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Jennifer W
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Oct 03, 2025 03:43PM
Hey Kelly, just wanted to see how you're doing? Drop me a line sometime if you need to vent!
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I also wanted to see if anyone has read or planned in the near future to read some banned books? Banned Books Week starts this Sunday here in the US and I have several out from the library- The Black Flamingo, Children of Blood and Bone, Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West, and Girl Made of Stars. What can I say? I got grabby hands... ;)
I really enjoyed parts of Wicked and I do agree that it isn't for kids. The musical chopped too much in the second act but also sanitized the story. Then I slogged through the entire series and nothing happened so now I like the musical much more.
Better now. The police shooed my roommate out this afternoon and she's now on a bus to New York. I'm emotionally drained but better. Thanks for asking. I'll try to get to the poll in the next couple of days.
Yay! So glad your nightmare is over! Hopefully she gets the help she needs. Take some time to decompress, we'll be here.QN, I've heard that it's not meant for kids. I haven't seen the movie or the musical, I actually don't know much about the storyline, other than it's Glinda and the WW of the W's backstory. My dad and daughter are big fans of the original Oz movie, I'm just kinda meh on it.
QNPoohBear wrote: "I really enjoyed parts of Wicked and I do agree that it isn't for kids. The musical chopped too much in the second act but also sanitized the story. Then I slogged through the entire series and not..."You are better than I am. I made it to the second or third chapter before giving up, and my husband didn't even make it that far.
Me, too. I tried to read it many many years ago right after it was published because I kind of didn't dislike the other fairy tale retelling he wrote first but no go.
Ivonne wrote: "You are better than I am. I made it to the second or third chapter before giving up, and my husband didn't even make it that far
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It gets a lot better once Elphaba's backstory is over with and she starts working with Dr. Dillamond on his research into Animals vs. animals. Then it gets political. The story asks a lot of important questions: "Are people born wicked or do they have wickedness thrust upon them?" and really "What makes someone wicked?" Hint: The media is a big propaganda machine for the government and whoever the government thinks is the enemy at the time is evil. When Maguire came up with the idea for the book, that was Saddam Hussein in the George H. W. Bush era of Desert Storm.
What would you do if everything you were taught turns out to be a lie? How far would you go to stand up for your beliefs? Do you take the easy path and "dance through life" or do you take the hard path and "defy gravity"?
The musical was written by Jewish Americans about Jewish Americans but now there's a Black woman starring as Elphaba, the story has taken on a new dimension. Also, Elphie is a big LGBTQ+ icon with young adults. And now with the political situation in the U.S. sounding eerily similar to the politics in the story, it's even more relevant than it was in 2001 when the musical debuted.
I love the animal rights plot and my nieces do too. My younger niece is a horse girl so I just explained it to her "What would you think if your horse could walk and talk like you and teach one of your classes at school?" "OMG! I'd love it! He'd be my best friend!" Then "How would you feel if someone then told him he has to go back to being a horse like the kind you ride?" "OMG! I'd kill them!" That about sums up the rest of the novel plus a steamy affair before it intersects with WoZ. I haven't liked any of his other fairy tales either but I connect with Elphaba. I have a lot of green girl in me.
Son of a Witch was dark but good too. I don't recall the scene why they want to ban it quite the way it was interpreted. Don't bother with the rest of the series. Nothing happens and now he's still milking the success of the musical with MORE unnecessary books. Niece #1 might like the sequels but right now she says she no longer reads fantasy.
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It gets a lot better once Elphaba's backstory is over with and she starts working with Dr. Dillamond on his research into Animals vs. animals. Then it gets political. The story asks a lot of important questions: "Are people born wicked or do they have wickedness thrust upon them?" and really "What makes someone wicked?" Hint: The media is a big propaganda machine for the government and whoever the government thinks is the enemy at the time is evil. When Maguire came up with the idea for the book, that was Saddam Hussein in the George H. W. Bush era of Desert Storm.
What would you do if everything you were taught turns out to be a lie? How far would you go to stand up for your beliefs? Do you take the easy path and "dance through life" or do you take the hard path and "defy gravity"?
The musical was written by Jewish Americans about Jewish Americans but now there's a Black woman starring as Elphaba, the story has taken on a new dimension. Also, Elphie is a big LGBTQ+ icon with young adults. And now with the political situation in the U.S. sounding eerily similar to the politics in the story, it's even more relevant than it was in 2001 when the musical debuted.
I love the animal rights plot and my nieces do too. My younger niece is a horse girl so I just explained it to her "What would you think if your horse could walk and talk like you and teach one of your classes at school?" "OMG! I'd love it! He'd be my best friend!" Then "How would you feel if someone then told him he has to go back to being a horse like the kind you ride?" "OMG! I'd kill them!" That about sums up the rest of the novel plus a steamy affair before it intersects with WoZ. I haven't liked any of his other fairy tales either but I connect with Elphaba. I have a lot of green girl in me.
Son of a Witch was dark but good too. I don't recall the scene why they want to ban it quite the way it was interpreted. Don't bother with the rest of the series. Nothing happens and now he's still milking the success of the musical with MORE unnecessary books. Niece #1 might like the sequels but right now she says she no longer reads fantasy.
I won my protection order hearing against my crazy roommate! Thank you all who wished me well. Thank you for your kindness. You must have put good vibes into the universe that I'm sure helped me! :)
Look at the stuff from mid-September until now, especially my posts as I consolidated a lot of information about what we'd like to read next.
I'll post what needs to be done for the poll hopefully tomorrow.
I'll post what needs to be done for the poll hopefully tomorrow.
Kelly (Maybedog) wrote: "I won my protection order hearing against my crazy roommate! Thank you all who wished me well. Thank you for your kindness. You must have put good vibes into the universe that I'm sure helped me! :)"
Hooray! That must be a great relief and now you can focus on yourself and getting back to a normal life.
Hooray! That must be a great relief and now you can focus on yourself and getting back to a normal life.
Kelly (Maybedog) wrote: "Oh, thank you for reminding me. The last five days of the month and the first of the following are extremely busy for me because of a very involved challenge I facilitate and I'm housesitting Thurs..."...new to the thread and I apologize if I missed where the poll "lives" within the group. Can you please share the link with me?
Up on the right hand side of the page, there's a box with group-related links. There are links there for discussions, bookshelf, etc. One of those is Polls. Click on that to get the page for all the polls. It will give you an idea of what I think we should be doing.
I wish. She has a bunch of stuff here she has to get by the first week of December.
But saying that, I am so relieved and you're right, the chapter of my life with her a regular person is absolutely gone so yes, yay!
But saying that, I am so relieved and you're right, the chapter of my life with her a regular person is absolutely gone so yes, yay!
Ugh. With a protective order, does that mean she needs to be escorted/accompanied by someone when she does come back? If not officially, maybe see if you can have your own support with you.
Yes, she has to be escorted and I think I need to leave. I would anyway. I don't ever want to see her again. I suspect she'll have someone else do it, her daughter perhaps. Although the young woman is very unreliable, some of the stuff is hers. Yet she came her multiple times to get her stuff and left with a small item or two.
The problem is that they have nowhere to put it. They can't afford a storage unit.
I can picture my landlord not getting rid of it because she's afraid of the woman and just continue to let it sit in the room.
It's all a mess.
The problem is that they have nowhere to put it. They can't afford a storage unit.
I can picture my landlord not getting rid of it because she's afraid of the woman and just continue to let it sit in the room.
It's all a mess.
Kelly (Maybedog) wrote: "Yes, she has to be escorted and I think I need to leave. I would anyway. I don't ever want to see her again. I suspect she'll have someone else do it, her daughter perhaps. Although the young woman..."I'm sure it is (a mess). I think landlords have to keep property for 90 days (or maybe 6 months, but that seems excessive). I would have her write up a "please retrieve your belongings by X date or it will be disposed of at our discretion" get it notarized and send it certified mail.
It depends on the jurisdiction, in my area it's a county law. Here it's 45 days if the value is over $200. My landlord gave her 60 days from the day she was served even though she had been squatting for a couple of days. My landlord says she's done everything officially but I'm not sure I believe her. It's also up to her whether to keep the woman's stuff longer. I had to bother her a lot to get her to push an eviction.
She was letting her squat, too, without filing the petition needed to start the process of eviction. She was just hoping my temporary protection order was accepted. She's kind of passive that way. She hates conflict to the point that she agrees with the person she's talking with no matter what they're saying. So I'm sure my roommate thought my landlord didn't like me either.
She was letting her squat, too, without filing the petition needed to start the process of eviction. She was just hoping my temporary protection order was accepted. She's kind of passive that way. She hates conflict to the point that she agrees with the person she's talking with no matter what they're saying. So I'm sure my roommate thought my landlord didn't like me either.
Kelly (Maybedog) wrote: "I won my protection order hearing against my crazy roommate! Thank you all who wished me well. Thank you for your kindness. You must have put good vibes into the universe that I'm sure helped me! :)"
Wow, good news, and I hope the news stays good as well!!
Wow, good news, and I hope the news stays good as well!!
Kelly (Maybedog) wrote: "I wish. She has a bunch of stuff here she has to get by the first week of December.
But saying that, I am so relieved and you're right, the chapter of my life with her a regular person is absolut..."
Would you be allowed to clear out her stuff and put it into temporary storage, so she has to go there to retrieve it?
But saying that, I am so relieved and you're right, the chapter of my life with her a regular person is absolut..."
Would you be allowed to clear out her stuff and put it into temporary storage, so she has to go there to retrieve it?
In short, no.
The story is convoluted but basically unrelated to the protection order, I told my landlord to take the woman to put a storage unit in her name and then just pay the first two months. That way if it lapsed, it wouldn't go on my landlord's credit and it would be all up to the roommate. She didn't do it. So now if she does, she's liable for the unit and will be penalized if it's not paid for. My landlord will just let it sit there, too, and end up paying for it. This way with it hindering her ability to use the room, she has more impetus to actually get rid of it. (This is a woman who is keeping a storage unit for the brother she has a five year protection order against and who also has been paying money monthly to a burglar alarm system company she hasn't used in the five and a half years I've lived here despite being very short of money. )
I can't legally touch it, I'm pretty sure, and I don't want to open myself up to her accusing me of stealing stuff if I were to even help box stuff up. (She didn't box up anything even though she knew she was being evicted.
The story is convoluted but basically unrelated to the protection order, I told my landlord to take the woman to put a storage unit in her name and then just pay the first two months. That way if it lapsed, it wouldn't go on my landlord's credit and it would be all up to the roommate. She didn't do it. So now if she does, she's liable for the unit and will be penalized if it's not paid for. My landlord will just let it sit there, too, and end up paying for it. This way with it hindering her ability to use the room, she has more impetus to actually get rid of it. (This is a woman who is keeping a storage unit for the brother she has a five year protection order against and who also has been paying money monthly to a burglar alarm system company she hasn't used in the five and a half years I've lived here despite being very short of money. )
I can't legally touch it, I'm pretty sure, and I don't want to open myself up to her accusing me of stealing stuff if I were to even help box stuff up. (She didn't box up anything even though she knew she was being evicted.
If it's in the eviction order how long she has to come back, then she (LL) should be covered (if it wasn't spelled out before, maybe your LL could file something with the court, otherwise, what I suggested above should be sufficient). But no, absolutely don't you touch her stuff! Honestly, I don't even think your landlord should touch it until the day of disposal rolls around. Then she can't claim any of you did anything to her stuff. Sheesh, what a nightmare this is for all of you.
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Kelly (Maybedog), Minister of Illicit Reading
(last edited Oct 20, 2025 03:44PM)
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She's going to film her packing it up if she ends up having to do it earlier. But I doubt she will. I think it will be there for months.
Yea, it's crazy. But I appreciate what all those people have to go through to get a protection order against someone who's beating them up. It must be even more terrifying than the day to day abuse knowing it could send the person over the edge. I can only guess.
Thank you so much for your interest and kind words.
Yea, it's crazy. But I appreciate what all those people have to go through to get a protection order against someone who's beating them up. It must be even more terrifying than the day to day abuse knowing it could send the person over the edge. I can only guess.
Thank you so much for your interest and kind words.
What about these 9 books....in the only book ban that made its legal way to the US Supreme Court and how one voice, Steven Pico and his fellow HS students fought the ban?https://action.everylibrary.org/only_...
When nine of those books were later found in the library of Island Trees High School, Ahrens and the board ordered them removed, calling them “anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-Sem[i]tic, and just plain filthy.” The books were
Richard Wright’s Black Boy;
Kurt Vonnegut’s Slaughterhouse-Five;
Alice Childress’s A Hero Ain’t Nothin’ But a Sandwich;
Oliver La Farge’s Laughing Boy, which won the 1930 Pulitzer Prize;
The Naked Ape by zoologist Desmond Morris;
Down These Mean Streets by Afro-Puerto Rican poet Piri Thomas;
Soul on Ice by Black Panther Party leader Eldridge Cleaver;
the anonymous drug memoir Go Ask Alice; and
Best Short Stories by Negro Writers, edited by Langston Hughes.
Can you add those to our bookshelf? Some are already there. We've already read Slaughterhouse Five so I don't want to add those.
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Kelly (Maybedog), Minister of Illicit Reading
(last edited Oct 21, 2025 01:23PM)
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Do people still want to help with preparing the polls for our group reads?
Here are the tasks and there are only one and a half left. We can split up each one up even more. I can do more, I just wanted to explain what's needed.
(Audrey) 1. Go through this list and find all the books people are interested in (starting with post 104--not all are recommendations).
2. Add them to the shelves if they're not already there.*
(Audrey but could use help) 3. Add the reason for being banned. (This can be done just for the books in the poll.)*
(Kelly) 4. Compile the books for the poll and make sure we haven't read any before.
(Kelly) 5. Post here to make sure people are okay with the selections.
(Kelly) 6. Make the poll and message members.
*It would be helpful if people did this with the books they recommended.
Here are the tasks and there are only one and a half left. We can split up each one up even more. I can do more, I just wanted to explain what's needed.
(Audrey) 1. Go through this list and find all the books people are interested in (starting with post 104--not all are recommendations).
2. Add them to the shelves if they're not already there.*
(Audrey but could use help) 3. Add the reason for being banned. (This can be done just for the books in the poll.)*
(Kelly) 4. Compile the books for the poll and make sure we haven't read any before.
(Kelly) 5. Post here to make sure people are okay with the selections.
(Kelly) 6. Make the poll and message members.
*It would be helpful if people did this with the books they recommended.
Kelly, you want the books we've suggested for possible group reads added to the shelf? Just as "to read"? Do you want other books we've mentioned that have been banned added as well, or just the books we offered up as possible group reads?I'm happy to help!
Hi, everyone. I want to suggest you check out the 2025 book, “Banned Together: Our Fight for Readers’ Rights” edited by Ashley Hope Perez. I am finishing it now and absolutely love it. It’s an anthology of graphic stories and essays from banned authors. It’s geared towards teenagers, but it should be read by everyone, especially ignorant book banners who never read. Anyway, I suggest reading it as a hard copy, not audio. This book is a keeper and I will be sending it to my daughter to use with my grandsons so they continue having the freedom to read what they choose. Every teacher should have a copy, also.
Judy wrote: "Hi, everyone. I want to suggest you check out the 2025 book, “Banned Together: Our Fight for Readers’ Rights” edited by Ashley Hope Perez. I am finishing it now and absolutely love it. It’s an anth..."
Thanks for the glowing review. It hasn't made it to my library yet but it's on the TBR list!
Thanks for the glowing review. It hasn't made it to my library yet but it's on the TBR list!
Kelly (Maybedog) wrote: "She's going to film her packing it up if she ends up having to do it earlier. But I doubt she will. I think it will be there for months.
Yea, it's crazy. But I appreciate what all those people ha..."
Good luck, maybe she will just leave??
Yea, it's crazy. But I appreciate what all those people ha..."
Good luck, maybe she will just leave??
Jennifer W wrote: "Kelly, you want the books we've suggested for possible group reads added to the shelf? Just as "to read"? Do you want other books we've mentioned that have been banned added as well, or just the bo..."
I'd like any book that has been banned or challenged (that we can verify on line, not that we will) added. So any group reads in particular need to be or they can't be used, I don't think. I can't remember how it works. So any of the books mentioned here.
But Audiophile Audrey is making a spreadsheet up of the books so once that's put together we can start adding them to the bookshelf if they're not already there.
If you'd like to help, either wait until the spreadsheet is done or go ahead and add to the shelf any book listed in this thread (since message 104 in particular) then we'll add the rest from the spreadsheet that haven't been added yet.
If anyone else wants to help add books, we can hold off until we can divy it up. Audrey is doing a lot of work and maybe we can help her out with finding the reason a book has been banned or challenged.
I'd like any book that has been banned or challenged (that we can verify on line, not that we will) added. So any group reads in particular need to be or they can't be used, I don't think. I can't remember how it works. So any of the books mentioned here.
But Audiophile Audrey is making a spreadsheet up of the books so once that's put together we can start adding them to the bookshelf if they're not already there.
If you'd like to help, either wait until the spreadsheet is done or go ahead and add to the shelf any book listed in this thread (since message 104 in particular) then we'll add the rest from the spreadsheet that haven't been added yet.
If anyone else wants to help add books, we can hold off until we can divy it up. Audrey is doing a lot of work and maybe we can help her out with finding the reason a book has been banned or challenged.
Judy wrote: "Hi, everyone. I want to suggest you check out the 2025 book, “Banned Together: Our Fight for Readers’ Rights” edited by Ashley Hope Perez. I am finishing it now and absolutely love it. It’s an anth..."
Hi Judy, any book about banning can be added to our shelves as well. It would be great if you would add this book to them.
Are you suggesting we read it for the group reads? If not, a better place to put books you recommend is to create a thread in General Discussions about it. Then you can get people talking and it will reach a wider range, not just people who are trying to decide our group reads.
Thanks for the rec!
Hi Judy, any book about banning can be added to our shelves as well. It would be great if you would add this book to them.
Are you suggesting we read it for the group reads? If not, a better place to put books you recommend is to create a thread in General Discussions about it. Then you can get people talking and it will reach a wider range, not just people who are trying to decide our group reads.
Thanks for the rec!
Manybooks wrote: "Kelly (Maybedog) wrote: "She's going to film her packing it up if she ends up having to do it earlier. But I doubt she will. I think it will be there for months.
Yea, it's crazy. But I appreciate..."
She's gone. Hopefully she won't try to come back.
We should stop talking about this here, though. I should have stopped myself earlier.
Yea, it's crazy. But I appreciate..."
She's gone. Hopefully she won't try to come back.
We should stop talking about this here, though. I should have stopped myself earlier.
Kelly (Maybedog) wrote: "Manybooks wrote: "Kelly (Maybedog) wrote: "She's going to film her packing it up if she ends up having to do it earlier. But I doubt she will. I think it will be there for months.
Yea, it's crazy..."
It's good to talk about it. I'm glad the long nightmare is over. Now you can focus on yourself.
Yea, it's crazy..."
It's good to talk about it. I'm glad the long nightmare is over. Now you can focus on yourself.
Kelly (Maybedog) wrote: "Jennifer W wrote: "Kelly, you want the books we've suggested for possible group reads added to the shelf? Just as "to read"? Do you want other books we've mentioned that have been banned added as w..."Sounds good.
I was reading an article about the books that have been pulled from Department of Defense schools. They had banned almost 600 books from school shelves. The parents who sued to get the books reinstated first had to ask the court to compel the government to release the list of the books that have been pulled! (Gov't claimed that just by seeing what books were removed, without any other context would impede the gov't's ability to freely discuss what books should be removed and for what reasons). Anyway, they won that, and they've since won to have all books returned to the shelves *of the schools with children who were party to the suit*. About a dozen, but any school that didn't have a kid in on the lawsuit, still has the books off the shelves.
Anyway.... the reason I'm yammering about all this here is that the original reason these books were pulled were because they were "woke". Or, officially, they violate "various Presidential Executive Orders allegedly targeting gender ideology, "discriminatory equity ideology,” and anti-American sentiments in the federal government". I'm happy to go through and add the 600 books (slowly, lol) to our shelf, but I was wondering for under the reason a book was banned if you want me to guess (ex: "You Can Tell Just By Looking": And 20 Other Myths about LGBT Life and People banned for LQTBQ+ content) or just go with that statement about violating Executive Orders?
The DoD list is ridiculous. What's wrong with a memoir about dogs you ask? The author is a Transgender activist. I have both the original list and the revised list. Most of the books on it simply don't make sense.
Are you ready for this? The initial list was made by keyword search:
BANNED
Gender, "Critical Race Theory," "DEI" (diversity months like Black History Month, Women's History Month, AAPI Month, Indigenous History Month, etc.)
Buzzwords include “disability,” “women,” “female,” “minority,” “historically,” “underrepresented,” or “socioeconomic.”
including women in STEM, Black history, women's history, anything with a whiff of racism, sexism, antisemitism and anything that goes against their White, Christian, Nationalist agenda.
Full memo
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iKxU...
Picture Books
A is for Activist
All Bodies are Wonderful: Use Science to Celebrate Everyone's Body!
10,000 Dresses
#Blacklivesmatter: Protesting Racism: Protesting Racism by Rachael L. Thomas
#Pride: Championing LGBTQ Rights: Championing LGBTQ Rights by Rebecca Felix
A Child's Introduction to Pride: The Inspirational History and Culture of the LGBTQIA+ Community
All You Need Is Love: Celebrating Families of All Shapes and Sizes
Are You a Boy or Are You a Girl?
Atrocities in Action
Auntie Uncle: Drag Queen Hero
Be Your True Self
Calvin
Door by Door: How Sarah McBride Became America's First Openly Transgender Senator
Equality & Diversity
Equality, Social Justice, and Our Future
From the Stars in the Sky to the Fish in the Sea
A House for Everyone: A Story to Help Children Learn about Gender Identity and Gender Expression
I Am Jazz
I Am an Antiracist Superhero: With Activities to Help You Be One Too!
If You’re a Kid Like Gavin: The True Story of a Young Trans Activist
No Truth Without Ruth: The Life of Ruth Bader Ginsburg a biography of Ruth Bader Ginsburg by Kathleen Krull
Jack
Jacob's New Dress
Jacob's Room to Choose
Julián Is a Mermaid
Julián at the Wedding
Freckleface Strawberry by Julianne Moore
Laverne Cox
Lgbt Discrimination
LGBTQ Human Rights Movement
LGBTQ+ Rights
Marley's Pride
Molly's Tuxedo
Morris Micklewhite and the Tangerine Dress
My Dad Thinks I'm a Boy?!
My Maddy
My Own Way: Celebrating Gender Freedom for Kids
My Princess Boy
My Rainbow
My Shadow is Pink
My Sister, Daisy
Not He or She, I'm Me
Not My Idea: A Book About Whiteness
Payden's Pronoun Party
Peanut Goes for the Gold
Phoenix Goes to School: A Story to Support Transgender and Gender Diverse Children
Phoenix Gets Greater
Pink, Blue, and You!: Questions for Kids about Gender Stereotypes
RuPaul (Volume 61)
Sex Is a Funny Word: A Book about Bodies, Feelings, and YOU
She's My Dad!: A Story for Children Who Have a Transgender Parent or Relative
Sparkle Boy
Sylvia and Marsha Start a Revolution!
The Every Body Book: The LGBTQ+ Inclusive Guide for Kids about Sex, Gender, Bodies, and Families
The Antiracist Kid: A Book About Identity, Justice, and Activism
'Twas the Night Before Pride
Were I Not a Girl: The Inspiring and True Story of Dr. James Barry
What Are Your Words?: A Book About Pronouns
What Does It Mean to Defund the Police?
What Is Anti-Racism?
What Is White Privilege?
What Riley Wore
What's Your Name?
What's Gender Identity?
When Aidan Became A Brother
Who Are You?: The Kid's Guide to Gender Identity
What Is the Black Lives Matter Movement?
Something Happened in Our Town: A Child's Story about Racial Injustice
If You're a Drag Queen and You Know It
Middle Grades and YA books
50 Queers Who Changed the World: A Celebration of LGBTQ+ Icons
"You Can Tell Just By Looking": And 20 Other Myths about LGBT Life and People by Michael Bronski
19 Love Songs
A Girl's Guide to Joining the Resistance: A Feminist Handbook on Fighting for Good by Emma Rose Gray
A Million Quiet Revolutions by Robin Gow
A Queer History of the United States for Young People
A Quick & Easy Guide to They/Them Pronouns
A Smart Girl's Guide: Race and Inclusion: Standing up to racism and building a better world by Deanna Singh (American Girl)
Ab(solutely) Normal: Short Stories That Smash Mental Health Stereotypes by Nora Shalaway Carpenter
ABCs of LGBT+ Guided Journal: A Companion Guide to Ash Hardell’s The ABC’s of LBGT
Across a Field of Starlight by Blue Delliquanti
Act Cool: A Compelling Story of Transgender Identity, Family Struggles, and Finding Yourself by Tobly McSmith
Afterglow by Phil Stamper
Airlock by Tash McAdam
Alex As Well by Alyssa Brugman
Alice Austen Lived Here by Alex Gino
All Boys Aren't Blue
All Kinds of Other by James Sie
All Out: The No-Longer-Secret Stories of Queer Teens throughout the Ages by Saundra Mitchell
Allies: Real Talk About Showing Up, Screwing Up, And Trying Again by Shakirah Bourne
Almost Perfect
Always the Almost by Edward Underhill
Ana on the Edge
And She Was by Jessica Verdi
Ander & Santi Were Here by Jonny Garza Villa
Anything But Fine by Tobias Madden
Are You LGBTQ? by Jeanne Nagle
Baby Drag Queen by C.A. Tanaka
Be Gay Do Comics
Beast by Brie Spangler
Galaxy: The Prettiest Star
Gay & Lesbian History for Kids: The Century-Long Struggle for LGBT Rights, with 21 Activities
Gay Characters in Theater, Movies, and Television: New Roles, New Attitudes
Gender Dysphoria
Gender Identity by Nicki Peter Petrikowski
LGBTQ Human Rights Movement
The LGBTQ + History Book: Big Ideas Simply Explained
Lumberjanes series
Hidden Figures: The True Story of Four Black Women and the Space Race
The World in Flames: A Black Boyhood in a White Supremacist Doomsday Cult by Jerald Walker
Rise Up and Sing!: Power, Protest, and Activism in Music
The Heartstopper series by Alice Oseman
Are you ready for this? The initial list was made by keyword search:
BANNED
Gender, "Critical Race Theory," "DEI" (diversity months like Black History Month, Women's History Month, AAPI Month, Indigenous History Month, etc.)
Buzzwords include “disability,” “women,” “female,” “minority,” “historically,” “underrepresented,” or “socioeconomic.”
including women in STEM, Black history, women's history, anything with a whiff of racism, sexism, antisemitism and anything that goes against their White, Christian, Nationalist agenda.
Full memo
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iKxU...
Picture Books
A is for Activist
All Bodies are Wonderful: Use Science to Celebrate Everyone's Body!
10,000 Dresses
#Blacklivesmatter: Protesting Racism: Protesting Racism by Rachael L. Thomas
#Pride: Championing LGBTQ Rights: Championing LGBTQ Rights by Rebecca Felix
A Child's Introduction to Pride: The Inspirational History and Culture of the LGBTQIA+ Community
All You Need Is Love: Celebrating Families of All Shapes and Sizes
Are You a Boy or Are You a Girl?
Atrocities in Action
Auntie Uncle: Drag Queen Hero
Be Your True Self
Calvin
Door by Door: How Sarah McBride Became America's First Openly Transgender Senator
Equality & Diversity
Equality, Social Justice, and Our Future
From the Stars in the Sky to the Fish in the Sea
A House for Everyone: A Story to Help Children Learn about Gender Identity and Gender Expression
I Am Jazz
I Am an Antiracist Superhero: With Activities to Help You Be One Too!
If You’re a Kid Like Gavin: The True Story of a Young Trans Activist
No Truth Without Ruth: The Life of Ruth Bader Ginsburg a biography of Ruth Bader Ginsburg by Kathleen Krull
Jack
Jacob's New Dress
Jacob's Room to Choose
Julián Is a Mermaid
Julián at the Wedding
Freckleface Strawberry by Julianne Moore
Laverne Cox
Lgbt Discrimination
LGBTQ Human Rights Movement
LGBTQ+ Rights
Marley's Pride
Molly's Tuxedo
Morris Micklewhite and the Tangerine Dress
My Dad Thinks I'm a Boy?!
My Maddy
My Own Way: Celebrating Gender Freedom for Kids
My Princess Boy
My Rainbow
My Shadow is Pink
My Sister, Daisy
Not He or She, I'm Me
Not My Idea: A Book About Whiteness
Payden's Pronoun Party
Peanut Goes for the Gold
Phoenix Goes to School: A Story to Support Transgender and Gender Diverse Children
Phoenix Gets Greater
Pink, Blue, and You!: Questions for Kids about Gender Stereotypes
RuPaul (Volume 61)
Sex Is a Funny Word: A Book about Bodies, Feelings, and YOU
She's My Dad!: A Story for Children Who Have a Transgender Parent or Relative
Sparkle Boy
Sylvia and Marsha Start a Revolution!
The Every Body Book: The LGBTQ+ Inclusive Guide for Kids about Sex, Gender, Bodies, and Families
The Antiracist Kid: A Book About Identity, Justice, and Activism
'Twas the Night Before Pride
Were I Not a Girl: The Inspiring and True Story of Dr. James Barry
What Are Your Words?: A Book About Pronouns
What Does It Mean to Defund the Police?
What Is Anti-Racism?
What Is White Privilege?
What Riley Wore
What's Your Name?
What's Gender Identity?
When Aidan Became A Brother
Who Are You?: The Kid's Guide to Gender Identity
What Is the Black Lives Matter Movement?
Something Happened in Our Town: A Child's Story about Racial Injustice
If You're a Drag Queen and You Know It
Middle Grades and YA books
50 Queers Who Changed the World: A Celebration of LGBTQ+ Icons
"You Can Tell Just By Looking": And 20 Other Myths about LGBT Life and People by Michael Bronski
19 Love Songs
A Girl's Guide to Joining the Resistance: A Feminist Handbook on Fighting for Good by Emma Rose Gray
A Million Quiet Revolutions by Robin Gow
A Queer History of the United States for Young People
A Quick & Easy Guide to They/Them Pronouns
A Smart Girl's Guide: Race and Inclusion: Standing up to racism and building a better world by Deanna Singh (American Girl)
Ab(solutely) Normal: Short Stories That Smash Mental Health Stereotypes by Nora Shalaway Carpenter
ABCs of LGBT+ Guided Journal: A Companion Guide to Ash Hardell’s The ABC’s of LBGT
Across a Field of Starlight by Blue Delliquanti
Act Cool: A Compelling Story of Transgender Identity, Family Struggles, and Finding Yourself by Tobly McSmith
Afterglow by Phil Stamper
Airlock by Tash McAdam
Alex As Well by Alyssa Brugman
Alice Austen Lived Here by Alex Gino
All Boys Aren't Blue
All Kinds of Other by James Sie
All Out: The No-Longer-Secret Stories of Queer Teens throughout the Ages by Saundra Mitchell
Allies: Real Talk About Showing Up, Screwing Up, And Trying Again by Shakirah Bourne
Almost Perfect
Always the Almost by Edward Underhill
Ana on the Edge
And She Was by Jessica Verdi
Ander & Santi Were Here by Jonny Garza Villa
Anything But Fine by Tobias Madden
Are You LGBTQ? by Jeanne Nagle
Baby Drag Queen by C.A. Tanaka
Be Gay Do Comics
Beast by Brie Spangler
Galaxy: The Prettiest Star
Gay & Lesbian History for Kids: The Century-Long Struggle for LGBT Rights, with 21 Activities
Gay Characters in Theater, Movies, and Television: New Roles, New Attitudes
Gender Dysphoria
Gender Identity by Nicki Peter Petrikowski
LGBTQ Human Rights Movement
The LGBTQ + History Book: Big Ideas Simply Explained
Lumberjanes series
Hidden Figures: The True Story of Four Black Women and the Space Race
The World in Flames: A Black Boyhood in a White Supremacist Doomsday Cult by Jerald Walker
Rise Up and Sing!: Power, Protest, and Activism in Music
The Heartstopper series by Alice Oseman
The Navy list is even worse because it's for ADULTS!
Full list and story
https://pen.org/press-release/pen-ame...
Official list
https://media.defense.gov/2025/Apr/04...
According to a list of the 21 books ultimately pulled from the shelves that was reviewed by Military.com, the titles all deal with affirmative action programs, diversity and discrimination, and the experiences of transgender people.
...
The Naval Academy began its review in March after top officials in the Pentagon ordered the academic institution to do so.
Leaders at the school didn't think they needed to remove any books since President Donald Trump's January executive order banning materials on diversity applied to kindergarten through 12th-grade schools that receive federal funding -- not colleges.
That effort has yielded a list of 596 banned titles at Defense Department schools around the world.
The Naval Academy's initial search had yielded a list of about 900 books that was eventually winnowed down to the 381 titles that were released in April by the Navy.
...
In May, the Pentagon created a temporary Academic Libraries Committee "consisting of knowledgeable leaders, educators and library professionals" from across the Defense Department who would work to help identify books for censorship and then help decide what to do with them once they were slated for a ban.
The official that spoke with Military.com to confirm details of this story said the ultimate fate of the 21 books identified by the academy was with this committee.
Military.com reached out to Pentagon officials with questions about the fate of the books removed by the Naval Academy, as well as questions about how many titles were removed from the other service academies, but did not receive a reply in time for publication.
According to the Pentagon's policy, all the military's war colleges and service academies were to "promptly" identify books on about 20 topics and set them aside by May 2.
Full list and story
https://pen.org/press-release/pen-ame...
Official list
https://media.defense.gov/2025/Apr/04...
According to a list of the 21 books ultimately pulled from the shelves that was reviewed by Military.com, the titles all deal with affirmative action programs, diversity and discrimination, and the experiences of transgender people.
...
The Naval Academy began its review in March after top officials in the Pentagon ordered the academic institution to do so.
Leaders at the school didn't think they needed to remove any books since President Donald Trump's January executive order banning materials on diversity applied to kindergarten through 12th-grade schools that receive federal funding -- not colleges.
That effort has yielded a list of 596 banned titles at Defense Department schools around the world.
The Naval Academy's initial search had yielded a list of about 900 books that was eventually winnowed down to the 381 titles that were released in April by the Navy.
...
In May, the Pentagon created a temporary Academic Libraries Committee "consisting of knowledgeable leaders, educators and library professionals" from across the Defense Department who would work to help identify books for censorship and then help decide what to do with them once they were slated for a ban.
The official that spoke with Military.com to confirm details of this story said the ultimate fate of the 21 books identified by the academy was with this committee.
Military.com reached out to Pentagon officials with questions about the fate of the books removed by the Naval Academy, as well as questions about how many titles were removed from the other service academies, but did not receive a reply in time for publication.
According to the Pentagon's policy, all the military's war colleges and service academies were to "promptly" identify books on about 20 topics and set them aside by May 2.
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Kelly (Maybedog), Minister of Illicit Reading
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I don't think we need to enter either list at this point. I don't think these are specific enough or that the book itself was banned, just it's keywords. I don't want to guess at reasons, either.
We can't add every book that's ever been banned unless someone wants to take that on. So let's not overwhelm ourselves at this point. I'd rather people start adding the PEN America list which I think is more critical.
That said, it's not my bookshelf, it's ours. As long as things really are banned/challenged or about banned books, it can be on the shelf, it's up to you. Just please create a shelf that identifies that it was on that list.
We can't add every book that's ever been banned unless someone wants to take that on. So let's not overwhelm ourselves at this point. I'd rather people start adding the PEN America list which I think is more critical.
That said, it's not my bookshelf, it's ours. As long as things really are banned/challenged or about banned books, it can be on the shelf, it's up to you. Just please create a shelf that identifies that it was on that list.
I want to remind/let folks know, that when you add books to the shelves, mark them as unread. I move them to read when the group has read them.
Audrey would love some help with compiling the list and we still need folks to enter the stuff recommended to the shelves. Some people have volunteered in the past. Anyone interested?
Audrey would love some help with compiling the list and we still need folks to enter the stuff recommended to the shelves. Some people have volunteered in the past. Anyone interested?
I might have time to help with the list over the weekend. I'm still trying to catch up on everything after a vacation.
A vacation is great until the end of it when it's harder than when it began because of all the make-up work.
From my reading of the DoD schools' stories, those books have been pulled off of shelves at all DoD schools. They have been returned to the shelves of the dozen or so schools that sued, but as of today, they are not available to students at any schools that were not a party to the lawsuit. At this point, I guess they're still technically challenged, pending review?
Jennifer W wrote: "At this point, I guess they're still technically challenged, pending review?
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Partial ban?
Freckleface Strawberry was on the initial list until the media got ahold of the news and Julianne Moore spoke out. I think the media needs to keep shaming the DooD and parents and students need to push back. Those who want to speak up fear reprisals though.
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Partial ban?
Freckleface Strawberry was on the initial list until the media got ahold of the news and Julianne Moore spoke out. I think the media needs to keep shaming the DooD and parents and students need to push back. Those who want to speak up fear reprisals though.
Aloha everyone! Kelly shared that there I've been compiling the banned books the group has shared since this thread's inception, and some here would love to help...yay!!!Please message me or Kelly for access. It's on google sheets (similar to MS Excel), and currently captures only titles mentioned (adding every single title listed in other sources defeats this thread's purpose, which is to gather titles the group -as in the group on this thread- WANTS TO READ NEXT. I assume together, since other threads provide excellent starting points for personal reading journeys. Moderators, I want you all to have access if only to be familiar with the methodology...so drop me a message. Mahalo!
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