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Fan talk > Do you think Tris should be blamed for shooting Will?

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message 1: by Aishatariq (new)

Aishatariq | 10 comments I, personally, dont think so.


message 2: by Noura (new)

Noura Rakab | 15 comments I really don't know. He was her best friends boyfriend and he was really sweet and nice to her.... I really don't know


message 3: by cindy ♡ (new)

cindy ♡ No, because she had to to stay alive since he was going to shoot her. And he was under the simulation, so she couldn't really do anything about it.


message 4: by Minimoule (new)

Minimoule | 43 comments I don't know cause I love will soooooo much however I don't think she could have done anything else, but I do resent the fact that she didn't try to think of another way around the situation.


message 5: by Jade (new)

Jade (wolvesjsmith) | 19 comments NO


message 6: by Savannah (new)

Savannah (trisiparis) | 46 comments no because if Will shot Tris, Christina would find out and leave him.


message 7: by Minimoule (new)

Minimoule | 43 comments That makes no sense


message 8: by Minimoule (new)

Minimoule | 43 comments Surely then she should be blamed?!?!Q


message 9: by Isabelle (new)

Isabelle (isabellevictoria147) | 7 comments She should have shot his hand. On the other side though, she had just witnessed her own mothers death and her thoughts probably weren't coming in very clearly. The first thing she thought of was save her self. Although I am still wondering why the abnegation third of her hadn't kicked in. The erudite and dauntless we're overpowering her abnegation maybe???


message 10: by Cindy Skyler (new)

Cindy Skyler (Cindy_Sarah) | 4 comments A bit, yes. She could of shot him somewhere else where it wouldn't have killed him. Divergent lost a great character that day. I loved Will..


message 11: by [deleted user] (new)

No, because Will was under the simulation and she couldn't think fast enough to think of an alternative option.


message 12: by Emma (new)

Emma | 13 comments No, if Will was the one in Tris's shoes, and Tris was in Wills, then Will would have shot Tris and Christina would have been even sadder! So no.


message 13: by Emma (new)

Emma | 13 comments But it might be her fault because she could have shot Wills feet instead of shooting him in the head- THINK TRIS, THINK!- but it is not totally her fault, she was hesitant.


message 14: by Claire (last edited Dec 19, 2013 06:29PM) (new)

Claire he was about to kill her and the only way to stop him was to kill him so no. He wouldn't have stopped unless he was killed


message 15: by Abigail (new)

Abigail | 290 comments Ya, sure she could've shot his feet but there'd be a chance he could still shoot her. If she didn't do it she wouldn't of been able to save everyone else


message 16: by Lauren (new)

Lauren She's a bit to blame because she could have shot him somewhere other than his head, but if I was in her shoes, I probably would have shot him in the head too if he was about to shoot me.


message 17: by Kaity (new)

Kaity (i-love-books-because-reasons) I kind of don't think so, because she only shot him out of self defense.


message 18: by Stormy (new)

Stormy :) (Stormy0218) | 1043 comments It was self defense. Will was going to kill her and she did what the Dauntless had taught her to do. Let's be realistic here, imagine you being held by gunpoint by one of your best friends, you were almost drowned in a water tank, your boy friend is under a serum doing to who knows what, and your mom just died. Would you even be thinking about where to shoot him. There wasn't enough time for her to even process what she was doing and she panicked.


message 19: by Fangirlforbooks (new)

Fangirlforbooks | 17 comments No. I mean I understand why Christina was upset, but I wasn't really will. It was another person controlling will. So I don't think she should've felt as bad as she did.


message 20: by Hannah (new)

Hannah | 73 comments i actually haven't given this much thought but on one hand i think she definitely should have tried to shoot him somewhere that wouldn't have killed him but then again it was self defense and she probably wasn't thinking straight but i like to think i would never do something like that to my best friend.


message 21: by Tris (new)

Tris | 92 comments yes, she shouldnt have shot him in the head. he could have shot his arm or something like she did to eric.


message 22: by Samantha (new)

Samantha (Samanthaa3) | 6 comments No, because well she was in a panic. He was under stimulation, she couldn't talk him out. I doubt she had time to think of another way to settle it. It was Will or Her.


message 23: by Sαɾαԋ (new)

Sαɾαԋ ♥† (pie_in_ur_face) | 137 comments Either way, you can't win. Will wasn't himself: he was under stimulation. Tris panicked and I doubt you can expertly shoot someone in the arm etc. when you're panicked like the way that she was.


message 24: by Stormy (new)

Stormy :) (Stormy0218) | 1043 comments Exactly. She was in a state of panic and her mind wasn't all there because of the events of the past hour,


message 25: by [deleted user] (new)

Yes because the only solution shouldn't be to automatically shoot your friend- be wise Tris. But Will was under simulation so she shouldn't be entirely blamed!


message 26: by MiMi (new)

MiMi (planetearthturnsslowly) No. It is a pretty obvious choice. It was either shoot your friend, or you got shot among a thousand others. Kind of easy to choose I think.


message 27: by Abigail (new)

Abigail | 290 comments Ya she could've shot him somewhere else, but she was panicked and he could've just shot her from where he was on the ground if she didn't kill him. If she hadn't gotten past him, she wouldn't of been able to stop the stimulation


message 28: by [deleted user] (new)

I totally agree with you @Abigail


message 29: by Arikah (new)

Arikah Lynne At the moment I was reading that part i thoughts yes, like why couldn't she shoot him in the hand or something, but by the end of insurgent I would say not really


message 30: by Kasey (new)

Kasey Mcquitty | 16 comments NO


message 31: by Ciara (new)

Ciara (ciararatkay) | 87 comments NOOO!!!


ʟ ᴀ ᴜ ʀ ᴀ NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


message 33: by [deleted user] (new)

I don't think she should've killed him. She could've shot him somewhere else. In my mind, even if he was under a stimulation and she was stressed, the first thing to go through her mind shouldn't be to kill him. And it wasn't an accident that she did, and she didn't aim blindly either.

"The bullet hit him in the head. I know because that's where I aimed it." -


message 34: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 30 comments She shoulve shot him in the hand


message 35: by [deleted user] (new)

If she didn't then it would have changed the story. But Amanda^ I thought of that when I read it! :P


message 36: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 30 comments Ah ya lol!


message 37: by Robin45089 (new)

Robin45089 | 68 comments I don't think Tris should be blamed for killing Will, I mean it was a matter of life and death. Also, Tris would've died. It's like saying that Tris, who had no other option should be blamed but if Will killed Tris, he would not be blamed because he was under a simulation. I would have done the same thing as Tris.


message 38: by [deleted user] (new)

Robin45089 wrote: "I don't think Tris should be blamed for killing Will, I mean it was a matter of life and death. Also, Tris would've died. It's like saying that Tris, who had no other option should be blamed but if..."

You're absolutely right! ;)


message 39: by Robin45089 (new)

Robin45089 | 68 comments Miss Amazingness wrote: "I don't think she should've killed him. She could've shot him somewhere else. In my mind, even if he was under a stimulation and she was stressed, the first thing to go through her mind shouldn't b..."

You make a good counter claim but that doesn't change my mind.


message 40: by [deleted user] (new)

Okay. I don't think Tris should be blamed, but still she didn't HAVE to kill him…


message 41: by Ashley (new)

Ashley | 16 comments No not at all, it was in the heat of the moment and she's still kind of new to Dauntless


message 42: by Elizabeth (new)

Elizabeth Siciliano (bethann4j) | 27 comments No
It's like if someone came in your house and held a fun to your head and you could defend yourself you should

Will was not will when he was about to shoot her
He was a robot


message 43: by Eleanor (new)

Eleanor | 14 comments I honestly believe that she shot him in the heat of the moment because when someone's about to kill you, pulling the trigger to kill is an obvious impulse.


message 44: by Ally (new)

Ally Bryan (allysbookshoparoundthecorner) | 40 comments No I don't think she should be blamed for it..it was self defense. But I still say, "Tris, you couldn't of just shot him in the shoulder or the leg???"


message 45: by Joe (new)

Joe | 1 comments yeah and atleast the guilt should be killing her..... i mean shooting him right in the head????


message 46: by Amelia (new)

Amelia Desrochers | 54 comments Personally I think no because first she just know she is a divergent and because of that she doesn't react like the others . Already with this she's so confused and when the attack happened imagine the stress she felt! I don't know how she reacted like this it is very brave from her! During the attack she had one goal when she found her mother. Go hide somewhere with her! She was in her mind: kill, kill, kill to survive! When she saw Will she was in that mentality and what could she do better? Let Will kill her and her mother!? So no she doesn't have to be punish for this ! Christina doesn't have to be mad she killed other people too even if it is under simulation!!! So that's it


message 47: by Jill Queenie (new)

Jill Queenie Narciso (sassyreaderx) Of course, bc she shot him but it doesn't mean she meant to do it and needs to pay for it.


message 48: by Sharon (new)

Sharon (lis_1691) | 12 comments No, because was self-defense ... i wouldnt have changed anything if she had tried to talk to him, because he was in a simulation


message 49: by Kasey (new)

Kasey Mcquitty | 16 comments No because it was self-defense. I mean, imagine yourself in that position. What would you do? I mean, sure, I might have shot him in like the leg or something. But I still would have shot him in some part.


message 50: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie Noel (wherestephaniereads) No, because 1. Will was under the simulation and he was going to kill her. 2 She needs to save herself regardless who it is, and it's self-defense. 3 she wasn't mentally or emotionally able to think of alternative ways to escape the situation. You to think fast and quick.


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