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Sep 08, 2015 11:15AM
Good one! Mike Luckovich is one of my favorite editorial cartoonists. But I have many. So there you go.
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42 million dollars later, Gen. Lloyd Austin, commander of the U.S. Central Command, the top U.S. military commander for the Middle East admitted Wednesday that only "four or five" U.S. trained fighters remain on the battlefield in Syria. Not four hundred or four thousand, but four. Named Mo Larry, Kurly and Schlemiel, they are the most highly trained operatives when you figure that their training cost us ten million dollars for each soldier. The rest of this highly trained army is hot-footing-it to Germany, I suppose. Pathetic!
Another good cartoon;
That's perfect. I'm still surprised he chose not to poke fun of her hair.
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Yeah. I bet he could use a break from all that searching for the "real killer."
Hey it's a new age! 2020 will have a Kanye West/Kim Kardashian ticket versus Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson/Taylor Swift matchup, or maybe yet another Bush offspring will come popping out of the bushes.
Political limericks:Trump appears publicly without care,
unconcerned that people do stare
and whisper with awe
'what is that eyesore?
it surely cannot be his hair!'
Clinton as President will be,
according to many, and also to me
a disaster for all
for power is a tool
unsuitable for the power-hungry
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The Bush daughters will be old enough to run in 2020. Scary, isn't it?
My doctor has confirmed what my wife and daughter told me. I need a hearing aid. The question remaining is, should I get it now or wait until the elections are over?
That depends; do you plan to put on closed captioning? If so, I say get it now. It's easier to convince yourself something isn't QUITE as ludicrous and/or offensive when you don't have to see it in print.
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I happen to like the ludicrous and offensive. Most of our progress has been attributable to social irritants. Without them, we'd still be living in caves, which generally have excellent acoustics, making hearing aids unnecessary.
Ludicrous and offensive can be fun, as long as it isn't given the same weight as the serious and well researched.
Well done set of limericks, Joseph. Melki- I wonder if the Bush daughters are being groomed. But, in the end, I don't think they'd garner the same amount of support that Hillary
Jay-Bravo. I also thrive on the lunacy that is a political campaign. It has all the ingredients of a bestseller. It's like a national slugfest, if you can't take the punches, go home 'cause that job will wear you out! I don't care for the mud-slinging...Nah, I love the mud-slinging but you have to do it with some panache- make it original, entertaining.
IE:
As a Brit, the whole Trump thing is starting to leave me a little cold. It seems to be taking ages for the process to grind to a conclusion. On this side of the pond we have our own train-wreck elections where the gullible vote for the unelectable. And sometimes the unelectable somehow get elected.
But at least we have the decency to do it with a little bit more speed. Can't someone hit FF and skip to the good part at the end? If there is a good part at the end.
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At least around here the absurdity of the Repubs has been eclipsed by the gawdawful news about all the fires. And what does it say about our politics when we consider devastating fires have rescued us?
This is going to make me sound completely insane but I actually like Donald Trump.I like his debate responses.
But I'm not crazy enough to vote for him.
I don't think you're insane Scott. He may be coarse, he may offend many americans, but the man has voiced concerns that many other republicans/politicos have broached with an achingly familiar timidity. It's striking a chord across the land and although many in the media will try to make his following sound like a bunch of unsophisticated yahoos (admittedly there are many), his John Wayne, 'straight from the hip' style resonates with those who are tired of the Urkel style timidity of the administration we've had lately. Scrappy Fiorina is on his heels and I like her style.
I have a slightly-off question for this thread - where is the thin line between acceptable satire and unacceptable defamation? I'm a first-time writer of a comedy, and this is often a subject of worry for me. Any thoughts? At which point does someone have grounds for a defamation lawsuit?
Scott wrote: "This is going to make me sound completely insane but I actually like Donald Trump.I like his debate responses.
But I'm not crazy enough to vote for him."
Scott wrote: "This is going to make me sound completely insane but I actually like Donald Trump.
I like his debate responses.
But I'm not crazy enough to vote for him."
Giving Trump his due,he's the only Repub. who admits taxes will have to be raised.
Ana wrote: "I have a slightly-off question for this thread - where is the thin line between acceptable satire and unacceptable defamation? I'm a first-time writer of a comedy, and this is often a subject of wo..."Best to ask an attorney--but, it's my understanding that public figures are fair game for almost anything if it's satire or comedy. The law views private individuals differently.
On the other hand, unless you have a large following,a lawsuit may do more damage to the person filing than if they ignored you. I've heard of unknown writers who ended up on the NY Times best seller list because of the publicity from a lawsuit.
Thank you, Gary! I have not thought of it, but you're right - these days any publicity is good publicity.
Ana wrote: "I have a slightly-off question for this thread - where is the thin line between acceptable satire and unacceptable defamation? ..."I am not a lawyer, but I can say that I've looked into this quite a bit. Generally, you can be sued by anyone for anything, but you're likely to win if what you say is true, or doesn't defame anyone/lower their market value/cause them distress, or is clearly satire of a public figure. In my novel The Urban Legion, where I am creating all sorts of sinister but funny conspiracies, I avoid naming any actual company or organization that could possibly take offense. I also note that none of the book is true in the disclaimer, e.g. "To the author's best knowledge, there is no Trail Boys organization, and Elite Trail Boy candidates do not study Sun Tzu's The Art of War in preparation for their Military Strategy skill patch." I mean, I make Trail Boys out to be Ninja warrior heroes, but you never know if people want that image.
Thank you, Dave! What I don't understand, is how can South Park aggressively attack celebrities and get away with it, then others can and do get sued? My book is a completely fabricated fiction with a disclaimer, too. I also hope that in this day and age any publicity is good publicity...
Hi again, Dave,Just saw a preview of your book on Amazon - it looks terrific! Who did your formatting for Kindle? I'm guessing something fancier than Word was used?
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Note up front, this is my opinion, not a legal opinion. If you need a legal opinion, consult ye olde attorney.
Famous people are looked at a little differently since they choose to be in the public eye, and in some cases, live their lives pretty much in public. The term 'publicity slut' was not fabricated without cause.
You can lampoon nearly anyone's public persona, ala South Park, if your material is obviously intended to be comic, especially if what your saying is obviously true (even a little bit) and\or an obvious exaggeration. Note, South Park bills itself as a comedy, is listed in the TV Guide as a comedy, Googles as a comedy, etc. and if they say a famous actress has a butt the size of Montana, she probably does. --A smattering of truth, heavily exaggerated for obvious comic purposes.
However, when your material is more of an attack than a joke, or intrudes into someone's personal life, problems can arise very quickly.
How your material will be interpreted by the public is more often than not pretty clear cut. For example, can you offer the actress who wore a nearly-nothing dress to the Academy Awards a handkerchief, so that she has enough material to make next years dress. --Obvious joke.
Can you say that, wearing that dress, she imagined she had inflated breasts, but it was just inflated ego. --No, you probably shouldn't. This is more likely to be interpreted as an attack because it's not obviously comedy. I'm sure it is to some people, but not generally.
If you have any doubt as to whether your material will be interpreted as comedy or an attack, rewrite the joke or consult a lawyer.
The rewrite is cheaper.
Ana wrote: "Hi again, Dave,Just saw a preview of your book on Amazon - it looks terrific! Who did your formatting for Kindle? I'm guessing something fancier than Word was used?"
Hi Ana,
Actually it was Word 2003. We followed the guidelines from Kindle for saving it as html but there were issues (with indents, I think) we could not get around. So we tried just sending the word doc, and that came out great. Note, we started with very specific style-base formatting for the print version, using absolutely no tabs or blank lines, and carefully matched font sizes with pre and post paragraph point sizes so that everything was consistent, with left and right pages lining up line for line, even when we had chapter headings taking up space or when skipping across POV breaks. Book 2 of the Urban Legion trilogy should be much easier, since we've got that all figured out before the writing.
Hi, Dave,I've used Word 2010 and everything looks good, except the page breaks don't work. It looks like each one of your chapters start on new page in the preview, but mine just keep going as one slab of text.
I've contacted Kindle support, but they told me "oh, it just doesn't work in "look inside", but people will see your page breaks on Kindle". I don't have Kindle, so can't check. Frustrating...
Mystery solved! I was looking at your PRINT book preview. Your Kindle one looks similar to mine. Better get that print copy done! Yours does look great, even on the second look :-)
Glad you were able to get some answers, Ana. As to your earlier question-"where is the thin line between acceptable satire and unacceptable defamation?" If it's a work of fiction there should be no problem, but I'll also add- ask an attorney.From a graphics standpoint- I haven't heard of any litigation between cartoonists and celebrities, and I've seen some very derogatory cartoons. Cartoonists can be shot, however, for drawing a picture of Mohammed. So I wouldn't consider satirizing him either... just in case you had any thoughts of it.
Getting back to the political satire;
When people shoot others, they always have a good excuse, but spirituality has nothing to do with it.
I think they sometimes are spiritually motivated. The damn dog next door keeps asking me to shoot it and it's owner!
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Bullets can make you hole-y.
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Am I being too mean and heartless with this cartoon?
Or just plain- not funny?
I'd appreciate any honest critiques.
From:
Conservatives, Flaming Conservatives,
Independents, Waffling Independents,
Liberals, Blazing Liberals.
Thanks.
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LOL. Thousands of papists? I'll bet it's more like millions!
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And I'm glad to see we celebrated his departure by executing someone.
Some things never change.
I think your caption is perfect Andre. And then Joel's comment is perfect for the first press release by the Donald post-Pope. ~sigh~ I'm not sure if I'm ready for things to be back to normal.
I still find it hard to accept that there's some republicans with a 1% support base still in the running and that we'll have another thirteen months of political drama. Thanks for your thoughts one and all!
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Not sure where this fits, but I bring tidings of great sadness and great joy. Let's do the good news first. I stumbled across the quite wonderfully named Major Dickie Head:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8014318...
You can't blame his parents. I imagine that Mr and Mrs Head had no idea that there was smut value to be gained from calling their son Richard. It is his own judgement that we have to question. When Rich, Richie or Ricky are available it takes a brave man to opt for Dickie.
But then comes the crashing disappointment. He has only gone and got himself promoted to Colonel:
http://www.thefloodexpo.co.uk/speaker...
And somehow Colonel Dickie Head doesn't have the same comedy value as Major Dickie Head.
I known, I know, I'm taking a huge risk by posting this. He's a soldier which probably means that he can kill me with a bent pin. And I bet he's heard it all before. His name might even have helped to make him tough in a "Boy named Sue" sort of way.
So if I wind up murdered in the next few days, you'll all know who to go looking for.
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