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Yay! Another one I know and love. I studied this last year. Even if my tutors liked to focus on the creepy bits.


I don't know... 1865 might be the year she died so I think you may be right. :(


Well, it is one of the "nonsense" books which came in with the nonsense poetry (Carroll, Lear, etc). In that sense, it was ground-breaking.

Well, it is one of the "nonsense" books which came in with the nonsense poetry (Carrol..."
That's true, but I have read parts and just can't bring myself to read the whole book. We did a stage version at school, which was great fun.
Amber wrote: "I've never read this book but have seen the Disney animated film and liked it."
Never judge a book by a Disney adaptation: they're even less reliable tha film adaptation in general. They may be, and generally are, really nice films, but never too close to the original book.
This said I have to admit that I didn't love this book, even if I do understand it is a great one. Too many nonsense, limeriks, too truly english to understand it thruoughout from a "foreigner" point of view...
Never judge a book by a Disney adaptation: they're even less reliable tha film adaptation in general. They may be, and generally are, really nice films, but never too close to the original book.
This said I have to admit that I didn't love this book, even if I do understand it is a great one. Too many nonsense, limeriks, too truly english to understand it thruoughout from a "foreigner" point of view...

Perhaps the book to use if one wants to understand it more easily is 'The Annotated Alice', written by a brilliant American, Martin Gardner.
As the blurb of the 2001 Peguin paperback says: 'For nearly half a century, Gardner has reigned supreme as the eccentric and engrossing commentary on manifold conundrums offered by Carroll's text.'
Very familiar with the Disney cartoon, I read an abridged version of this book when I was quite young. The original, however, is still to be read. I have a beautiful illustrated copy just waiting to be taken down from my Keepers Shelf.
From the article:
"On 4 July 1862, a shy young Oxford mathematics don with a taste for puzzles and whimsy named Charles Dodgson rowed the three daughters of Henry Liddell, dean of Christ Church, five miles up the Thames to Godstow. On the way, to entertain his passengers, who included a 10-year-old named Alice, with whom he was strangely infatuated, Dodgson began to improvise the "Adventures Under Ground" of a bored young girl, also named Alice. Wordplay, logical conundrums, parody and riddles: Dodgson surpassed himself, and the girls were enchanted by the nonsense dreamworld he conjured up. The weather for this trip was reportedly "overcast", but those on board would remember it as "a golden afternoon".
This well-known story marks the beginning of perhaps the greatest, possibly most influential, and certainly the most world-famous Victorian English fiction, a book that hovers between a nonsense tale and an elaborate in-joke. Just three years later, extended, revised, and retitled Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, now credited to a pseudonymous Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland (its popular title) was about to become the publishing sensation of Christmas 1865. It is said that among the first avid readers of Alice were Queen Victoria and the young Oscar Wilde. A second volume about Alice (Through the Looking-Glass) followed in 1871. Together these two short books (Wonderland is barely 28,000 words long) became two of the most quoted and best-loved volumes in the English canon."
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