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Should we add the books to the bookshelf just for the sake of it so people see the order of it easily and what books members haven't read yet?
I like it! It's a good background for a banner.
I'm going to get started on the Age Guide today, and investigate the wildlife of the New Forest (I live near it - it's where the Forest Territory was based) to see if there are other possible prefixes or suffixes we could include. I have a small list already of possibilities thanks to the Lake District (Lake Territory is all made up, but the Lake District has all the key parts: lakes, valleys/cliffs, moorland, rocky fells, woodlands,... all it's missing is mountain cats, since that part they took from US). It'll give us more possibilities and some more originality :)
I can also look into whether there are any more prey-types available in the Lake District (there are a lot) which will give the cats more to hunt than just mice, shrew, vole, fish, crow, sparrow, rabbit, etc etc.
I'm going to get started on the Age Guide today, and investigate the wildlife of the New Forest (I live near it - it's where the Forest Territory was based) to see if there are other possible prefixes or suffixes we could include. I have a small list already of possibilities thanks to the Lake District (Lake Territory is all made up, but the Lake District has all the key parts: lakes, valleys/cliffs, moorland, rocky fells, woodlands,... all it's missing is mountain cats, since that part they took from US). It'll give us more possibilities and some more originality :)
I can also look into whether there are any more prey-types available in the Lake District (there are a lot) which will give the cats more to hunt than just mice, shrew, vole, fish, crow, sparrow, rabbit, etc etc.
I actually love that, Ren! That would be awesome.
Woah, that's amazing that you live near there ^~^ I can't wait to see what you come up with. I'm going to try and at least start my ThunderClan deputy before my friends get here and we leave for the weekend.
Woah, that's amazing that you live near there ^~^ I can't wait to see what you come up with. I'm going to try and at least start my ThunderClan deputy before my friends get here and we leave for the weekend.
What's our stance on the names:
Shadow-
Thunder-
Wind-
River-
Moon-
Sky-
?
The Clans don't like using the aforementioned four because of the original four leaders, but I know there are some claimed names with those prefixes and it's listed as a prefix.
Moon, I know you use as a prefix Ari, and we have Moonpelt too. It's your decision for sure here, since it's a very rare and special name due to Moonstone/Moonpool.
Obviously Star is out of the question.
Sky.. Well, we don't have SkyClan, so is it fine to use Sky as a prefix?
I'll post a list of more prefixes later on the prefix/suffix topic :)
Shadow-
Thunder-
Wind-
River-
Moon-
Sky-
?
The Clans don't like using the aforementioned four because of the original four leaders, but I know there are some claimed names with those prefixes and it's listed as a prefix.
Moon, I know you use as a prefix Ari, and we have Moonpelt too. It's your decision for sure here, since it's a very rare and special name due to Moonstone/Moonpool.
Obviously Star is out of the question.
Sky.. Well, we don't have SkyClan, so is it fine to use Sky as a prefix?
I'll post a list of more prefixes later on the prefix/suffix topic :)
Agreed on Sky.
I like the idea of reincarnation-type prophecies! That would definitely be something interesting to explore soon.
I like the idea of reincarnation-type prophecies! That would definitely be something interesting to explore soon.
I think that all works. The only reason I allow Moon is because there was a Moonflower in the books. So, why not? But it's only in certain circumstances: Shiningmoon was named for when she disguised herself as a StarClan cat, and her daughter was named for her. I actually don't know what the reason is for Moonpelt though....
I was reading the other day that Moonflower was a mistake but it was too late to change it, but I think that as long as there's a good reason and we mods agree.. Yeah?
I've heard that too, it's just, like how does a mistake that big get past the rules? I suppose we'll never know ^~^ But yes, that will work.
Haha. Yeah.
What do you guys think of my suggestion of Clan-specific discussion topics? To limit the chat within Open/Claim topics to just the Clans, plus discuss small plots
What do you guys think of my suggestion of Clan-specific discussion topics? To limit the chat within Open/Claim topics to just the Clans, plus discuss small plots
Haha. Yeah.
What do you guys think of my suggestion of Clan-specific discussion topics? To limit the chat within Open/Claim topics to just the Clans, plus discuss small plots
What do you guys think of my suggestion of Clan-specific discussion topics? To limit the chat within Open/Claim topics to just the Clans, plus discuss small plots
Hm, that could work. I'm trying to limit the topics we make now, since the group is really crowded it seems. We may need to start combining a few topics, like maybe just a Character Request thread for people to find mentors, crushes, etc.
I've just updated needed cats, and based on the fact that there are currently 20 open RiverClan cats, and 22 total (non-high rank) cats.. should we close RiverClan down for a while until those cats are claimed or put as all-play?
There are:
--11 warriors
--3 apprentices
--1 queen
--2 kits
--3 elders
open, so I could close down warriors instead only, but that still leaves 9 cats open.
The other Clans have:
ShadowClan: 11 cats open
ThunderClan: 7 cats open
WindClan: 8 cats open
So it's a fairly large gap. I was considering closing ShadowClan warriors down since 6 SC warriors are open, but they need mentors for when Berryflight's apprentice litter is all filled up.
Thoughts?
There are:
--11 warriors
--3 apprentices
--1 queen
--2 kits
--3 elders
open, so I could close down warriors instead only, but that still leaves 9 cats open.
The other Clans have:
ShadowClan: 11 cats open
ThunderClan: 7 cats open
WindClan: 8 cats open
So it's a fairly large gap. I was considering closing ShadowClan warriors down since 6 SC warriors are open, but they need mentors for when Berryflight's apprentice litter is all filled up.
Thoughts?
Hmm. I'd prefer not shutting any roleplays down because I don't want to limit people. Maybe we just close down new characters for any Clan but RC. Other than people with special permission...
Sorry, I meant new characters! Should we close RiverClan warriors then? That way it encourages people to pick up these warriors, even if it's simply as a side.
After the Gathering, all of my remaining open characters above the rank of apprentice are going to be all-play, but obviously I want to give some time and see if anyone is interested first.
After the Gathering, all of my remaining open characters above the rank of apprentice are going to be all-play, but obviously I want to give some time and see if anyone is interested first.
No worries, Ren! You focus on Tribe :) I THINK I've got everything smooth here in the Clans, asides what Arieya has to do when she's able :)
Yeah, let's shut down Character Approval for any characters that are not RiverClan. Though I think we can leave all ranks open for now...we'll see how it goes.
We need to close RiverClan, not open it :) I'll post my thing from Needed Cats that says close/open, after I review it today. I only close it if there are: two more apprentices than there are warriors, two different litters of kits but only one queen, etc. I don't close it until it's "oh crap, we've run out of mentors/queens!"
That's...what I meant. Ugh, I'm so tired I can't even type what I'm thinking XD You do that...I'll rest my brain so I'm not typing random stuff.
Alrighty, I can do that now. I was working on ThunderClan deputy. Finally got him finished! Though it did add some new TC open characters...
Haha, yeah I always put even more cats on my own list to make. I don't know when I'll get around to them XD
Coolio!
Coolio!
Heh, same. I keep wanting to make them.. I probably will make some of my open characters (the rest all-play) if not taken, so that way I can play them AND I can kill them off.
^~^ I just started Shadewhisper myself. I'll see if I can get her posted before tomorrow. I'm babysitting tonight so that should give me some time.
Ok, we need to decide what parts of a cat's description we are not going to approve of, and we need to set it out so that people understand, and for us to refer to :) So:
Natural Pelt Colours
- White
- Black
- Red (Orange/Ginger)
- Blue-Grey
- Cream
- Brown
- Cinnamon/Fawn
Natural Coat Patterns
- Solid
- Tabby
- Bicolour
- Tortoiseshell
- Calico (Tricolour)
- Colourpoint
- Tipped (eg. hair follicles tipped darker colours)
- Shaded
- Smoked
Natural Eye Colours
- Green (can be aqua/torquoise, but usually very bright or clear)
- Blue (can be light, or dark. Ice blue is rarer)
- Amber / Yellow (as dark as copper, as light as pale yellow)
- Hazel
- Copper
- Brown
- Heterochromia / Odd-Eyes (commonly: Amber/Blue, Green/Blue, Pale Yellow/Blue, Brown/Blue. One eye will always be blue unless someone can find me an article that shows a rarer non-blue eye heterochromia in cats)
- Dichroic / Dichromatic eyes (two colours in one eye, and usually only effects one eye. Commonly, one colour is a ring in the eye, and less commonly 'slice of pie' dichroic eyes happen, where two colours share half an eye, and usually the cat is white-pelted).
- Albino eyes (only happens in white-pelted cats, and almost entirely only happens with Oriental breeds or in-bred cats. Colours: pale lilac, pink. Very photosensitive)
- Pink eyes (albinism, or in cases of disease)
That's what I've researched. But if one of you could write it out better, and we could perhaps put it under the Character Template for people to read through? Also, anything you can add? :)
My information came from here and here!
Natural Pelt Colours
- White
- Black
- Red (Orange/Ginger)
- Blue-Grey
- Cream
- Brown
- Cinnamon/Fawn
Natural Coat Patterns
- Solid
- Tabby
- Bicolour
- Tortoiseshell
- Calico (Tricolour)
- Colourpoint
- Tipped (eg. hair follicles tipped darker colours)
- Shaded
- Smoked
Natural Eye Colours
- Green (can be aqua/torquoise, but usually very bright or clear)
- Blue (can be light, or dark. Ice blue is rarer)
- Amber / Yellow (as dark as copper, as light as pale yellow)
- Hazel
- Copper
- Brown
- Heterochromia / Odd-Eyes (commonly: Amber/Blue, Green/Blue, Pale Yellow/Blue, Brown/Blue. One eye will always be blue unless someone can find me an article that shows a rarer non-blue eye heterochromia in cats)
- Dichroic / Dichromatic eyes (two colours in one eye, and usually only effects one eye. Commonly, one colour is a ring in the eye, and less commonly 'slice of pie' dichroic eyes happen, where two colours share half an eye, and usually the cat is white-pelted).
- Albino eyes (only happens in white-pelted cats, and almost entirely only happens with Oriental breeds or in-bred cats. Colours: pale lilac, pink. Very photosensitive)
- Pink eyes (albinism, or in cases of disease)
That's what I've researched. But if one of you could write it out better, and we could perhaps put it under the Character Template for people to read through? Also, anything you can add? :)
My information came from here and here!
Alright that looks good. Though we should outline under each color what exact shades are allowed as well. No neon green or anything.
And add tawny to the pelts.
And add tawny to the pelts.
Draft so far includes: breeds, pelt colours. How's this so far?
The following are approved appearances for cats of the forest. These are general descriptions that are allowed. We want to be as realistic as possible in the appearance of the cats, Clans or not, but there will be occasional exceptions. We have tried to include all mutations as well. If you see a ♦ symbol, this means that it is a rare mutation.
Breeds
We have no regulations on breeds, but remember that the territories are set in England. Therefore, here are the top 10 breeds of cat in England kept as house pets, with notes attached. The following links may have grammatical errors, but are a good source for quick browsing.
- British Shorthair (ie. the moggy): The most popular breed of cat in England, most Clan cats are this breed, or at least have some BS genetics and characteristics. These can come in almost any colour and pattern due to the mixture of genetics. HERE is a page about this breed.
- Bengal: The second most popular breed of cat in England, many of the 'spotted' Clan cats would have some Bengal genetics, as well as tabby cats. Perfect for RiverClan cats, as Bengal cats usually enjoy swimming and have the pelt for it. HERE is a page about this breed.
- Siamese: The third most popular breed of cat in England, most Clan cats with black faces or other Siamese traits will be a mix of Siamese and other breed. HERE is a page about this breed.
- Persian: The fourth most popular breed of cat in England, 'fluffy' Clan cats usually have some Persian heritage, but very few would survive due to standing out and the heat. HERE is a page about this breed.
- Ragdoll: The fifth most popular breed of cat in England, Clan cats with darker tails, or bicolour coats will usually have Ragdoll heritage. HERE is a page about this breed.
- Maine Coon: The sixth most popular breed of cat in England, shaggy or fluffy Clan cats will usually have some Maine Coon heritage. HERE is a page about this breed.
- Burmese: The seventh most popular breed of cat in England, this suits the look of the Warriors covers the most, and Burmese-American Shorthair crosses are likely the best appearance-wise for Clan cats. HERE is a page about this breed.
- Birman: The eighth most popular breed of cat in England, like the Siamese, would be ideal for cats with dark faces or tails, and would be a fluffier alternative. HERE is a page about this breed.
- Norwegian Forest: The ninth most popular breed of cat in England, fluffy or thick-haired cats would most likely have Norwegian Forest heritage, and these can come in any colour. HERE is a page about this breed.
Pelts
Colours
- White: the only true solid colour, white cats occasionally have a chance of being deaf. The white pelt gene is usually the cause of eye mutations as well. THIS is an example of a white British Shorthair cat, while THIS is an example of a white Persian cat.
- Black: most black cats have underlying tabby patterns. In the sunlight, black cats will usually shine a dark, rusty red-brown. THIS is an example of a black Burmese cat, while THIS is an example of a black Norwegian Forest cat.
- Red: otherwise known as orange or ginger. THIS is an example of a pale ginger tabby cat, while THIS is an example of a solid ginger cat, though you can see tabby markings in the face. Solid red cats are very difficult to breed. Most red cats are males, as it is usually a sex-linked gene to male cats.
- Blue: is actually a dilute black colour in cats. It is in fact blue-grey, which is why the cats are usually described as blue-grey. THIS is an example of a blue-grey cat, and as you can see the grey pelt is tinted blue in light. Certain breeds such as the Russian Blue, Korat, Nebelung and Chartreux breeds are associated with this colour. They will be rare, as these are usually purebred cats, and are not especially popular in England, where the territories are set, but blue British Shorthairs are fairly common and popular.
- Cream: is the dilute version of red. The light ginger example was a little too orange to be cream. THIS is an example of a cream cat, a purebred Vintarn Burmese at that, and THIS is an example of a cream British Shorthair cat, and THIS is an example of a cream Persian cat. blue-grey cat mating with a cream cat will usually produce dilute calico and tortoiseshell cats.
- Brown: are rarely solid-colour cats, but are usually associated with the Havana Brown cats. Some light brown cats are called 'lilac' cats for slight pink tints in their fur, while darker brown cats are called 'chocolate' cats. THIS is an example of a Havana Brown cat, while THIS is an example of a brown British Shorthair cat, in which you can see very light (or rather, dark) tabby markings in his fur.
- Cinnamon/Fawn: is a variety of light brown with a slightly red tinge. THIS is an example of a fawn-coloured Somali cat, while THIS is an example of a cinnamon-coloured Ragdoll cat. You can see the red tinges in both cats' pelts here.
The following are approved appearances for cats of the forest. These are general descriptions that are allowed. We want to be as realistic as possible in the appearance of the cats, Clans or not, but there will be occasional exceptions. We have tried to include all mutations as well. If you see a ♦ symbol, this means that it is a rare mutation.
Breeds
We have no regulations on breeds, but remember that the territories are set in England. Therefore, here are the top 10 breeds of cat in England kept as house pets, with notes attached. The following links may have grammatical errors, but are a good source for quick browsing.
- British Shorthair (ie. the moggy): The most popular breed of cat in England, most Clan cats are this breed, or at least have some BS genetics and characteristics. These can come in almost any colour and pattern due to the mixture of genetics. HERE is a page about this breed.
- Bengal: The second most popular breed of cat in England, many of the 'spotted' Clan cats would have some Bengal genetics, as well as tabby cats. Perfect for RiverClan cats, as Bengal cats usually enjoy swimming and have the pelt for it. HERE is a page about this breed.
- Siamese: The third most popular breed of cat in England, most Clan cats with black faces or other Siamese traits will be a mix of Siamese and other breed. HERE is a page about this breed.
- Persian: The fourth most popular breed of cat in England, 'fluffy' Clan cats usually have some Persian heritage, but very few would survive due to standing out and the heat. HERE is a page about this breed.
- Ragdoll: The fifth most popular breed of cat in England, Clan cats with darker tails, or bicolour coats will usually have Ragdoll heritage. HERE is a page about this breed.
- Maine Coon: The sixth most popular breed of cat in England, shaggy or fluffy Clan cats will usually have some Maine Coon heritage. HERE is a page about this breed.
- Burmese: The seventh most popular breed of cat in England, this suits the look of the Warriors covers the most, and Burmese-American Shorthair crosses are likely the best appearance-wise for Clan cats. HERE is a page about this breed.
- Birman: The eighth most popular breed of cat in England, like the Siamese, would be ideal for cats with dark faces or tails, and would be a fluffier alternative. HERE is a page about this breed.
- Norwegian Forest: The ninth most popular breed of cat in England, fluffy or thick-haired cats would most likely have Norwegian Forest heritage, and these can come in any colour. HERE is a page about this breed.
Pelts
Colours
- White: the only true solid colour, white cats occasionally have a chance of being deaf. The white pelt gene is usually the cause of eye mutations as well. THIS is an example of a white British Shorthair cat, while THIS is an example of a white Persian cat.
- Black: most black cats have underlying tabby patterns. In the sunlight, black cats will usually shine a dark, rusty red-brown. THIS is an example of a black Burmese cat, while THIS is an example of a black Norwegian Forest cat.
- Red: otherwise known as orange or ginger. THIS is an example of a pale ginger tabby cat, while THIS is an example of a solid ginger cat, though you can see tabby markings in the face. Solid red cats are very difficult to breed. Most red cats are males, as it is usually a sex-linked gene to male cats.
- Blue: is actually a dilute black colour in cats. It is in fact blue-grey, which is why the cats are usually described as blue-grey. THIS is an example of a blue-grey cat, and as you can see the grey pelt is tinted blue in light. Certain breeds such as the Russian Blue, Korat, Nebelung and Chartreux breeds are associated with this colour. They will be rare, as these are usually purebred cats, and are not especially popular in England, where the territories are set, but blue British Shorthairs are fairly common and popular.
- Cream: is the dilute version of red. The light ginger example was a little too orange to be cream. THIS is an example of a cream cat, a purebred Vintarn Burmese at that, and THIS is an example of a cream British Shorthair cat, and THIS is an example of a cream Persian cat. blue-grey cat mating with a cream cat will usually produce dilute calico and tortoiseshell cats.
- Brown: are rarely solid-colour cats, but are usually associated with the Havana Brown cats. Some light brown cats are called 'lilac' cats for slight pink tints in their fur, while darker brown cats are called 'chocolate' cats. THIS is an example of a Havana Brown cat, while THIS is an example of a brown British Shorthair cat, in which you can see very light (or rather, dark) tabby markings in his fur.
- Cinnamon/Fawn: is a variety of light brown with a slightly red tinge. THIS is an example of a fawn-coloured Somali cat, while THIS is an example of a cinnamon-coloured Ragdoll cat. You can see the red tinges in both cats' pelts here.
Thanks :) I'll work on it again soon. LOTS of research going on over here. My eyes have glazed over.
I think a few of them were just starting to be adopted and made right before she left. I don't know how many people got through though...


