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Why Mockingjay's ending isn't satisfying
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And actually, everything you emphasize for taking enjoyability away from the story due to things happening to Katniss rather than because of her, seems a heck of a lot more realistic than the other way around.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't have a whole lot of control over global events, myself, since I'm just an average person who isn't involved in government or anything.
Life isn't something you can manipulate. Particularly in this type of a situation, there is absolutely no control for someone like Katniss, who is still just a kid, despite all she's been through. I mean, other than making the choice to fight for the cause you believe in. Which she does.
Personally I don't get why some people are so unsatisfied with the end of the series. It seemed like the natural progression for things as we are introduced to them in book 1 - oppression leading to unrest, rebellion, war, and overthrow of the government all told from an instrumental teenage girl's POV. Kinda saw that coming just from reading the description on the back of Hunger Games.
I think the ending, like the rest of the series, is very well done. Mockingjay is a much deeper and more intelligent book than the other two.

For instance, in the epilogue we kinda just say goodbye to Gale.. that doesn't make sense to me since he was such a big part of this series. Then there is also the Peeta plus Katniss thing, yes, we all know they are in love but where did it go? we turn the page,to find Peeta and Katniss talking allwhile the kids are playing. Now don't get me wrong, I have nothing wrong with it but it's a pretty big time skip. a lot of big important things must have happened. Sure, I don't need to know every single detail of theirlive but a little detail wouldnt have hurt anyone.I love Suzanne Collins and her writing. But basically what I'm trying to say, that the epilogue was a big let down the book.
I don't know who does and doesn't agree with me. but this ismy opinion on the book. Feel free to comment on whatever you agree on or disagree on


However, I overall like the ending. I don't feel like Katniss had much control over anything EXCEPT how she reacted to things or situations. She gained control when she rebelled against authority. They could barely control her. She shot at hovercrafts in 8 when she was supposed to duck and cover. She ditched her schedule and training whenever possible. She gave a list of demands when she became the Mockingjay forcing the President to keep her word in front of district 13. She ignored Haymitch in district 2 and made a speech for peace. She made the command take her to district 12 right after it was destroyed even though that could have compromised their position. In the end, she chose to go into the capital after snow and to assassinate coin.
The deaths were sad but did not take away from anything instead making the story more profound.


i hated the ending myself but that doesn't mean it wasn't good, it was actually the only possible ending. it was just so damn depressing, gale gone forever and prim dead despite everything and katniss turning into a well housewife. the hopelessness of it all was the problem not that it was a bad ending.


It would be very limiting. The Hunger Games was all about something the protagonist had happen to her rather than something she made happen. As Plutarch in the CF movie says 'moves and counter moves'. It's how you react to what life gives you.

And prim... Her death was stupid, I didn't like that! Or finnick, that was too sad as we'll!

I agree with this sentiment. Most books seem to be about the people who are in a position to make things happen, or at least in the given situation, but it's interesting to read something where our main character is someone who isn't in that kind of position. It makes it more relatable. :)
While "Mockingjay" was my least favorite of the trio, I didn't have any issue with the ending :)


In Hunger Games, we see her change and adapt, but most of that adaptation is forc..."
I tottaly agree! At the end is like she is only the face of the rebellion and not the spirit... I felt frustrated with all that.
But, the only time she made dessitions almost all of her group died and she chooses Peeta over Gale (but that is just a dessitions I I think she did wrong)

I do also come to the end feeling unpleased with how Katniss's life is just "blah." I expected it maybe to end a little better than that considering she was the face of the rebellion. One last thing I found myself wanting to know at the end was…What exactly is Gale doing in D2? Who is he With? Has he come to terms that Katniss has chosen Peeta? I feel like nothing came to a true conclusion for me, and left me mildly sad.

Real or not real?
It was all to real... There was no storybook ending... Someone had to sacrefice everything. The fact that Peeta and Katniss came together made it bearable. I think the author did a fabulous job of conveying all those feelings and trauma's to the reader, who fellt as hopeless as Katniss.
The ending was horrible, but completely fabulous because of it. The series could not have had a more fitting ending, and in the end Peeta and Katniss survived, which was always the best they could hope for, and these two broken people finally realised that they BOTH needed each other.
Great, great, GREAT ending to a brilliant series.

It seems to be a fault in the book that so many people miss the reason why Katniss votes yes.
It was to do with keeping Coin's trust. Boggs told Katniss that unless Coin believed she had Katniss's full support she'd see her as a threat.
If she had voted 'no' it's unlikely Coin would have trusted her to be armed in her presence for the execution of Snow. However, Katniss kills Coin instead and there's no more Hunger Games.

It seems to be a fault in the book that so many people miss the reason why Katniss votes yes.
It was to do with keeping Coin's trust. Boggs told Katniss that unless Coin believed she had Katniss's full support she'd see her as a threat.
If she had voted 'no' it's unlikely Coin would have trusted her to be armed in her presence for the execution of Snow. However, Katniss kills Coin instead and there's no more Hunger Games.

In Hunger Games, we see her change and adapt, but most of that adaptation is forc..."
Because you want to know how things turm out, and want to read something that is not storybook, but rather, within the context of the fictional setting, realistic? Really, I GET why people found Katniss' trauma's hard to read. It's not easy watching somebody you love suffer, and even though it's fiction you still feel for her.
I think that's the power of this book, the fact that you really don't want to read it because of how bad it gets. War destroys people, even the ones that survive, and there is no reset-button and no HEA guaranteed.

First of all, that most people dislike the ending. With an overall rating of 4.3 stars, it seems that most people do like the ending.
Katniss is a pawn and she knows it but she continually strives to do things on her own terms. She's no puppet.
Let me make a list.
Illegal hunting
Volunteering for the Games.
Shooting an arrow near the Gamemakers
Defying Haymitch and grabbing a backpack instead of immediately fleeing from the Cornucopia.
The flowers surrounding Rue
Putting Cato out of his misery instead of letting the mutts finish him off
The berries
Interfering when Gale is whipped.
Hanging an effigy of Seneca Crane
Wanting to be a martyr for the rebellion by dying in the QQ.
Shooting an arrow through the force field
Refusing to be MJ without conditions attached
Ignoring Haymitch and fighting in District 8
Not attending meetings etc in District 13
Making a break for the Capitol
Killing Coin instead of Snow
We are all victims of circumstance. No one has full agency over their life. I don't know what's expected of a 17-year-old with no political power of her own. She survives two Hunger Games. She's the face of the rebellion. She inspires the Districts to defy the Capitol. She successfully infiltrates enemy territory. She assassinates a head of state. Stops the Hunger Games and saves Panem from another tyrant. Wow. I'd like to see you do that.

so either suzane should write another book (which is not possible) or should have given a complete satisfying ending soooooo ? and when you rate a book the rating is not entirely based on how the book ends but on the whole book(its writing and whether it was enjoyed while reading or not!)

So all this 'why does everyone hate the ending' or 'but almost everybody agrees', is plain false. Although it can seem that way because people are often more vocal with their complaints that their praise.
A fourth book wouldn't fit the overall arc of the trilogy which is about the Hunger Games. Once they were over, that's the end of the story. It was also the end of Katniss's and Peeta's adventures and they settle into a quiet life. Hardly exciting for those who read the trilogy as a dystopian/sc-fi/adventure. The romance was really a subplot.
Peeta and Katniss's growing together would follow the same trajectory as their relationship in the Games and the Victory tour. It would take time for Katniss to pull herself out of her depression and Peeta to either recover his memories or make new ones with Katniss.
You might like this: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6554253/...
It's fan fiction but very well done. I think it's quite a plausible imagining of how it might have happened - complete with continued media interest in the Mockingjay and the star-crossed lovers.

I found it an alright ending, not exactly satisfying but good enough to not disappoint me. Considering that Katniss is a teenage girl who is at the start of the book, living in a regime that had started about 100 years ago, I'm not quite sure what people expect of Katniss when they say that the story happens to her. As if she'd realistically be able to overthrow a system she was born into using a bow and arrow and knowledge of coal.



I feel the same way. Suzanne could have added more to the epilogue. It was so disappointing because it lacked so much detail. The rest of the book was good though.
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In Hunger Games, we see her change and adapt, but most of that adaptation is forced upon her by Haymitch, allowing for only a few moments of real decisions on her part: volunteering for the Games, saving Peeta, Rue, and the berries. In Catching Fire, we again see her attempting to change, but ultimately most of what happens is forced upon her (again, by Haymitch and others). The end, when she takes out the forcefield and the aftermath, is so random I found it jarring.
But by far the worst was Mockingjay. We see Katniss at her worst, and we see her recover. We see her willingly offer her life in District 2, when she puts down her bow to offer peace. She then goes through a remarkable and amazing transformation (which seems at odds with what she just did), and we get the sense that maybe, just maybe, she will break out and stop being a puppet. She takes some initiative and attempts to assassinate Snow. But as great as the fighting scenes in the Capital are, they largely happen TO Katniss, not BECAUSE of her. She decides to press on after Bogg's death, but in large part because of him. She is funneled toward the end, and after all this effort to transform her, all her sacrifices and those of her team, her free will is again stripped from her by a random spout of fire that inexplicably burns her despite multiple layers of clothing and her own distance from the explosion. (Either she is too stupid to remove her clothing, or she is much closer to the explosion than we are led to believe.)
We then see her lose whatever sense of control she spent most of Mockingjay obtaining. Her final decision to shoot Coin is special, but not enough to overcome the readers' sense of betrayal.
Prim's death is sad, as is Finnick's and many others. Whether they were necessary or not is open to debate. What matters is that stories should happen BECAUSE of people, yet the entire trilogy consists of Katniss reacting to this, or coerced into doing that, etc. She doesn't make many meaningful decisions. When we finally get a glimpse of real choice, it is taken away from Katniss and the rest of the story is determined by Haymitch, Peeta, Snow, and others.
This, I believe, is why the events may or may not be to your liking, but almost everyone agrees that they are unsatisfied by the book's ending. The central theme, Katniss' freedom, is left the same as it was on page one of Hunger Games. Her leash changes hands, from the Capital, to the Rebels and Haymitch, even finally resting with Peeta and Greasy Sae at the end. But she is still leashed, incapable of doing anything by herself and instead constantly riding along more powerful characters' decisions.
Do you agree or disagree?