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message 152: by Renee (last edited Mar 07, 2014 03:01PM) (new)

Renee (reneeconoulty) | 3309 comments So if a team is "hit" 2 times, can they earn 2 sloops or is there a limit of 1? To bank a book, it needs to be paired with another, but only one of them is banked? So if 3 people read the same genre, only 1 would be banked, but it could be used for a different genre in the future to the one it was banked for?


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments CONSIDER YOUR STRATEGY:

CassieV wrote: "Since we had two teams firing on us, do we get two potential sloops or is it just one per round?"

A team may earn one SLOOP per firing. You have been fired on twice this first week; you could potentially earn two SLOOPs.

Next week you will be fired upon three times; you could earn three.

The week after that, you will be fired upon four times; you could earn four.

The last week, you will be fired upon five times; you could earn five.


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments Renee wrote: "So if a team is "hit" 2 times, can they earn 2 sloops or is there a limit of 1?"

A team may earn two SLOOPS this week, since they were fired upon twice.

Renee wrote: "To bank a book, it needs to be paired with another, but only one of them is banked?"

Yes, the book/genre is banked. You may elect to change the book/genre later, as long as whatever books you pair-up together match and are 'tagged' as that genre.

Renee wrote: "So if 3 people read the same genre, only 1 would be banked, but it could be used for a different genre in the future to the one it was baked for?"

Correct. With the new rule about carrying over to another week, you may pair up that third with another book/genre read later - as long as it is read by ANOTHER member.


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Renee (reneeconoulty) | 3309 comments NBRC Book Ninja wrote: "Correct. With the new rule about carrying over to another week, you may pair up that third with another book/genre read later - as long as it is read by ANOTHER member. "

So you cant salvo yourself over two weeks, you still need to pair up with another of your team members. Thank's for clarifying, I hadn't thought of that one yet.


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments Renee wrote: "So you cant salvo yourself over two weeks, you still need to pair up with another of your team members. Thank's for clarifying, I hadn't thought of that one yet."

Correct. If you (Renee) read a Horror book one week, you (Renee) couldn't read another the next week to get a SALVO. Someone else on your team would have to read a Horror book; or, they could do it the third week, too. Then, if you get hit the forth week, you all are already protected.


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments Whoa. What is with GRs? Sarah, Vicky, and Pigletto's posts just popped in? That is really, really weird.


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments Vicky, you are correct in Post #158.

Strategy wise, P7 Reader's Choice/Potential Salvo for Next Round might want to read a book 'tagged' with more than one genre.


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments Pigletto wrote: "I think perhaps people had been wondering like me if we were able to earn 5 sloops as follows..."

Ah. I see...but, no.


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments Smiley face in Post #160 was for Eni.


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Karla Can two people read the same book and count them for the same genre?


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments Karla wrote: "Can two people read the same book and count them for the same genre?"

Certainly.


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Karla NBRC Book Ninja wrote: "Karla wrote: "Can two people read the same book and count them for the same genre?"

Certainly."


Great, thanks!


message 164: by Eni (last edited Mar 07, 2014 03:40PM) (new)

Eni | 2349 comments wooohooo smiley face! =D

btw i have a question. Not sure if this was asked before, but we can withdraw a book/genre from the bank to defend a hit. Can we also, in that round, use it as a part of a sloop?

Ex: Team A gets fired upon on square X - Fiction
Team A had a Fiction book banked, and withdraws that to defend the hit.
Member 3 from Team A reads a Fiction book and gets a sloop.


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Sarah | 3273 comments Pigletto wrote: "I think perhaps people had been wondering like me if we were able to earn 5 sloops as follows:

First Shot - A reads genre to defend, B reads same genre for a sloop, C reads the same genre for 2nd ..."


Exactly what I was initially thinking but with the rule change this is no longer correct. I'll shut up now.


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments To an Undisclosed Team's Secret Group:

Please see the discussion in the Rules thread. My apologies for the confusion.

Those of you not deflecting the hit may NOT all read Romance-Historical this week and earn SLOOPs on all of them. Only one SLOOP per firing. [So, highest possible number of SLOOPs this week = two.]

However, since you have one Reader's Choice, if the person deflecting the hit elects to read Romance-Historical (therefore making that square's genre RH), then you may have another person read RH and earn a second SLOOP.

Again, I'm terribly sorry for the confusion.


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments Eni wrote: "...but we can withdraw a book/genre from the bank to defend a hit. Can we also, in that round, use it as a part of a sloop?"

Well, I hadn't thought of that one...LOL! but...

Yes, if you withdraw it from your bank to deflect a hit in a future week, then it is eligible for a SLOOP at that time.

Great question.


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Sarah | 3273 comments And what if it is your banked book used for a hit later, at that time can you choose to read for the sloop on your own banked book or would another team member have to be the one to do it.


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Eni | 2349 comments ok. Thanks Book Ninja! =D


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments Sarah wrote: "And what if it is your banked book used for a hit later, at that time can you choose to read for the sloop on your own banked book or would another team member have to be the one to do it."

Wait, Eni & Sarah. I think I'm getting confused on semantics here.

Are you talking a 'banked' book/genre that was only read by one person to be paired up at a later date? Then the answer to Eni's question is no. If you are talking about a 'banked' book/genre that was read by two members (and is therefore a SALVO), then yes, it may be withdrawn from the bank to deflect a hit.... And a SLOOP may be used on it.

To avoid compounding the confusion (Ooops! Way too late for that), then the answer to Sarah's question is yes, as it has already become a SALVO. If a team member was part of it becoming a SALVO, they may still read the additional book for a SLOOP.

Phew! Did I get that right? Did it make sense?


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Sarah | 3273 comments I understand. Thanks


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message 173: by Lianna (last edited Mar 07, 2014 04:50PM) (new)

Lianna (liannalives) | 5 comments Can Banked books from the previous week be used to defend your ship? Or only as a Salvo partner?

edit: Nevermind! I think I understand. If you have a book/genre banked by one person waiting for a mate so as to become a Salvo, it cannot defend your ship alone. Once it is in the bank all it can do is wait for a partner so as to become a Salvo, and then defend your ship. The lonely book however, can only wait for a partner in the bank for 1 week.
yes?


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments All correct, Lianna, except the lonely book may remain in the bank - waiting for a partner - until the last week.


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Eni | 2349 comments yeah Book Ninja it made sense! Thanks!

Although.. just to clarify... banked sloops can still be used to defend a hit on another week right? Or are they just banked for points?


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments Eni wrote: "Although.. just to clarify... banked sloops can still be used to defend a hit on another week right? Or are they just banked for points?"

SLOOPs that have been 'banked' may be used to deflect a 'hit.'

Really, it is just a matter of moving the points from one column to another. Right?


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Eni | 2349 comments true. Alright i'm all question out =p Thanks Book Ninja! ^_^


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Sarah | 3273 comments Ah oh - another clarification - if your banked sloop is used to defend a hit can you sloop on that just like if it had been the Salvo as previously discussed.


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Vicky (librovert) | 3137 comments Thanks for all the clarifications! I have only one more (*fingers crossed*) question in regards to the following:

NBRC Book Ninja wrote: "A team may earn one SLOOP per firing. You have been fired on twice this first week; you could potentially earn two SLOOPs.

Next week you will be fired upon three times; you could earn three.

The week after that, you will be fired upon four times; you could earn four.

The last week, you will be fired upon five times; you could earn five."


If we can only read one book per person, is this necessarily correct? If we are fired on 5 times we need 5 players to defend. This only leaves 2 players open for potential sloops?


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Sarah | 3273 comments One more question - can you use a sloop or salvo on a fired on square that is miss and is team's choice for genre or do you have to read a new book.


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments Sarah wrote: "Ah oh - another clarification - if your banked sloop is used to defend a hit can you sloop on that just like if it had been the Salvo as previously discussed."

Yes.


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments Vicky wrote: "If we can only read one book per person, is this necessarily correct? If we are fired on 5 times we need 5 players to defend. This only leaves 2 players open for potential sloops?"

Maybe, if you've earned enough SALVOs use those to defend yourselves... Don't ask me what the exact amount would be by the end, if you did this and never had a direct hit.

But now we're talking strategy.


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments Sarah wrote: "One more question - can you use a sloop or salvo on a fired on square that is miss and is team's choice for genre or do you have to read a new book."

Ah! Now you're talking strategy again. Sure, if you want.


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments T, what if a team use their 'banked' SLOOP or SALVO on a fired on square, freeing up their members to make SLOOPs and SALVOs?


Turtlecollector Dennis | 1164 comments Sorry, deleted my post as soon as I reloaded page and saw your response. Didn't think you had time to see it yet.


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments Ah. I was hoping you'd do the math, T. LOL! ☺


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments **chuckles**


Turtlecollector Dennis | 1164 comments I want a little clarification on my own post here.

When converting the genre of a banked salvo, do both books have to qualify for the genre?

For example, our team reads two books that are S to bank a salvo. Then, next week we are hit on a square that requires MH. One of the books that made up the salvo also qualifies for this, but the other one doesn't. Can we still convert to MH to defend the hit?


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Lindy (lindylee) I think most people dont' tag books, and they should move it into the review area


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NBRC Book Ninja | 1025 comments Turtlecollector, I'll use an example, okay?

Let's say in Week 1 you read Unbroken: A World War II Story of Survival, Resilience, and Redemption, which works for BA, H, CBS, and NF (to name just a few). Ester decides to read a BA book along with you to make a SALVO and chooses Steve Jobs, which works for BA, CO, and NF (just to name a few). You choose to 'bank' it as BA.

Later, say Week 2, Kimberly wants to read Steve Jobs because she heard it was so good. At this time your team may take Kimberly's Steve Jobs and put it with Ester's to make a SALVO. [No, it doesn't have to be the same book.] In this case, you may use your (Turtlecollector's) Unbroken: A World War II Story of Survival, Resilience, and Redemption to pair up with...say, ~Leslie~'s Twelve Years a Slave to still reserve a SALVO for, say, CBS.

Does that answer your question?


Turtlecollector Dennis | 1164 comments Not really. Here is more what I was thinking:

Let's pretend in Week 1, I read Unbroken: A World War II Story of Survival, Resilience, and Redemption which only works for BA, H, CBS, NF(although in real life it fits more). Esther reads Steve Jobs which only works for BA, CO, NF(again, works for more in real life). We 'bank' it as BA

In week 2, we are hit on square H. What are the genres we can convert it to? Only BA or NF since those are in both books? Or can we convert the salvo to CO or H, which are only in one of the books?

But now your post brought up another question:
If you have banked more than one salvo, you can switch books around into different pairs according to genre?


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments LOL! You know, this is getting way, way too complicated, right?

Turtlecollector wrote: "What are the genres we can convert it to? Only BA or NF since those are in both books? Or can we convert the salvo to CO or H, which are only in one of the books?"

You may convert the SALVO only to genres for which the books qualify.

Turtlecollector wrote: "If you have banked more than one salvo, you can switch books around into different pairs according to genre?"

Yes, we'll allow this. However, remember SALVOs must go into the bank as a pair. (That 1/2 SALVO - one 'eftover' book we talked about before in Post #111 - isn't really 'banked' until it is paired up with another book of the same genre.)

Sort of like a guy who goes to a party with one gal, but goes home with another, for a crude analogy.


message 194: by Turtlecollector Dennis (last edited Mar 07, 2014 09:57PM) (new)

Turtlecollector Dennis | 1164 comments My second question was all your fault. I hadn't even considered that until your example in Week 2 of the previous post.

Just think of it this way, if you do another round, there are ways to streamline it and make it a bit less complicated. I can send you a PM if you haven't figured out how yet. (think no conversions) :)

I always come up with the fun questions after it starts when I can see how things are actually working out.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 15159 comments Yes. A few of us should have had a practice run first. Although, it was reviewed by several people. There is no way we could have come up with all these questions.


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Sarah | 3273 comments I am confused again - the rules clearly state two people have to read a book to get a salvo, but only one will count, now are you saying both can count? This is changing the rules again. Now you are saying both books used to make a salvo can now later be used to make two salvos later?


message 197: by Sarah (last edited Mar 07, 2014 10:52PM) (new)

Sarah | 3273 comments Turtlecollector wrote: "I want a little clarification on my own post here.

When converting the genre of a banked salvo, do both books have to qualify for the genre?

For example, our team reads two books that are S to ba..."


I was under the impression that yes this statement was correct. Whatever book is chosen to represent the Salvo, being only one of the two to get the salvo, that book could be used later to deflect a hit in another genre if it was another genre represented by the book chosen for the Salvo, which I think is what you are saying. But only one of the books could be chosen, based on the rules, not both, which to me is contradicting what Ninja just said?


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"SALVO: Another way to safe-guard from a future attack is if two team members want to read the same genre (different than the “fired on” genre) in the same week and “bank” this genre as read. Although read by two team members, it will only be “banked” once."

I took this to mean that you bank both books but as a pair that must be used together as it has been confirmed that both books must have the chosen genre in order for the salvo to be used to defend a hit, etc for that genre.

For example, it would be:

Team A are using their salvo pairing of Unbroken: A World War II Story of Survival, Resilience, and Redemption and Steve Jobs to defend the hit on non-fiction.


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NBRC Book Ninja wrote: "Turtlecollector, I'll use an example, okay?

Let's say in Week 1 you read Unbroken: A World War II Story of Survival, Resilience, and Redemption, which works for BA, H, CBS, and NF (..."


I think being able to swap around books in salvo pairings or using these books separately to make new pairings with books read that week makes things needlessly complicated. I took it from everything that had been said so far that the 2 books were a pair and needed to be used as a pair as per my example above. Now you're saying that the books can be separated to help make up new pairs?

If so I have further questions. Do both new pairings have to be read in the same week? Or could you (using your example) read the 2 Steve Jobs books 1 week and the Unbroken: A World War II Story of Survival, Resilience, and Redemption & Twelve Years a Slave pairing another week?

Say, you don't read both pairings in the same week but you report the new pairing you did read at the end of the week (i.e. Team A reports that 2 members read Steve Jobs to defend non-fiction). Would that be an acceptable defence? Would the other book remain in the bank to be paired up later? Or would the team lose that book?

If it's not an acceptable defence what would happen other than the team having to take a hit? Would the salvo pairing (that the team tried to use) still remain in the bank for future use or would the team have lost the right to use this salvo?


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Sarah | 3273 comments Yeah I am still waiting for clarification. I don't think people should be able to take their two books from one salvo and later separate them to each pair up with another book to make two salvos. I was under the impression that a banked salvo could be used deflect only one hit. Then another sloop could be made with the hit genre that was deflected.


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