Ancient & Medieval Historical Fiction discussion
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I have been watching a documentary called Ancient Worlds: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00w0bl0I'm finding it a little basic when it comes to history but it's exploring the start of civilization and can be interesting.
For those in the UK, there was a very interesting doc on BBC4 about a 4000 year old body found recently in an Irish bog. You can "watch again" here:http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03js0gf
For those who are a fan of Neil Oliver documentaries. This new one may be coming to a tv near you. It is based on our Australian War Memorial, so I dare say it won't play around the world for a while. I may be wrong though.Here is the trailer on You Tube (makes me shed a few tears) :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwdYy5...
And the details on it on the Australian History Channel website, it has a clip too, a differnt one to the one above: http://www.historychannel.com.au/tv-s...
Oh, that looks interesting. We'll probably have to wait until summer to get it here on TVO. (I don't know if PBS also shows this). I've seen there other ones; have to say, I'm waiting for Tom Pinfold to grow on me; I prefer Alex Langlands as the third presenter.
Mark wrote: "http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3466348/?...neil olivers new documentary sacred wonders of britain."
I've seen that, it's interesting, but I'm over the whole idea that all sites and finds are 'ritualistic'. I hope people thousands of years from now don't look at our crap and think it's all religious or ritualistic.
here, here, Darcy!! I am so with you there. The 'we don't know what it is or don't want it to be something boring, so lets call it ritualistic' thing does my head in.
Mark wrote: "Keep an eye open for this one.http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/c72..."
For those who get TVO, thisplays on Mondays. Cant remember when it repeats though. Meant to write it down and forgot
My wife sent me this link and I thought it might interest some here - Old film of London (some from the 1890s) and the same shots todayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_me3...
also a nice sound track
happy wrote: "My wife sent me this link and I thought it might interest some here - Old film of London (some from the 1890s) and the same shots todayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_me3...
also a nice sou..."
Tell your wife I said thank you. I've been to some of those places way back in the late 80's before the chunnel was built. Never could get used to the traffic on the left side, made it even hard to cross the street, felt like a little kid going to grade school again. :)
When he was publizing his series on the National Parks, he came to one of the local High Schools and gave a presentation - about 1 1/2 to 2 hours. My wife got us tickets. He doesn't look as young in person as on TV - must be the makeup :)Very interesting and a good speaker. I loved his comment about Bryce Canyon National Park - One of the early Mormon ranchers in the area described as "... a hell of a place to lose a cow!"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/late...new series with exclusive access to never seen parts of pompeii and its finds
Jane wrote: "Allie wrote: "^^^I need to live in England... you have way cooler documentaries over there."Agreed!"
Seconded. I can't find half of the stuff you guys talk about on my cable channels or on Netflix USA or Canada. I have to upgrade to a package that costs $75 more a month just to get the INDIE and BBC channels. Grrrr.
$75 is a bit much, I do pay an extra $4 for BBC Canada, even though it's filled with Mike Holmes for some odd reason. KCTS9 (Public Television) is really good about showing British shows and Vision TV plays some good stuff too.
Dawn wrote: "$75 is a bit much, I do pay an extra $4 for BBC Canada, even though it's filled with Mike Holmes for some odd reason. KCTS9 (Public Television) is really good about showing British shows and Visio..."
Are you with Telus or Shaw? We have Telus and we don't get *insert curse word of choice here* for channels.
Mark wrote: "Mike holmes?"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Ho...
Canada's Home Reno man, he's an idiot and makes my life far more difficult than it has to be.
Him and the Home Depot commercial "You can do it, we can help". So not true, hire a professional!
Dawn wrote: "Mark wrote: "Mike holmes?"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Ho...
Canada's Home Reno man, he's an idiot and makes my life far more difficult than it has to be.
Him and the Home Depot commerci..."
Same as our https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_t... ;D
Dawn wrote: "Telus Optik TV. I have the basic, 2 theme packs ( I think Living & Prime Time) and BBC."We have Telus Optik as well but only the basic package. For some reason...Mr. K....we do get the full pass NHL which allows us to view all the hockey games for the entire season, any team. I'll have to talk to the Mister about theme packs...
Dawn wrote: "Definitely, if he gets all that boring sports stuff, you deserve some good TV!!"I did find the Netflix original of The Borgia's (which apparently is the more historically accurate of the two Borgia series) but I haven't gotten past episode two which was a little hard to understand with me fast forwarding through every scene with blood or a booby (the boys aren't back to school yet) so I'm going to have to wait on that one for awhile.
Last time I house sat at my parents I think I spent all my time binge watching Dragons Den on Netflix, maybe I should look for more quality programs... :)I did watch an interesting documentary on Nina Simone though.
Kimber wrote: "Dawn wrote: "Telus Optik TV. I have the basic, 2 theme packs ( I think Living & Prime Time) and BBC."We have Telus Optik as well but only the basic package. For some reason...Mr. K....we do get t..."
Mmmm sounds like heaven :)
I can't afford heaven :/
Watching time crashers, 2nd in a series of 6, missed the first one.background is 10 uk celebrities including kirsty alley from cheers are living in various historical settings.
first one was as servants in elisabethen house.
one I am watching they are two teams of five acting as squires for knights who will be jousting each other.
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/ti...
Mark wrote: "Watching time crashers, 2nd in a series of 6, missed the first one.background is 10 uk celebrities including kirsty alley from cheers are living in various historical settings.
first one was as ..."
How fun!
The bbc has brought back time commanders, which pc games technology to recreate historical battles.Starts next Monday on bbc4 at 8pm.
might not be to everyone tastes.
Author Ken Follett along with historian Dan Jones, both authors that I really like, have a documentary about the middle ages that has just hit YouTube. Those of you who have access to the BBC have probably already had a chance to view it :)The first episode in on the Black Death and its affects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRvxT...
Second episode on Women in the Middle Ages
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6Kpg...
I've finished watching a couple documentaries on the History channel. Two Neil Oliver docos which are, as is expected, high quality and fascinating.
One was a three part doco on the Celts.
Celts: Blood, Iron and Sacrifice
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06h7x5f
The other was on the early neolithic sites on the Orkney Islands.
Britain's Ancient Capital
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08819tl
I couldn't wait for each episode of these docos to air each week. Two of the most enjoyable docos I have seen for a long while.
Also been watching Digging for Britain. Which is also very good, but not as good as a Neil Oliver Doco.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b014hl0d
Ummm....I can't remember. I've seen a few, but not for a couple years.Surely I would remember it if I had. I need to see if Foxtel have it in their library and watch it online through them.
Meant to say. In that Celt doco they had Boudicas daughters being raped. I thought there was modern opinion among historians that this may not have happened. That they did not rape the daughters.I find that sometimes Docos, including Neil Oliver ones as he is a dramatic Scot, prefer the dramatic versions if the dramatic versions are not yet disproved.
Terri wrote: "Meant to say. In that Celt doco they had Boudicas daughters being raped. I thought there was modern opinion among historians that this may not have happened. That they did not rape the daughters...."
*snorts* It was a typical Roman tactic. These are the people who raped Sejanus' daughter before strangling her because virgins couldn't be executed. She was still a child by Roman law.
There could be no better way to destroy the Iceni, in Roman eyes, than by violating the daughters of their chief. Problem is, the Celtic attitude to woman was different to Rome's. Woman were individuals, not chattels. And it bit the Romans on the arse, hard! They could not conceive that Prastugastus' widow could be a warrior in her own right. They were more used to dealing with Cartimandua who was less a warrior and more a stateswoman.
Oh yes, Romans loved a bit of rape. These were times where the male sex was regularly used to oppress or subjugate. Romans were the kings of that.With Boudica's daughters, I just can't recall what the historians reasoning was behind saying that they may not have been raped.
It was in a doco. I can't recall which.
I had a very quick look and see where it has come from.https://www.ancient.eu/Boudicca/
Of the two Roman retellings by Roman historians, Publius Cornelius Tacitus (56-117 CE) and Cassius Dio (150-235 CE). One has no mention of the torture and rape of the daughters.
I guess most go with the other account (where they were raped and tortured) because that Roman historian was closer to the events.
happy wrote: "Author Ken Follett along with historian Dan Jones, both authors that I really like, have a documentary about the middle ages that has just hit YouTube. Those of you ..."I’m going to have to find this...
Terri wrote: "I've finished watching a couple documentaries on the History channel. Two Neil Oliver docos which are, as is expected, high quality and fascinating.
One was a three part doco on the Celts.
Celts:..."
Both of these sound awesome!
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Footsteps of Thesiger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJeDm-...
It probably already aired a while back and is a repeat, but I only discovered it for the first time two nights ago and am excited to watch the doco this January when it airs.
The doco website: http://footstepsofthesiger.com/