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Nov 26, 2015 12:45PM

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The exceptions:
1. If I start a series in paper I have to finish in paper. However, the same goes for e-books.
2. I've read or am reading a collection worthy series. In that case I don't mind having both electronic and physical copies.
3. Saving for later generations. My husband and I started the Potter series, in paperback, when our babies were too young to read them. We went back and repurchased the first two in hardcover, then preorder the rest, all in anticipation of our children reading them as well. I was thrilled when the twins finally started reading them.

The E format...I suspect that these books may have a better chance of fading away than the books people can see on a shelf and touch.
I don't know. E books can be altered at the touch of a key and vanish with the loss of battery power or an EMP. Guess time will tell.
Ebooks will never replace printed books, but they have some small advantages. For example, you don't have to wait for a book to be delivered to you or even shipped from overseas. The prices are another aspect, but while some books I've bought did cost only about 25% of the print version or sometimes even less than 99 cent, other books where only about two bucks cheaper than the printed versions, so this might not be a general argument.
On the other side, you have disadvantages, of course. For example, you can't lend or borrow Kindle books the way you could do it with a printed book. In the United States it seems to be possible to lend Kindle books, but that's still experimental and restricted, and book borrowing is in my opinion an essential part of the whole reading experience.
On the other side, you have disadvantages, of course. For example, you can't lend or borrow Kindle books the way you could do it with a printed book. In the United States it seems to be possible to lend Kindle books, but that's still experimental and restricted, and book borrowing is in my opinion an essential part of the whole reading experience.

Right now I'm reading my trade paperback omnibus edition of The Lord of the Rings, and I wish that I had it on my Kindle. (I do have an ebook edition, but it is epub, and I have been having computer issues so I can't convert it to read on my Kindle, since I got rid of my Nook.) This freaking book weighs a ton, and is SUCH a pain to hold. My kindle is lightweight, doesn't strain my wrist and hands, has an internal light, and won't break a toe if I drop it. Plus I can have lots and lots and lots of books on that one little device.
To me, owning a book means owning it in physical form. I don't "own" ebooks (and Amazon's ebook TOS makes it clear that Kindle owners "use" their books, not own them), I just prefer to read in ebook form. If I read an ebook and love it, then I will buy a physical copy of the book. If I own a physical copy of the book and can find an ebook edition, then I would rather read that.
Becky wrote: "I don't "own" ebooks (and Amazon's ebook TOS makes it clear that Kindle owners "use" their books, not own them)"
Yes, that's another important point about(commercial)Ebooks. The Kindle app for personal computers also downloads and saves books to the computer hard drive. I guess it should be possible to redownload them automatically if the pc memory is lost, since you cannot buy the same book a second time anyway, but it could get really tricky if the book in questions has been deleted from Kindle's range of goods in the meantime.
Yes, that's another important point about(commercial)Ebooks. The Kindle app for personal computers also downloads and saves books to the computer hard drive. I guess it should be possible to redownload them automatically if the pc memory is lost, since you cannot buy the same book a second time anyway, but it could get really tricky if the book in questions has been deleted from Kindle's range of goods in the meantime.

content, even if the book is no longer available through Amazon for purchase.
I've redownloaded quite a few books that have otherwise disappeared.
Nyssa wrote: "Actually your copy never goes away. You can always look it up on your Amazon account under Digital
content, even if the book is no longer available through Amazon for purchase.
I've redownloaded quite a few books that have otherwise disappeared. "
Thanks, that's quite reassuring. I'm rather new to Kindle.
content, even if the book is no longer available through Amazon for purchase.
I've redownloaded quite a few books that have otherwise disappeared. "
Thanks, that's quite reassuring. I'm rather new to Kindle.

content, even if the book is no longer available through Amazon for purchase.
I've ..."
You're very welcome.
Whether you're redownloading to your device, wanting to save a copy to your machine, or send a book to another device attached to your account you:
1. Hover over "Your Account" which is right beneath the "Hello" greeting on the upper right side.
2. Click on "Manage Your Content and Devices" which is about half way down the list of options.
3. Scroll to or search for the book in question.
4. Click on the ellipses (...) button to the left of the title.
5. Choose "Deliver" to send it to a device or "Download and transfer via USB" to keep a copy on your machine, and eventually side load it onto your Kindle.
I suggest the program Calibre for sideloading, but I know there are other programs out there as well.
I hope you enjoy your Kindle as much as I enjoy mine. I loved my K3 (aka Kindle Keyboard) and I love my Paperwhite even more.

Nyssa wrote: "I hope you enjoy your Kindle as much as I enjoy mine. I loved my K3 (aka Kindle Keyboard) and I love my Paperwhite even more"
Thanks. I don't own a physical Kindle reader yet, but use the pc app instead. I wonder if I should get myself one, however. Somehow I think Ebooks are perfect for reading at home, while I prefer hardcover and paperbacks for outdoors, but a Kindle reader might help me to reduce my electricity bill a bit, I guess.
Thanks. I don't own a physical Kindle reader yet, but use the pc app instead. I wonder if I should get myself one, however. Somehow I think Ebooks are perfect for reading at home, while I prefer hardcover and paperbacks for outdoors, but a Kindle reader might help me to reduce my electricity bill a bit, I guess.


I have found the reading on paper just absorbs me more than reading on a screen. I don't really know why that is, but maybe if I had an e-ink reader it would be different.
I just got a new Fire for my birthday, though. I think I prefer my Nook, still, for reading books... but I wanted to get the Fire for reading comics, and that seems to work fairly well from the little I tested of it this morning.

My ratio of paper to electronic this year is 51/17 this year and 254/95 since I got my K3.
Lack of Overdrive support for Kindle in Canada library lending is the main reason I read way more paper. Yes I know I can work around that, but I'm lazy and not prone to want to do things that are ethically questionable to the authorities.

What she said!!

What a scam.



I know a lot of you prefer an Ebook format and that's cool. I'm not arguing that there is some virtue in preferring on format over another.
I just had a memory of going through shelves of old books at my grandparents house and wandering through musty used book stores. I simply asked if the fact that later generations may not have the shelves and shelves of old books might shorten the staying power of a given novel.
E books can vanish into the ether so to speak. New generations of Ereader may not get older books downloaded. There's no guarantee that Amazon or Audible will still be there with our purchased libraries 50 years or 75 years from now.
Anyway, not trying to convince anyone of one format's superiority, we'll have our favorites. Just how it may effect life span of books.

I understand your concerns about the "dangers" of e-books only, however, I don't see true readers/book lovers ever moving solely in that direction.
I also believe that those who do have an extensive electronic library either have or will find ways to protect and preserve them just like physical books/libraries.

What a scam."
You get to choose which option you want when you check out. I've opted out both times and I think it's worth the $15. They actually sell their Kindles for cheaper than the cost of making it so it makes sense that they have to make the money up somehow.
I have a combo of ebooks and paper books. I prefer to use ebooks for the unimportant stuff and save the paper ones for important stuff. The reason I chose to go electronic in the first place was to save all of those trees that are being mown down to create personal libraries. It's wasteful for something I'm going to read once.




I have several "collections", some of them have migrated to the attic. I hope when I "shuffle off this coil" someone who can enjoy them gets them and they don't just end up in a yard sale.


This of course does not include the military or "snarky" T-shirts.


I wear mostly Ts and jeans around the house and whatever...of course I also have a number of neck ties. Like I said I tend to collect. I got started buying ties and then needed one of each color I wore and a striped one of all the color combinations and so on.
If I actually had money I'd need a large place.
o_O


The other issue I have with ebooks are the way they can disappear into the stacks. I'm a FI,LO kind of reader and my bulk ebook purchases/freebies get lost in the ether.

Super happy to have found this, since my library doesn't carry a lot of manga, and I didn't want to have to buy every title I wanted to sample.
It's not all there, of course, but I already found Vol. 2 of a series I was reading, so it's all good.

Everything IS moving slower and I keep getting error pages.

Well, it had been running okay for too long, they had to mess with it.

Well, it had been running okay for too long, they had to mess with it."
^THIS

Nope, couldn't type it with a straight face."
lmao!


GOSH. Totally saved my eyes.
I'm sorta on the "don't care" boat now since I was able to do my own workaround.


^This
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