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Beside's it's better than the "National Electrical Code 2008 (National Fire Protection Association National Electrical Code)" !! LOL :D
Rose,
You might find the National Electric Code easier to understand. But I haven't read the 2008 updates, so I might be wrong.
You might find the National Electric Code easier to understand. But I haven't read the 2008 updates, so I might be wrong.
Nice work bringing people into the fold, Megha.
Good to have you aboard Rose and Shannon (you sound like an experienced Pynchophile, Shannon. How many times have you dipped into Gravity's Rainbow?)
Good to have you aboard Rose and Shannon (you sound like an experienced Pynchophile, Shannon. How many times have you dipped into Gravity's Rainbow?)

Welcome Shannon. Nice to see you here. :)
Welcome, Shannon.
I prowled over to your profile; and saw that you've read most of what Pynchon has written.
I'm impressed.
Over the many years I've purchased most all of his works; but read only V. and The Crying of Lot 49 completely to the end.
My attempts to dive into Mason & Dixon and Against the Day have always ultimately lured me to return to "Gravity's Rainbow", which I've only ever gotten about 40% thru, at best.
So, for me, "Gravity's Rainbow" has been this personal milestone (millstone?) of sorts.
Always love what I've read--the book is amazing. But chasing down references to earlier parts of the book (or earlier books), assembling puzzles left to entangle the reader, and other enigmas--have always ensnared this reader. I am left babbling in the road incoherently.
My hope is that a dedicated group of readers will blindly, and not so blindly lead one another thru this extraordinary labyrinth.
I've also found that this book is anything but a linear read. I've never been able to go from page 1 numerically through the book. It seems necessary to continually return to earlier portions to re-read and find what was missed the first time. I love it! But a complete reading to the end becomes a challenge, to say the least.
I think our Spoilers threads are going to be a definite challenge.
I prowled over to your profile; and saw that you've read most of what Pynchon has written.
I'm impressed.
Over the many years I've purchased most all of his works; but read only V. and The Crying of Lot 49 completely to the end.
My attempts to dive into Mason & Dixon and Against the Day have always ultimately lured me to return to "Gravity's Rainbow", which I've only ever gotten about 40% thru, at best.
So, for me, "Gravity's Rainbow" has been this personal milestone (millstone?) of sorts.
Always love what I've read--the book is amazing. But chasing down references to earlier parts of the book (or earlier books), assembling puzzles left to entangle the reader, and other enigmas--have always ensnared this reader. I am left babbling in the road incoherently.
My hope is that a dedicated group of readers will blindly, and not so blindly lead one another thru this extraordinary labyrinth.
I've also found that this book is anything but a linear read. I've never been able to go from page 1 numerically through the book. It seems necessary to continually return to earlier portions to re-read and find what was missed the first time. I love it! But a complete reading to the end becomes a challenge, to say the least.
I think our Spoilers threads are going to be a definite challenge.
Rose wrote: I'm a virgin. Be gentle.
We'll be gentle, Rose. But we can't guarantee Pynchon's behavior. The guy's a psychopath.
We'll be gentle, Rose. But we can't guarantee Pynchon's behavior. The guy's a psychopath.

One of the GR member reviews suggested to not get too caught up and just go with the flow of the story.
Mosca wrote: "WI've also found that this book is anything but a linear read. I've never been able to go from page 1 numerically through the book. It seems necessary to continually return to earlier portions to re-read and find what was missed the first time. I love it! But a complete reading to the end becomes a challenge, to say the least..."
That's my experience too, Mosca. I have even toyed with the idea (when I finally finished it) of going back and reading it backwards. I wonder what that would be like?
That's my experience too, Mosca. I have even toyed with the idea (when I finally finished it) of going back and reading it backwards. I wonder what that would be like?
Brad wrote:
I wonder what that would be like?
We're counting on you, Brad, to let us know ;)
But this need to go back and forth is the main reason I finally, a few years ago, spent the extra bucks needed to buy an old vintage hardback version (those are the only type of hardback available).
I had already destroyed more than three paperback versions from the constant, rib-cracking abuse needed to shuffle in both directions thru this book.
I think I would have preferred a hardback in less pristine condition. Now I'm afraid to mark in this one.
But I feel that the inevitably non-linear nature of this book is part of its genius.
I wonder what that would be like?
We're counting on you, Brad, to let us know ;)
But this need to go back and forth is the main reason I finally, a few years ago, spent the extra bucks needed to buy an old vintage hardback version (those are the only type of hardback available).
I had already destroyed more than three paperback versions from the constant, rib-cracking abuse needed to shuffle in both directions thru this book.
I think I would have preferred a hardback in less pristine condition. Now I'm afraid to mark in this one.
But I feel that the inevitably non-linear nature of this book is part of its genius.

We're counting on you, Brad, to let us know ;)
It does sound pretty interesting actually. I hope someone tries it out and lets us know.

I'm about halfway through my first time! It is a wonderful challenge so far. I've had to stop and read other novels in between, just to give my brain a rest. Does anyone else do this?
I do that too. I usually pick dross so that I can just relax. Some poor fantasy of the Salvatore persuasion usually works well for me.
Hi, Hunter, glad to see you.
Me, too, It's the only way I've kept reading the book. Pynchon's books are, also, the books (and part of books) that I re-read the most.
The prose is so dense; it's the only way I know how.
Me, too, It's the only way I've kept reading the book. Pynchon's books are, also, the books (and part of books) that I re-read the most.
The prose is so dense; it's the only way I know how.

Even I am sure I will be reading something light on the side, when I want to read something just to relax without concentrating too much.
I started off a bit slow, but by now I am fairly engrossed in 'Gravity's Rainbow'. Though I haven't yet reached a point where I have to keep flipping pages back and forth.
Shannon wrote: "Brad wrote: "Nice work bringing people into the fold, Megha.
Good to have you aboard Rose and Shannon (you sound like an experienced Pynchophile, Shannon. How many times have you dipped into Grav..."
You are going to be an awesome person to have around then, Shannon.
Good to have you aboard Rose and Shannon (you sound like an experienced Pynchophile, Shannon. How many times have you dipped into Grav..."
You are going to be an awesome person to have around then, Shannon.

So this book was sitting on myself and performing the literary equivalent of burning a hole in my pocket: I just had to begin despite simultaneously wanting to put it off until the time was right. I'm only 40 pages in, but the time appears to be right--really enjoying it so far.

I'm currently reading GR for the second time. It'd been four years since I last immersed myself in the land of Pynchon, so I figured this was a good time to get back into it.

I'm currently reading GR for the second time. It'd been four years since I last immersed myself in the land of Pynchon, so I figured this was a good time to get back into it."
Yes!

I'm currently reading GR for the second time. It'd been four years since I last immersed myself in the land of Pynchon, so I figured this was a good time to get back into it."
< what Bram just said >

Finished GR a little over a month ago on the fifth or sixth attempt over the past few years. Didn't hate it or love it but enough of it has stuck with me and periodically raised its head over the past six weeks that I may have to give it a re-read in a few months. Just curious if anyone has read anything else by Pynchon and, if so, if that helped or hindered with appreciation for GR.
Dan,
My God. There are two New Mexican's in this Group. Bienvenidos, Ese!
To answer your question, I've read The Crying of Lot 49 and V.
V. is Pynchon's first book. There are a some characters in V that continue into Gravity's Rainbow; and some readers might say that V is an essential first read prior to GR. But that is, of course, each reader's choice. You might want to read V now; it is not so abstruse as GR, and there is a lot of common territory.
The Crying of Lot 49 is Pynchon's second book; and I've read a few comments of his own that indicate it is a work of his that he has little respect for. I enjoyed the book; but I recommend it only to Pynchon newbies as an easy first read to become accustomed to his world.
My God. There are two New Mexican's in this Group. Bienvenidos, Ese!
To answer your question, I've read The Crying of Lot 49 and V.
V. is Pynchon's first book. There are a some characters in V that continue into Gravity's Rainbow; and some readers might say that V is an essential first read prior to GR. But that is, of course, each reader's choice. You might want to read V now; it is not so abstruse as GR, and there is a lot of common territory.
The Crying of Lot 49 is Pynchon's second book; and I've read a few comments of his own that indicate it is a work of his that he has little respect for. I enjoyed the book; but I recommend it only to Pynchon newbies as an easy first read to become accustomed to his world.


Pynchon isn't foremost on my agenda, but I think the opportunity to read Gravities Rainbow and discuss it with you all may be too good to pass up.
Juilanna,
Glad you are here. I know that you will bring a valuable perspective to this book; and I am eager to hear your reactions.
It looks like that we are becoming a small but diverse group.
There are some here who've read the book (and other Pynchon books) completely; but who remain sufficiently interested to want to discuss it with others. There's folks, like me, still trying to finish it after many tries. And there are many diving in for the first time. This book appears to be attracting a pretty sharp group (myself excluded).
My hope is that we can eventually grow into some specific discussions about a number of the book's characeristics as we all absorb more of it. Most of us are still absorbing.
At a minimum, this will get some of us to finally finish reading this. That, in itself, will be an accomplishment.
Once again, welcome.
Glad you are here. I know that you will bring a valuable perspective to this book; and I am eager to hear your reactions.
It looks like that we are becoming a small but diverse group.
There are some here who've read the book (and other Pynchon books) completely; but who remain sufficiently interested to want to discuss it with others. There's folks, like me, still trying to finish it after many tries. And there are many diving in for the first time. This book appears to be attracting a pretty sharp group (myself excluded).
My hope is that we can eventually grow into some specific discussions about a number of the book's characeristics as we all absorb more of it. Most of us are still absorbing.
At a minimum, this will get some of us to finally finish reading this. That, in itself, will be an accomplishment.
Once again, welcome.

I had toyed with jumping right back down the rabbit hole but i think my mind needs a break to take in all that happens in the book.
Excellent. Two new members very close to completion.
Welcome, Daniel and Trevor. I'm hoping to see you both in the discussions once a good number of us finish this book so we can begin to assemble, dissassemble, and reassemble puzzle pieces together.
Having only recently finished the book, I'm still digesting. But I know there will be observations and questions as we continue.
Again, welcome.
Welcome, Daniel and Trevor. I'm hoping to see you both in the discussions once a good number of us finish this book so we can begin to assemble, dissassemble, and reassemble puzzle pieces together.
Having only recently finished the book, I'm still digesting. But I know there will be observations and questions as we continue.
Again, welcome.

Just got GR in the mail a few weeks ago as a gift from a friend who wanted to challenge me lol. I barely got through the first few chapters before thinking I'd give up. I'm so glad this group exists I will be looking forward to your guidance :P

Does that inadvertently make me doomed? Perhaps i'm biting off more than I can chew by delving into his most difficult work.
No, you're not doomed, Andrea. You got the book free in the mail!
But many people get tangled in Pynchon's world and give up in the confusion.
I, myself, started with Gravity's Rainbow. I was both entralled and excited by his writing. But I also got bogged down. So, I read The Crying of Lot 49. This is a much shorter and more accessible book. I really enjoyed it.
Then I learned that V. and Gravity's Rainbow share some common characters and plot lines, so I read V next. V. is also an exceptional book and worth the time.
Then I returned to Gravity's Rainbow and was able to follow much more of what was going on.
This process worked for me. Many in this group just read right through it the first time. I'm not one of them.
But I am not sorry that I completed Gravity's Rainbow(about three weeks ago). I really enjoyed it; and it's one of the best books I've read.
When I next want a Pynchon fix, I will read Mason & Dixon, probably sooner than later.
Welcome to the world of Pynchon, Andrea. And thank your friend.
But many people get tangled in Pynchon's world and give up in the confusion.
I, myself, started with Gravity's Rainbow. I was both entralled and excited by his writing. But I also got bogged down. So, I read The Crying of Lot 49. This is a much shorter and more accessible book. I really enjoyed it.
Then I learned that V. and Gravity's Rainbow share some common characters and plot lines, so I read V next. V. is also an exceptional book and worth the time.
Then I returned to Gravity's Rainbow and was able to follow much more of what was going on.
This process worked for me. Many in this group just read right through it the first time. I'm not one of them.
But I am not sorry that I completed Gravity's Rainbow(about three weeks ago). I really enjoyed it; and it's one of the best books I've read.
When I next want a Pynchon fix, I will read Mason & Dixon, probably sooner than later.
Welcome to the world of Pynchon, Andrea. And thank your friend.

just joined group. first time through GR and almost done section one. will be nice to have people to help me through the rest.
Jay,
Welcome!
If you've made it through Section One, first time, then you probably have the momentum to get through the rest.
You've probably already noticed that the discussion threads are organized by Sections. So that's the place to go for help.
Good to have you.
Welcome!
If you've made it through Section One, first time, then you probably have the momentum to get through the rest.
You've probably already noticed that the discussion threads are organized by Sections. So that's the place to go for help.
Good to have you.


49 and Vineland. I read Mason & Dixon once and can't wait to re-read it. It is my favorite Pynchon book so far! Looking forward to reading Against The Day, this will be even more daunting than M&D's 773 pages. (I'm interested in that historical era, having done a little research into the McKinley Administration and assassination.

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Hi, Rose, good to have you here!