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Am I the only one who hates this book with burning passion?

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message 851: by Dean (new) - rated it 5 stars

Dean Yes. You are the only one who doesn't like this book. Go get yourself checked out.


message 852: by A (new) - rated it 1 star

A Dean wrote: "Yes. You are the only one who doesn't like this book. Go get yourself checked out."




Shanique Harnett I also hated the book. I had such high expectations and then BAM!! all those hopes just died with each chapter I read. The whole time I was reading this book I couldn't help but think,"Who the f*#k talks like that!?" especially teenagers. To me it was so fake and farfetched. I didn't like Hazel or Gus..the conversations were boring and it really annoyed me that I had to keep my dictionary close just to keep up with the dialog.


message 854: by A (new) - rated it 1 star

A Shanique wrote: "I also hated the book. I had such high expectations and then BAM!! all those hopes just died with each chapter I read. The whole time I was reading this book I couldn't help but think,"Who the f*#k..."

Welcome to the club!


message 855: by Aria (new) - rated it 1 star

Aria The movie looks even more cheesy than the book.


message 856: by A (last edited Mar 16, 2014 08:52AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

A Amelia wrote: "The movie looks even more cheesy than the book."

I know right. The movie screams "SEE I AM A SAD, THOUGHT PROVOKING STORY ARE YOU CRYING? ARE YOU CRYING NOW???


message 857: by Esra (new) - rated it 3 stars

Esra I did like the and I recommended it to some friends but I didn't think it was as life changing as people claim it to be. I excpected more from it in a way that's probably the reason I love paper towns and Looking for alaska better it's more realistic as well and less of those cheesy quotes


message 858: by NL (last edited Mar 16, 2014 11:01AM) (new) - added it

NL My librarian at school gave me a free book because I read a lot. I read the fault in our stars.... The ONLY book I have read by john green.. Yet, of all the books my librarian could have given me for free she gave me a JOHN GREEN book-Looking for Alaska. And I know the fault in our stars may be the only bad book by John Green but I can't even pass the first 10 pages of looking for Alaska.


message 859: by [deleted user] (new)

Ayesha wrote: "Amelia wrote: "The movie looks even more cheesy than the book."

I know right. The movie screams "SEE I AM A SAD, THOUGHT PROVOKING STORY ARE YOU CRYING? ARE YOU CRYING NOW???"

I hate stories like those.


message 860: by Aria (new) - rated it 1 star

Aria Everyone is freaking out about the trailer and I'm just rolling my eyes out of my head. If I go to the movie I'm pretty sure I'll just be laughing at the ridiculous "thought-provoking" quotes.


message 861: by Aria (new) - rated it 1 star

Aria Brooke wrote: "Ayesha wrote: "Brooke wrote: "Immy wrote: "Brooke wrote: "I've read some bad books, but never have I read such utter pretentious nonsense as this."

couldn't agree more! feel this way about all Joh..."


I thought Perks was okay, but I didn't understand the hype at all.


message 862: by Aria (new) - rated it 1 star

Aria Ayesha wrote: "Ugh!!! Fine brothers even made a video for this shit-

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=rjMqML..."


I love the fine brothers but I cringed when everyone just talked about how much they adored the book.


message 863: by Aria (new) - rated it 1 star

Aria Ayesha wrote: "Brooke wrote: "Aly wrote: "@Ayesha: I may barf."
Me too."

Count me in.

Oh wait, apparently Green DID write a post-apocalyptic book named Zombicorns."


Please tell me that Zombicorns is a comedy and is not meant to be taken seriously.


message 864: by Emma (last edited Mar 16, 2014 05:01PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Emma Aly wrote: "I ALSO JUST NOW READ THAT SOME TEACHER/PARENT OR WHATEVER IN A SCHOOL HAS ATTACKED GREEN'S BOOKS FOR BEING UNSUITABLE TO THE SCHOOL CURRICULUM.

It's not biggy, but the fact that there's an adult,..."


Actually, that's kind of sad and makes me angry as a book lover. I do not like this book, but I am not a fan of censorship. I don't know about his other books, but I do not see why this is inappropriate for high schoolers. If individual parents have an issue with any of the books they should just tell the teacher they want an alternative for their kids. I was raised by extremely strict, religious parents (or at least my friends thought so). If my parents disapproved of something happening at school they didn't try to get it banned for everyone. They simply explained that I wouldn't be participating. It was never a problem. And by the time I was in high school they let me make my own decisions, unless it was way beyond their beliefs (like premarital sex). In fact, unless it was explicit, my mom let me read whatever I wanted. I saw that Flowers for Algernon was on the list. I think that book is really important for kids to read. Personally, I don't see the benefits of reading John Green's books, unless it is to try to get kids interested in reading, but trying to get them banned is extreme and unnecessary.


message 865: by A (last edited Mar 17, 2014 12:18AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

A Amelia wrote: "I love the fine brothers but I cringed when everyone just talked about how much they adored the book."

I love fine brothers too but it seems to me that most of the teens in the video don't even know what they're saying about the book.


message 866: by A (new) - rated it 1 star

A Aly wrote: "Guys, guys. So I went into a charity shop today, because that's where I buy a lot of my books considering I can get them for like 20p, and guess what I found?!

The owner went out an BOUGHT ALL THE..."


I feel your pain...


message 867: by A (new) - rated it 1 star

A Brooke wrote: "I hate stories like those."

Me too.


message 868: by Abéy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Abéy yes, you're the only one who hates this book with a burning passion


message 869: by [deleted user] (new)

Abey wrote: "yes, you're the only one who hates this book with a burning passion"
No, she is not.


message 870: by A (new) - rated it 1 star

A Abey wrote: "yes, you're the only one who hates this book with a burning passion"




message 871: by A (new) - rated it 1 star

A @Aly

Glad to make you laugh :D


message 872: by A (new) - rated it 1 star

A Look what I received in my inbox-



WTF?


message 873: by [deleted user] (new)

WTF?


message 874: by A (new) - rated it 1 star

A Hahaha! Trolls love me.


message 875: by A (new) - rated it 1 star

A @Aly
It's so funny to find such comments and messages :D
Trolls make me laugh!


message 876: by [deleted user] (new)

Lucy wrote: "I am so happy to finally find someone who dislikes this book as much as I do!"
Your rating contradicts your statement.


message 877: by Siobhan (new) - rated it 1 star

Siobhan Charlotte wrote: "Something interesting: I don't think I've read a single valid review of this book that wasn't negative. Everyone who comes on this thread to defend the book? Click on their 5-star ratings, and you'..."

And the giant Supernatural freak in me dies a little.

TFIOS fans? LEAVE SAM AND DEAN THE HELL ALONE! Dean climbed out of hell and away from you for a reason, Goddammit!


message 878: by A (new) - rated it 1 star

A Charlotte wrote: "Something interesting: I don't think I've read a single valid review of this book that wasn't negative. Everyone who comes on this thread to defend the book? Click on their 5-star ratings, and you'..."

One of the reasons why I don't buy why so many people love it. Most of the fans answer me by saying that this book made them cry, which is no valid reason to love a book so much or call it a masterpiece. If you like a book just because it made you cry then congrats! The writer has successfully manipulated your emotions. In fact I feel that Green had used cancer as a tool to deceive readers into thinking that TfioS is the greatest YA book ever. Remove cancer and I'm sure people would hardly care about it.

My friends themselves never gave me proper reasons as to why they love it so much. It seems that everyone is loving it so they're following along too.

Though, very few fans DID gave me valid reasons to love TfioS and I respect thier opinions.


message 879: by [deleted user] (new)

Lucy wrote: "Brooke wrote: "Lucy wrote: "I am so happy to finally find someone who dislikes this book as much as I do!"
Your rating contradicts your statement."

It does indeed - when I first read this book whe..."

You're welcome. Welcome to this thread and keep your guard up!


message 880: by Ames (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ames Richmond yes. yes you are the only one
this book is freaking awesome!!!!


message 881: by [deleted user] (new)

Amy wrote: "yes. yes you are the only one
this book is freaking awesome!!!!"

*rolls eyes*
Not another one...
Why is it "freaking awesome"?


message 882: by Aria (new) - rated it 1 star

Aria @Ayesha

Their only argument is "TFIOS is amazing, bitch."

*slow clap*


Mochaspresso I'm inclined to wholeheartedly disagree with the notion that the ability to evoke emotion (any emotion, not just sadness) is not a valid reason to like a book. Aspiring writers attend seminars and seek advice on ways to do this all of the time. Most fiction writers actually want their readers to make some type of emotional connection with their characters or their story and many successful novels, whether they were bestsellers or highly regarded classics, are successful precisely for this reason.


message 884: by Hasara (new) - rated it 5 stars

Hasara I have to admit when i first started reading "The fault in our stars", i didn't really see what the fuss was about. However as i progressed through the book, it got a lot better. I was initially very excited to read the book, especially since i had already read John Green's Looking for Alaska. But when comparing i thought Looking for Alaska, his debut novel was much better.

The storytelling and general ideas of the book were much more interesting. It doesn't mean that tfios wasn't good, it was actually a lot better than others but i felt this story line had been done before. It felt very similar to "before i die", which i thought was a very good book.

So i say if you didn't like tfios, at least give looking for Alaska a try. John green is a very good author and you will probably agree once you read looking for Alaska


message 885: by Sammy (new) - rated it 2 stars

Sammy Young Hasara wrote: "I have to admit when i first started reading "The fault in our stars", i didn't really see what the fuss was about. However as i progressed through the book, it got a lot better. I was initially ve..."

I have to disagree I thought Looking For Alaska was a lot worse than TFIOS and I even found it offensive :/


message 886: by Trace (new) - rated it 5 stars

Trace Pasquelle Looking for Alaska started off well. The chapter headings counting down were a device, but I have to admit the idea worked for me. However, without giving anything away, when the big thing happened, thereafter, it was mostly a disappointment. Why the big thing happened was tragic and touching, but thereafter the remaining characters kept thinking and thinking and thinking about why the bad thing happen, repeatedly in both number and content of the imagined reasons. It was as though Green didn't know what to do to get the book to the required page length. Also, the big bug for me, was how extremely idiotic, out of touch, and absent the adults were. Cartoon-like. Could such a mass of parents ignorant of all these kids' actions exist? I suppose, but not likely, and not in a fiction book without it coming off unintentionally comic. Even worse than most of the adults portrayed in TFIOS. Plus - that rhyming rap thing - like a knock to the head of being obviously in need of deletion from the book. So, I - respectfully - disagree with Hasara's assessment of LFA and agree with Sammy.


message 887: by [deleted user] (new)

You know what? I bet at least half of the people who gave TFiOS 5 stars are just faking it because they're afraid of being the only one who didn't like it.


message 888: by Emma (new) - rated it 2 stars

Emma You know, I've never understood the concept of liking something just because other people do, even when I was in high school. What's the point? It's not like those people you are trying to impress care about you. If they did you wouldn't have to pretend to be someone you're not. I'd rather have no friends than fake friends. And I hate fashion trends. All they do is force you to spend way too much money on clothes that look like crap on everyone except fashion models and give your family embarrassing photos to use as blackmail in ten years. Equally bad are anti-conformists who pretend to dislike stuff just because everyone else likes it. It's just as fake. Why can't people have the confidence to be who they are?

Okay, rant over.


Raynebow Personally, I loved the book! I thought it was well written, I liked the story and I thought the characters (though a little unrealistically perfect) were lovable. I have read it twice, but I see your points and agree partly. It's not perfect. But I think for the most part, people love this book. There are a few who like yourself despise it, but I think everyone will have a different view.


Tatyana yes, your the only one.


message 891: by NL (new) - added it

NL Tatyana wrote: "yes, your the only one."

Obviously not, if you bothered to look back at the comments.


message 892: by Zanib (last edited Mar 19, 2014 06:27PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Zanib Yeah, honestly, this book did not live up to my expectations...none of John's books have. I have nothing else to really say that other's have not already stated on this thread.

(Also, no matter how hard I tried to feel sad upon the death of Gus, I could not bring myself to do so. I've read countless books that have brought me to tears yet they are not hyped about: Drums girls and dangerous Pie, for example)


message 893: by Siobhan (new) - rated it 1 star

Siobhan Mochaspresso wrote: "I'm inclined to wholeheartedly disagree with the notion that the ability to evoke emotion (any emotion, not just sadness) is not a valid reason to like a book. Aspiring writers attend seminars a..."

It depends on the type of writer you are. I can make emotional pieces, because I know how to describe feelings, but don't expect me to be able to world-build, because I suck at it. Writers learn their strengths pretty quickly, and have to work at he rest.

I think with John Green, he thinks he is an emotional writer when he's a descriptive writer, and also enjoys philosophy. So he tries to combine emotion with his belief system, and the result is TFIOS. It's whether you buy into his efforts as to whether you think he's risen to the challenge. Personally, I didn't have any emotional connection with this book, no matter how much he tried telling me I should be. He should still be learning his craft before trying to develop his career.

And we've had the enjoyment/quality debate before. I'm leaving that in a very tightly closed box.


message 894: by Siobhan (last edited Mar 19, 2014 05:39PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Siobhan Emma wrote: "You know, I've never understood the concept of liking something just because other people do, even when I was in high school. What's the point? It's not like those people you are trying to impress ..."

I agree with this to a point, but if someone makes a valid point that I hadn't previously considered, I'd like to believe I was open-minded enough to take that on board an re-evaluate. Sometimes a strong opinion can change your mind.


message 895: by Chris (new) - added it

Chris That Aly chick has been non-stop committed to slagging this book off since the beginning of this discussion. It's actually kind of impressive, pointless and trivial, but impressive.


message 896: by Emma (new) - rated it 2 stars

Emma Siobhan wrote: "I agree with this to a point, but if someone makes a valid point that I hadn't previously considered, I'd like to believe I was open-minded enough to take that on board an re-evaluate. Sometimes a strong opinion can change your mind."

There is a difference between taking other viewpoints into consideration when forming an opinion and mindlessly adhering to popular opinion. I actually love having an interchange of ideas and seeing things from new perspectives. My friends will tell you I am obsessed with analyzing things from all possible angles. I just don't understand why some people make popular opinion the sole deciding factor in whether they like something or not.


message 897: by Mochaspresso (last edited Mar 20, 2014 01:21AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mochaspresso Much of this can go both ways. Following the crowd doesn't just occur on one way streets. There are people who also pride themselves on deliberately disliking something just because it is popular, too. I don't think that anyone in this thread would want anyone to make broad unfounded assumptions about why they disliked TFIOS. Perhaps, they should also consider not making broad assumptions about people who did like it. There were posters in this thread who articulated clear reasons for liking the book that went well beyond "it made me cry".


Mochaspresso Siobhan wrote: "Mochaspresso wrote: "I'm inclined to wholeheartedly disagree with the notion that the ability to evoke emotion (any emotion, not just sadness) is not a valid reason to like a book. Aspiring wri..."

People react to books differently. Just because some people don't make an emotional connection, that doesn't and shouldn't mean that someone else's connection is somehow now invalidated.


Mochaspresso Aly wrote: "@Mochaespresso: The reason "it made me cry" does not make a book a masterpiece."

No one single factor makes any book a masterpiece.

I'll speak only for myself, but I have never said that TFIOS was a masterpiece.


message 900: by Siobhan (new) - rated it 1 star

Siobhan Mochaspresso wrote: "Siobhan wrote: "Mochaspresso wrote: "I'm inclined to wholeheartedly disagree with the notion that the ability to evoke emotion (any emotion, not just sadness) is not a valid reason to like a book..."

I would say in as much as, when some writers tell you 'this is sad' some readers will go 'okay, this is sad' and some will go 'why? Why is it sad? How is it sad? Why aren't you making me feel sad?' A real emotional writer won't tell you it's sad, they'll use their language to make you conclude that it is. TFIOS definitely tells you the situation is sad, and that is not enough for me to connect. Great, if it's enough for you, but for me, I'd rather see someone reeling back, clutching their chest, sniffing as they wipe away the tears fighting to leak out of their eyes, a burning tightness in their chest and a hollowness in their stomach.

That's the entire difference.


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