free to add your own questions!
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Karl, I like your topic ideas. Heather, I think most moderators run out of ideas at some time or another. I know I have in the groups I moderate.
Here's another one, Karl.Symbolism in Art
Dame Paula Rego
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Andrzej Wróblewski
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
I don't know anything about either artist so it's your turn. Take it away!
Heather wrote: "Alright, I admit, and you've probably noticed, that I have been a bit dormant for awhile. Well, I will have to concede, I'm out of ideas. I'm sorry. So I am opening this up to anyone who does have ..."In time I will start a discussion about the founders of the state of Modern Art today, Cezanne, Picasso and Matisse. I'm sure that enthusiastic opinions about this will be a source of interest disagreements.
As topics here discuss assorted isms, I suggest one on Surrealism.
Poly wrote: "As topics here discuss assorted isms, I suggest one on Surrealism."wow, I didn't even realize we didn't have that subject. That is one of my favorites! I will open the discussion right away, Poly.
Poly wrote: "As topics here discuss assorted isms, I suggest one on Surrealism."That was a good idea, Poly. It's there...check it out!
Thanks. It seems all the topics aren't in one place so I have to get used to finding my way around
I'd like to see a topic about art galleries in general- what people want to see in them, what they don't want to see, favourite art galleries.I'm interested in starting my own art gallery, but there don't seem to be a lot near me. There are a bunch of highly respected art museums near me.
Poly, I happened to find a thread we had started in 2012 on Surrealism. I will attach the link here. We can still add to the most recent one I began in September of last year.https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Melissa, we could begin a new discussion about art galleries. That is a good idea. I did find a thread also begun all the way back in 2010. I will attach the link but if you would like me to start a new thread, let me know or you can begin your own topic with your questions.https://www.goodreads.com/topic/group...
Leah wrote: "Ok, I have a topic -- and it may be one that has already been discussed, but I'm going to play the newbie card and ask anyhow!Has anyone tried to publish their own art book or book about some asp..."
Leah wrote: "Ok, I have a topic -- and it may be one that has already been discussed, but I'm going to play the newbie card and ask anyhow!
Has anyone tried to publish their own art book or book about some asp..."
As a bookseller I will tell you that it's virtually impossible to publish anything these days unless you do it yourself. It's awful out there. HOWEVER....that's a call to press your own books like they did in the 20's, and bring together artists, writers, printers, advertising artists, etc. to bypass the ridiculousness of the publishing mafia today. It's been done before! If you want to get into it, there's a huge history of self publishing going back to the invention of the printing press.
Amy, thank you for that answer from a different perspective. I hope you don't mind, but I copied your answer(s) and pasted them also under the Folder: Talent of the Members > Publishing Hope that's okay.
Heather wrote: "Amy, thank you for that answer from a different perspective. I hope you don't mind, but I copied your answer(s) and pasted them also under the Folder: Talent of the Members > Publishing Hope that's..."Sure, thank you!
The craze of "Book Arts" has a good thought, but nobody needs ten thousand blank journals. For the artistically inclined, create book covers for the books you love best Just For Fun.
Amy wrote: "The craze of "Book Arts" has a good thought, but nobody needs ten thousand blank journals. For the artistically inclined, create book covers for the books you love best Just For Fun."But back to the topic, I'm in for whatever!
I meant everyone, not the "artistically inclined". That was a silly thing for me to say:)
You're funny, Amy. I am NOT artistically inclined!
I am just reviewing this thread to see if there are suggestions or requests that I haven't answered or acted upon yet. Is there anyone who has suggested something, and is still in the group, wondering why I didn't start the thread for them? I feel grateful for the suggestions and want to have addressed them all. Please let me know if I missed yours or even if there are any NEW suggestions for me!
Greatly appreciated! ~Heather
Heather wrote: "Melissa, we could begin a new discussion about art galleries. That is a good idea. I did find a thread also begun all the way back in 2010. I will attach the link but if you would like me to start ..."Melissa, I added another comment to the thread you began in January of this year and invited people to add to your comment.
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Poly wrote: "In time I will start a discussion about the founders of the state of Modern Art today, Cezanne, Picasso and Matisse. I'm sure that enthusiastic opinions about this will be a source of interest disagreements."Poly, I like your suggestion. I can't remember if that one has been started or not. Did you begin it in another thread and I didn't see it? (or forgot). I would like to look at it again if you've posted it. If it hasn't been posted yet, it would be great to start the discussion!
Thank you!
A few general comments about museums. I have been more inspired by small museums than larger metropolitan museum. I have lived in both Atlanta and Boston and found both their city museums somewhat lackluster. On the other hand there's a museum in Hartford, the Muskegon Museum in Michigan, the MACAY in Merida, Mexico and the especially the Knoxville TN museum, to be sparkling hidden gems. I also lived in Mexico City for two years and frequented regularly the Tamayo and Museum of Modern Art, both of which were disappointments. The DF Museum of Modern Art has an excellent collection of Mexican art from 80 years ago but its photography collection is insufferably bad. The contemporary shows are a mixed bag with some excellent shows amid a flurry of duds. There's a Fluxus artist, Felipe Ehrenberg, whose work is absolutely boring but was given a major retrospective as he's a Europeanized artist, paying homage to Bueys. The only work of his that is worthwhile is his CODEX EHRENBERG, an artist book he did with Nexus Press of Atlanta, Georgia.I have been to the Knoxville Museum three times and twice I saw fantastically original work. The first was a glass artist who had a foundry and crew who did improvised replicas of neolithic art. I say improvise, not replicate, as he extrapolated from known artifacts and made singularly original pieces.
The second was a Japanese photographer living in the fish market of Tokyo who created original art concoctions out of the various seafood.
As for the Muskegon Museum, they have the most extensive collection of Francoise Gilot's art work. She was the mistress to Picasso for 12 years and wrote a biting tribute to the genius in a biography which got her blacklisted by the Don. No one would touch her despite the excellence of her work with the exception of the Muskegon which added her to their collections.
Here, here for the Knoxville art museum. Been there several times. Geoffrey, don't you have your work there, too?
Yes, Heather, how did you know? I love the museum and donated a print to their fundraiser in 2004. Somehow, the piece never got into the auction and languished in their basement. A gallery owner who had repped me turned museum volunteer saw the work, alerted me, and the museum ended up acquiring the piece.I know it sounds like I'm aggrandizing a museum that has my piece but the fact is that they had it initially as it is my favorite southern museum.
Geoffrey wrote: "Yes, Heather, how did you know? I love the museum and donated a print to their fundraiser in 2004. Somehow, the piece never got into the auction and languished in their basement. A gallery owner wh..."I used to live in Knoxville, and being a lover of art, I frequented the museum quite frequently. And, I must confess, though I don't know your last name, Geoffrey, you once mentioned, maybe a few years ago, that it had your work. I cheated. But I remembered because I've been there. I second your opinion of the simple beauty of the museum.
Maybe we can get a general advertising section? I've discovered authors by seeing their posts in groups I belong to advertising their books, and most don't go overboard advertising their books. Something for my online bookstore or small publishers to advertise would be nice, too.
That's a good idea, Melissa. I 'tried' to do that by creating a couple of folders "Show us your Written Art" for those who have written books or poetry, etc. then I have the folder "Talent of the Members". These were the places I was thinking people could 'advertise' what they are doing. Ruth, one of the members, has been really good in the "Show us your Written Art" folder by posting several of her poems and telling us of all the success she has had. She is really good! I know of several other authors of art books in the group some of whom haven't even mentioned that they wrote their own book. Jonathan is one incredible author whose book has been talked about by several of us members but he never speaks of it himself. Poly has 'advertised' her book in just about every thread. So I think you have a good idea in putting it all together into one folder and actually asking people to tell us what they have done and what they are doing with their work.
Thank you for the suggestion. I will do that...thanks to you!
I think it would be fun to have more serious discussion using art books as a core. Either biographies (e.g. Velazquez, Picasso, van Gogh) or books about art movements/themes (e.g. 19th century, Victorian, women in arts, sculpture etc). The group would probably be reaching out towards all kinds of artists and works throughout such books. It could be a lot of fun and enriching! :) Just an idea...
Would anybody be interested in a buddy read or something of that nature focusing on an art history book? Hmm, I need to read Gombrich's book The Story of Art.
It has been on my reading list forever, but there are plenty of other books in that pile. I'm easy. It would just be fun to chat art history with other enthusiasts. I'm keen to ponder different art pieces.
Perhaps it is time to complete that Velazquez journey?
Yes, it a magic gateway into seeing and experiencing art. Gombrich weaves his web very well... ! Such an amazing time machine allowing us to travel through the ages.
I was thinking about perusing Stokstadt or Janson (the mega art history texts), but I'm afraid I will hurt myself in case I fall asleep while reading. :OArt History
Pardon my ignorance, so much to catch up with! I had promised to start adding images of art, but not exactly sure where I can make a post about it. Do you all get updates when photos are added?For my first addition I have added the "Hands" at the Cuevas de las Manos upon Río Pinturas, near the town of Perito Moreno in Santa Cruz Province, Argentina.
This is Ancient Art, and I did not see if there was such a thread, maybe Art History?
Haaze wrote: "I was thinking about perusing Stokstadt or Janson (the mega art history texts), but I'm afraid I will hurt myself in case I fall asleep while reading. :OArt History
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Oh, do opt for the Stokstad. I used to use Janson as a text for my Art History course, but felt sorry for my students wading through it. Stokstad is like a breath of fresh air. I quickly adopted it as my text. Easy to read, sprightly writing, more women anqd minorities. Just an excellent book. Makes Janson look like an old fogie.
Nice advice, Ruth! Thank you! It seems like Stokstad is a more well-rounded text compared to the competition. It is such a treasure trove. It is amazing that it is about 1200 pages and still just touches the surface of art history!
@ Aaron. There is an Art History folder. I don't know if there is an ancient art thread. You're welcome to start one there! I look forward to your posts.Oh sometimes it doesn't show all the folders because there are so many. At the top right you can choose 'all' to view all folders and scroll through them. Let me know if you can't find it.
And as far as updates, at the top of the general folder i try to post the newest threads and folders as they are created by date. The March 2017 is of course at the bottom of the folder. You can see what has been added when.
Thanks Heather, thinking about this I intended to open one and then realized why create such a broad topic when technically my first share doesn't fall under the period of "classical antiquity" as the word "Ancient" might suggest to most. So perhaps I'll open one on Primeval Art first?Still I would welcome others to do so as most of my collection falls under the traditionalist classicist period of the 19th century.
Aaron wrote: "Thanks Heather, thinking about this I intended to open one and then realized why create such a broad topic when technically my first share doesn't fall under the period of "classical antiquity" as ..."Aaron, would you like me to create your own folder so you can compartmentalize your various subjects? If so, let me know what you would like to name your folder and you can create the topics as you please.
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